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[QUOTE=RiggoRules;220766]How did he ever get a contract from the Cowboys?

[A denial has been issued via D. Sanders, I think it is safe to add some levity][/QUOTE]
Jerry Jones wanted him.

Quote to Tom Friend (somewhat paraphrased)
"I want to win now, not in 2 or 3 years. If signing TO now in an attmept to win now is seen as desperate then I am desperate."

He forced TO on Bill Parcels and this has either totally blown up in their face or is in the process of doing so.

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Oh, and can we all just hold off on assuming T.O. is battling these serious depression issues until all the news is flushed out. Denials are flying left and right now.

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[quote=onlydarksets;220777]I was kidding - the sarcasm didn't translate well.[/quote]

Yah, I picked up on that a little too late. My bad.

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[QUOTE=EXoffender;220778]Unfortunately, the players union voted to save nutcases like him for being deactivated for the season. I would say his career is over but, you always have teams like SEA who'll employ the services of likes of Koren Robinson.[/QUOTE]
SEA got rid of him. Why you hatin' on them? You should be hatin' of the Pack for getting him not SEA.

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[quote=PSUSkinsFan21;220780]Oh, and can we all just hold off on assuming T.O. is battling these serious depression issues until all the news is flushed out. Denials are flying left and right now.[/quote]

NO time to hold off.........to busy empathizing

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Recently T.O. during a very recent interview expressed regret to Deon Sanders for the way he handled things in Philly. He basically said he would have approached things differently with Donovan and wished that things didn't get out of hand the way they did. It aired about two weeks ago.

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[quote=Hog1;220788]NO time to hold off.........to busy empathizing[/quote]

lol - who has time for facts?

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Did anyone watch the ESPN show on To's biography? He had a horrible childhood with his teammates making fun of his color and apperance... even spitting in his mouth while he was sleeping on the bus. Nobody should be judging him for what he is doing because he is clearly emtionally off kilter

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Whether he is emotionally off kilter or not, we shouldn't be judging him.

edit: unless it's Jeremy Shockey we're talking about.

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So does everyone who was picked on as a kid and everyone who had a bad childhood get a free pass to be a jerk as an adult? Do they get to behave and play by a different set of social standards? Maybe some people think so, but I'm definitely not one of them.


ps. this is a different issue than the alleged "suicide attempt" issue. I'm merely defending my stance that he's been a jerk for years. Obviously if he really did try to kill himself, I would agree that his life experiences could arguably contribute to that.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;220681]This is just a tragic story. I hope he recovers and gets help.[/QUOTE]


It truly is, and there's obviously something wrong up top with TO to render him that driven. While I've never been one of his fans as a result of his many negative antics he's still a human being worthy of human compassion. I truly hope none of us live a life deserving of some of the things I've read here. Please let none of the negatives be said of us. I'll continue to pray for the man, and hope he get's the help he seems to so desperately need.

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[quote=Longtimefan;220794]It truly is, and there's obviously something wrong up top with TO to render him that driven. While I've never been one of his fans as a result of his many negative antics he's still a human being worthy of human compassion. I truly hope none of us live a life deserving of some of the things I've read here. Please let none of the negatives be said of us. I'll continue to pray for the man, and hope he get's the help he seems to so desperately need.[/quote]


Well said

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[quote=PSUSkinsFan21;220793]So does everyone who was picked on as a kid and everyone who had a bad childhood get a free pass to be a jerk as an adult? Do they get to behave and play by a different set of social standards? Maybe some people think so, but I'm definitely not one of them.


ps. this is a different issue than the alleged "suicide attempt" issue. I'm merely defending my stance that he's been a jerk for years. Obviously if he really did try to kill himself, I would agree that his life experiences could arguably contribute to that.[/quote]

I hear you--you make good points. nobody gets a free pass to be a jerk ... some people should get cut more slack than others though.

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[QUOTE=Mc2guy;220770]For those of you who are unwilling or unable to show any empathy for a person battling with suicidal depression (if the reports are true), then I hope from the bottom of my heart that you never have to experience depression up close and personal. As someone who has seen depression and suicide in my family, I can tell you it is the most gut wrenching and painful thing you have ever even attempted to comprehend.

T.O. is an first class jerk, no if ands or buts, but to show no empathy for another human struggling like that is pretty low. To joke about it is reprehensible. Frankly, I am embarrased to be a member of this community right now.[/QUOTE]

1. Glad you caveated with the "if reports are true" because it's highly likely we're all getting worked into a tizzy over the 'ol rumor mill.

