Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[QUOTE=GhettoDogAllStars;291633]Hey, don't they have those places in Japan where you can smash an entire room to pieces? [/QUOTE]

Only if you're Godzilla.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[quote=JDALY27;291670][B]Briggs and Fletcher are still learning how to knock somebody in the mouth? Think they know how to do that already dude.[/B]

[B]Any rookie we draft at # 6 won't need to learn our system or will come in with instant chemistry?? [/B][/quote]


Man please, this is the same sh*t we were talking about last year.
In fact, every year. I'm weary with this team bringing in the 'missing piece.'

Same damn discussion, different dress.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

I am going to echo what most have you have been saying on this thread. I don't like the move at all. We don't need more linebackers right now, and we definely don't need to wrap up more of our precious cap space in linebackers.
This move would not help our main issue with our defense our Dline. If we pull the string on this move we are idiots, and the only way I would even think about this move is if we get all of the Bears first day picks. That's it anything else would be a complete rip off to us and it would show how much we haven't learned the past few years.

Any of you Capologists know exactly how much we are currently paying linebackers right now.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[quote=freddyg12;291655]I'm with ya, I don't think on paper this is a bad deal, in fact if we hadn't drafted Rocky it would be a great deal for us. I think everyone's getting all upset over this based on the assumption that Rocky WILL be our starter at wlb. I hope he's ready to be, but as someone said maybe he's a bust, or just hasn't convinced the coaches yet. maybe they see him as a 3rd down LB or to spell both LB spots in some packages?

The other concern is the $. What's the difference between paying the #6 pick & Briggs? Both will get a hefty bonus, but Briggs is a proven commodity.

At #31 we can get a good DE, one that will start. I have reservations about the deal from a team chemistry standpoint more than a talent/value standpoint. As JoeRedskin said, a pro bowl LB & a 1st rnd. pick for a high 1st pick is a good deal. There's more certainty that Briggs will be a top player than the #6 will be. See the recent history of 1st round D-line picks if you disagree.[/quote]

I can't help but agree, even though I would have a tough time giving up no. 6 and probably wouldn't without a gun to my head. There is more than an element of truth in the notion that there will still be a top DL on the board at No. 31. My guess is that the skins think they'll have a great shot at Anthony Spencer, who is almost as fast as Adams and had a spectacular senior year. Even if they miss Spencer, there will still be a great prospect and definate upgrade at DE or DL at No.31. Do the math.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[quote=Beemnseven;291671]Let's say Smootsmack's theory on Marcus Washington is right, and he's got a nagging problem that bothers the coaches to the point that they need his replacement right away.

Here's what bothers me: It yet again demonstrates this front office's mental block towards the defensive line. Certainly the same argument could be made with regard to Joe Salave'a. He was nicked up all last year, couldn't hold up against the run, and the statistics against the run prove it. But why isn't there the same type of urgency to plan for his replacement? Here we were in prime position at #6 to get an impact player at his position but now, if these reports are true, they're willing to plummet to #31 where it's certain no defensive lineman will be available with any value.

Didn't Joe Gibbs understand how important it was to have a defensive line made up with the likes of Dave Butz, Daryl Grant, Dexter Manley and Charles Mann? What has happened that has taken his focus away from such a vital element to a strong defense?[/quote]

We could line you up at Defensive End and with Lance Briggs on your side he makes every play.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[QUOTE=JDALY27;291678]We could line you up at Defensive End and with Lance Briggs on your side he makes every play.[/QUOTE]


Maybe -- but 5-7 yards later? That's the point. All the superstars at linebacker won't matter when they have to make the tackle after a big gain and nobody can stop them at the line of scrimmage.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

I'm sure most wouldn't think this that big a problem if someone with the title "General Manager" in front of it was behind the trade from end. My guess is that the majority of the people who don't like the trade just don't like it because they're programmed to not like the move.

Personally, I don't hate the move but we can do better I think. By the way, hearing some rumbling about Justin Harrell and Charles Johnson. Two guys who could be there at #31

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

The kicker in this deal is what we would do at #31. Can we still pick up a quality DT or DE? If so this might not be a bad deal, but again it all depends on what's there at #31.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

The Skins don't need another LB. They need a every down defensive end. This is a very deep draft. It might be best for the Skins to trade down and get additional picks. The defensive end that they need will be available in the middle of the first round.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[quote=Mattyk72;291654]After sleeping on this the deal as proposed right now doesn't seem that bad to me. Would I want them to do it? No. But remember (as some have already pointed out) the price tag of a franchise player is two first rounders. In this scenario the Skins still keep a 1st rounder and get a franchise quality player. Can anyone deny what a great LB corps this would be with Washington, Fletcher, and Briggs... with Marshall and McIntosh coming off the bench?!

I think the Skins would actually be coming out ahead on this deal if they were to do it, that being said I'm not in favor of it.[/quote]

I'm scared because I'm about to argue fervently against The Ego. But here goes nothing...

Just because a guy is labeled a franchise player, is he automatically worth 2 first round picks? That's what the CBA says a franchise player is worth in a trade, but that doesn't mean teams are willing to pay that.

If Lance Briggs didn't have the franchise tag, would you give this year's first rounder and next year's first rounder for him? I'd hope not. The reason? He's not worth that much, no matter what tag he has on him!

We're not coming out ahead of anything. We'd get a really good LB and a pick that can't possibly land us an impact DT. We don't need 1 good LB. We need an impact DT, a young G to groom (don't forget, we're currently planning on forcing a career-long T who is built like a T to switch to G), an athletic S to play alongside Taylor, and some would say a young DE because we're getting old at that spot.

This trade does not fit our needs, it doesn't solve our problems, and it perpetuates the players' discontent with our front office's willingness to pay outside talent rather than pay to keep their own. We need to trade the 6th pick for more picks, not Lance Briggs and a pick that can't solve our biggest need: DT.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[quote=12thMan;291675]Man please, this is the same sh*t we were talking about last year.
In fact, every year. I'm weary with this team bringing in the 'missing piece.'

Same damn discussion, different dress.[/quote]

You may have been talking like that about AA not me.

Briggs is the real deal.

# 6 pick knows our system and has instant chemistry? What's the answer.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[B]BeemNSeven [/B]you have to remember that Joe Gibbs never controlled the defensive side of the football. So now that he is old he has forgotten all about those great Dlines of the 80's and how much they won him SBs and not his great offense of smashing you in the mouth all day, then when you least expect it drop a bomb on you.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[QUOTE=Schneed10;291684]I'm scared because I'm about to argue fervently against The Ego. But here goes nothing....[/QUOTE]

The "10" in Schneed10 stands for the number of weeks The Ego is about to ban you for!

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

When did LB become the skins need? We need DL & OG. The skins would be trading 1000 points according to the chart in dropping to 31...that is the equivilent of a mid 1st round pick. Then you have to give him a record contract to make him happy. If the Redskins #1 need was LB this trade would make sense...as it is now it's assinine.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[quote=SmootSmack;291689]The "10" in Schneed10 stands for the number of weeks The Ego is about to ban you for![/quote]

LOL. Or will he go with 72 weeks, as in Mattyk72?

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[quote=Schneed10;291684].

[B]This trade does not fit our needs, it doesn't solve our problems, and it perpetuates the players' discontent with our front office's willingness to pay outside talent rather than pay to keep their own.[/B] We need to trade the 6th pick for more picks, not Lance Briggs and a pick that can't solve our biggest need: DT.[/quote]

I would have to disagree with on making the players in our locker room discontent with our FO. This move would not really be stepping on anyones toes or paying someone new instead of paying one of our own guys. We paid our own guys this year and didn't pay the right ones. As for not addressing our biggest need I agree with you.