2. No one on this site is actually making fun of depression or people with depression, like your family members. It's simply a case of not giving him a "free pass" to be an ass. If Osama Bin Laden comes out and says he is depressed, do we forgive him immediately for 9/11 and give him a hug? (and you thought that the US Soldier - TO analogy was a stretch!?)

3. "Embarrased to be a member of this community"? C'mon drama queen - take a deep breath and float back down to reality, homes.

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[quote=Ade Jimoh Fan Club;220801]1. Glad you caveated with the "if reports are true" because it's highly likely we're all getting worked into a tizzy over the 'ol rumor mill.

2. No one on this site is actually making fun of depression or people with depression, like your family members. It's simply a case of not giving him a "free pass" to be an ass. If Osama Bin Laden comes out and says he is depressed, do we forgive him immediately for 9/11 and give him a hug? (and you thought that the US Soldier - TO analogy was a stretch!?)

3. "Embarrased to be a member of this community"? C'mon drama queen - take a deep breath and float back down to reality, homes.[/quote]

Good stuff, Ade. Very balanced.

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My guess is that this is all a big misunderstanding. That TO only intended to take two pain killers, miscounted and took 35.

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Parcells: I don't know! I'm old I tell you

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[QUOTE=61cad;220804]My guess is that this is all a big misunderstanding. That TO only intended to take two pain killers, miscounted and took 35.[/QUOTE]


Be fair now - he had a rough childhood so it's not his fault that he can't count.

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[quote=61cad;220804]My guess is that this is all a big misunderstanding. That TO only intended to take two pain killers, miscounted and took 35.[/quote]

That's hilarious because I know that argument will be reported sometime in the near future!

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[quote=12thMan;220803]Good stuff, Ade. Very balanced.[/quote]

Yep! I agree!

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;220762]One thing we can say about him is he's never had off the field issues, until now. He's never been locked up, picked up for DWI, caught with hookers and coke in a hotel room, etc.

He might be a pain in the ass in the locker room, and even that's debateable to an extent. Alot of his ex-teammates say he wasn't a problem. You also have to consider how some of his antics are blown way out of proportion by the media.

Hate the player, but I don't see any reason to hate the man.[/QUOTE]

Cheers to that Matty!

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Honestly, I feel sorry for the guy. Yesterday I was hating life but today I'm greatful to be alive. Thanks T.O., you've given me a new lease on life.

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I just hope after T.O. denies trying to kill himself at his press conference we can all stop feeling sorry for this turd and get back to loathing him and his childish antics again like in the good old days.

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[quote=Mattyk72;220762]One thing we can say about him is he's never had off the field issues, until now. He's never been locked up, picked up for DWI, caught with hookers and coke in a hotel room, etc.

He might be a pain in the ass in the locker room, and even that's debateable to an extent. Alot of his ex-teammates say he wasn't a problem. You also have to consider how some of his antics are blown way out of proportion by the media.

Hate the player, but I don't see any reason to hate the man.[/quote]

[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Doesn’t the man make the player?[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Which came first the chicken or the egg?[/SIZE][/FONT]

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While TO throughout his career may have posted some ideals and attitudes that inflame some of us, do we have to think of him as less an individual?
There may be quite a few here who do not quite understand the power of depression. In November 1997 when I was diagnosed with stage four Squamous Cell Carcinoma (head and neck) primary tumor located at the base of my tongue, requiring external beam radiation therapy, Chemotherapy, as well as surgery, I know a little about depression. I was on depression medication for nine months, and still take one hundred sixty milg's of Oxycontin daily just to survive the pain. Fortunately, I never had the desire to take my own life, depression can be a troubling, and a menaceing ordeal, and for those who think slight of it, I trust you never have to experience it.
You will never know, or understand it's complexities until you've been there, and done it.
Didn't mean to bore you with my life's transgressions, but try to understand what we're talking about here.

ESPN Report: Terrell Owens DOES NOT attempt suicide
 

Per the news conference (i.e., directly from TO's mouth), he claims he didn't try to commit suicide. He said the other 30 pills are in a drawer somewhere, and that his ladyfriend thought he took them since they weren't in the bottle.

So, can we all agree he sucks now?

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[QUOTE=Longtimefan;220835]You will never know, or understand it's complexities until you've been there, and done it.
Didn't mean to bore you with my life's transgressions, but try to understand what we're talking about here.[/QUOTE]

Now, you're making this hard. I can't ever understand, but I should try to understand? My head hurts.

Seriously, I'll reiterate that no one is belittling the seriousness of depression, or questioning the hurdles you have gone through. Once I hear from a member of the medical profession that TO is not well, I will jump to your camp... But since you choose to assume that he's clinically depressed, I reserve the right to assume that he's just a crazy F*cktard.