This also kills any deal that would bring in Dre Bly, thus leaving us with an older and more fragile srpings to deal with next year.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

bad move... and I don't like him. We don't need some dude who whines like a baby when he doesn't get what he wants.. NO!

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

With any deal you make, whether for players or in business, you have to look at the opportunity cost, or said differently, what opportunity we're giving up to make this deal.

To me, we currently have the opportunity to either:
1) Select Amobi Okoye at 6th overall and get the beast DT that we need eat up blocks, allowing our LBs to flow to the ball, and allowing our DEs more space to rush the passer.
2) Trade #6 for multiple picks, such as a high 1st (still allowing us to get an impact DL player) and a 2nd. Which essentially means we'd be giving up a chance to draft a 2nd rounder who could play G or S for us. There is evidence that Denver is willing to make a deal. And if Adrian Peterson falls to us, there's a real possibility we could end up with a massive package being proposed to us.

In this deal, we get Briggs. But we give up ANY possibility at getting a huge offer for #6 should Quinn or Peterson drop to us. We give up the ability to fix our horrible DT spot opposite Griffin (please, let's dismiss the notion that Golston will ever be effective stopping the run at 290 pounds). We also give up more cap space because Briggs will be more expensive than the #6 pick. And we give up on the opportunity to let Rocky McIntosh develop into a serious player, because we'll have 3 LBs in front of him, plus Marshall vying for time as well.

Just look at the cost-benefit picture here. It doesn't add up.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[quote=SmootSmack;291689]The "10" in Schneed10 stands for the number of weeks The Ego is about to ban you for![/quote]

Glad I didn't post it then.

Re: Nfl Network On Briggs And Skins
 

[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;291457]If true, we would be getting bent over.[/quote]

But we like getting bent over.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

for the life of me I can't understand all of the negativity towards this proposed deal. We keep a 1st rounder, and gain a STUD of a LB. Rocky may not be developing the way they want, or if they are like me, you just can't pass up on a guy like Briggs. especially when you essentially just change picks and do not lose our 1st rounder. Our D line does need to be addressed, which it will, just later in the draft. The draft is deep enough we can get a quality player. There may be something in the works we do not know about yet. I can't believe the number of people that are all for signing aged up LB or OLINE men, but when a 26 year old beast LB comes available for essentially nothing, people are bashing it. Yes it will cost us, yes Rocky will sit, but that is just a move that can't be ignored. That side of our D was consistantly run all over.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

Scheend you are right on with that last post brother. I don't like it either.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

Sorry I mispelled your name dude.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[QUOTE=Schneed10;291695]With any deal you make, whether for players or in business, you have to look at the opportunity cost, or said differently, what opportunity we're giving up to make this deal.

To me, we currently have the opportunity to either:
1) Select Amobi Okoye at 6th overall and get the beast DT that we need eat up blocks, allowing our LBs to flow to the ball, and allowing our DEs more space to rush the passer.
2) Trade #6 for multiple picks, such as a high 1st (still allowing us to get an impact DL player) and a 2nd. Which essentially means we'd be giving up a chance to draft a 2nd rounder who could play G or S for us. There is evidence that Denver is willing to make a deal. And if Adrian Peterson falls to us, there's a real possibility we could end up with a massive package being proposed to us.

In this deal, we get Briggs. But we give up ANY possibility at getting a huge offer for #6 should Quinn or Peterson drop to us. We give up the ability to fix our horrible DT spot opposite Griffin (please, let's dismiss the notion that Golston will ever be effective stopping the run at 290 pounds). We also give up more cap space because Briggs will be more expensive than the #6 pick. And we give up on the opportunity to let Rocky McIntosh develop into a serious player, because we'll have 3 LBs in front of him, plus Marshall vying for time as well.

Just look at the cost-benefit picture here. It doesn't add up.[/QUOTE]

Good post. You are absolutely correct.