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[quote=Ade Jimoh Fan Club;220801]1. Glad you caveated with the "if reports are true" because it's highly likely we're all getting worked into a tizzy over the 'ol rumor mill.

2. No one on this site is actually making fun of depression or people with depression, like your family members. It's simply a case of not giving him a "free pass" to be an ass. If Osama Bin Laden comes out and says he is depressed, do we forgive him immediately for 9/11 and give him a hug? (and you thought that the US Soldier - TO analogy was a stretch!?)

3. "Embarrased to be a member of this community"? C'mon drama queen - take a deep breath and float back down to reality, homes.[/quote]


Free pass to be an ass is one thing, to say very ignorant things about someone who may have tried to commit suicide is another. An to compare BinLaden to TO in the same sentence is a joke. I can't believe that is even put in the same breath. I dont think anyones reaction to people saying because he is an ass or a jerk (as seen in interviews) is being drama queens. Some people have been personally effected by suicide or attempted suicide, depression. To try and justify the ridiculous comments by some people out here is crazy. We are all human beings. TO is person, dont even try to compare him with a terrorist for crying out load. that is just plain stupid.

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[QUOTE=Ade Jimoh Fan Club;220801] If Osama Bin Laden comes out and says he is depressed, do we forgive him immediately for 9/11 and give him a hug? (and you thought that the US Soldier - TO analogy was a stretch!?)
[/QUOTE]

that all depends on who you ask... if you could ask Ghandi or Martin Luther King Jr. they would say that you have to forgive all no matter what crime or act they committed... but I don't see how you could compare osama bin laden and TO in any way

Re: ESPN Report: Terrell Owens DOES NOT attempt suicide
 

Crap - we're no longer talking about TO, are we?

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T.O. denies attempting suicide. I personally don't think today is T.O.'s fault. I blame the media for running with a story they truely didnt know much about. I do blame T.O. for being T.O. making his life a constant circus, but I blame this on the media.

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[quote=onlydarksets;220838]Per the news conference (i.e., directly from TO's mouth), he claims he didn't try to commit suicide. He said the other 30 pills are in a drawer somewhere, and that his ladyfriend thought he took them since they weren't in the bottle.

So, can we all agree he sucks now?[/quote]

Agreed. He sucked before and during this circus, and he still sucks today.

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so his publicist woke up with him? she's cute.

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I gotta say though, his publicist did nothing for his cause. I could buy everything Terrell said, but then she gets up there and looks like a blatant liar. Somehow we're supposed to believe the police lied about what she said to them? Bullshit. If I had to put money on what really happened?: I'd say she absolutely told the police he was depressed. Whether he really is or not, she struck me as the type that would completely over-react to the situation. And then she has the audacity to say the media is taking advantage of T.O. by reporting this as an attempted suicide attempt? Hey honey, maybe the media wouldn't have reported it this way if you didn't tell the police he was depressed. If anyone is to blame for this whole fiasco, I blame her. Nice job "publicist".

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Did you hear Mike Vanderjagt tried to committ suicide also? He had the rope tied around his neck, stood up on the chair and when he went to kick the chair, HE MISSED !!!!!!

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Good I can go back to focusing on the fact that he is a douchebag now.

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[QUOTE=Warpath;220843]T.O. denies attempting suicide. I personally don't think today is T.O.'s fault. I blame the media for running with a story they truely didnt know much about. I do blame T.O. for being T.O. making his life a constant circus, but I blame this on the media.[/QUOTE]


Well, honestly....

If the media has a police report that states he tried to commit suicide; they are CRAZY not to run with it. If it was all word of mouth I'd agree with you. But it was a police report, which is a government document that says that he attempted suicide. I dont think you'd find a single reporter on earth that wouldnt run with that.

Its hard to say who's to blame from today, or what actually went down last night.

Right now, the publisist I would say is looking the worst, but who the fuck knows what really happened, and I dont think we will know.

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[QUOTE=Warpath;220843]T.O. denies attempting suicide. I personally don't think today is T.O.'s fault. I blame the media for running with a story they truely didnt know much about. I do blame T.O. for being T.O. making his life a constant circus, but I blame this on the media.[/QUOTE]


I take that back. I blame his publicist.

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[quote=Warpath;220843]T.O. denies attempting suicide. I personally don't think today is T.O.'s fault. I blame the media for running with a story they truely didnt know much about. I do blame T.O. for being T.O. making his life a constant circus, but I blame this on the media.[/quote]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Publicity stunt. Now he is the center of attention...[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]

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Good, Now I have a clear conscience for not being broken hearted for him! He will be needing a new publicist