As for all the, "we still keep a first round pick" talk, that is crap. It's the 31st pick! It might as well be a 2nd rounder.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

First: Lets not panic. In the espn article, they said Snyder hasn't even talked to the Bears. So the 6th for the 31st might not happen.
Second: This is a great deal if and only if we can get a second or third in addition.
Third: If we do make this deal, we should trade Rocky for a third round pick. It is obvious we don't think he can cut it, if we make this trade.
Finally: No matter what happens it might not be so bad, because Briggs is a absoulte stud and only 26. He can get in a three point stance on third downs and rush. With the 31st pick there is going to be a good player available. Heck maybe even A. Branch after Kiper keeps dogging him (just kidding).

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

Does anybody have any insight as to what Williams will do with Lemar, Rocky, Marcus, London and Lance at his disposal. He must be salivating at the thought of all that hard-hitting, high motor personnel that he'll be able to apply his gifted defensive genius to.

I get the feeling that the Skins are in full "all or nothing" mode. GTripp highlights the salary situation in the next couple of years which the Skins may be looking at as well. Perhaps Gibbs/Williams/Saunders/Danny and Yoda realize that even darker times are ahead so it's better load up to win right now.

If Williams has some sort of new swarming LB defense (3-4 hybrid) that he thinks will revolutionize how defenses are played then I can't argue against that. If it's just going to be "same ole, same ole" then I don't see any overwhelmingly positive gain out this as opposed to drafting a stud D-lineman earlier in the draft.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[QUOTE=Schneed10;291695]With any deal you make, whether for players or in business, you have to look at the opportunity cost, or said differently, what opportunity we're giving up to make this deal.

To me, we currently have the opportunity to either:
1) Select Amobi Okoye at 6th overall and get the beast DT that we need eat up blocks, allowing our LBs to flow to the ball, and allowing our DEs more space to rush the passer.
2) Trade #6 for multiple picks, such as a high 1st (still allowing us to get an impact DL player) and a 2nd. Which essentially means we'd be giving up a chance to draft a 2nd rounder who could play G or S for us. There is evidence that Denver is willing to make a deal. And if Adrian Peterson falls to us, there's a real possibility we could end up with a massive package being proposed to us.

In this deal, we get Briggs. But we give up ANY possibility at getting a huge offer for #6 should Quinn or Peterson drop to us. We give up the ability to fix our horrible DT spot opposite Griffin (please, let's dismiss the notion that Golston will ever be effective stopping the run at 290 pounds). We also give up more cap space because Briggs will be more expensive than the #6 pick. And we give up on the opportunity to let Rocky McIntosh develop into a serious player, because we'll have 3 LBs in front of him, plus Marshall vying for time as well.

Just look at the cost-benefit picture here. It doesn't add up.[/QUOTE]


Agreed. I personally wouldn't mind if we picked Okoye with our 6th pick.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[QUOTE=#56fanatic;291700]for the life of me I can't understand all of the negativity towards this proposed deal. We keep a 1st rounder, and gain a STUD of a LB. Rocky may not be developing the way they want, or if they are like me, you just can't pass up on a guy like Briggs. especially when you essentially just change picks and do not lose our 1st rounder. Our D line does need to be addressed, which it will, just later in the draft. The draft is deep enough we can get a quality player. There may be something in the works we do not know about yet. I can't believe the number of people that are all for signing aged up LB or OLINE men, but when a 26 year old beast LB comes available for essentially nothing, people are bashing it. Yes it will cost us, yes Rocky will sit, but that is just a move that can't be ignored. That side of our D was consistantly run all over.[/QUOTE]
People are against it because it's the same old song.. Overpay for someone else's superstar while not addressing your most pressing need or developing what's in house.. Anyone else remember Jeremiah Trotter and Antonio Pierce? I know one wasn't a replacement for the other but how did that work out for us?

Granted the FO knows more about the talent on the roster than anyone but did they see in the last 3 games that Rocky has no ability to man that position? Did they determine that moving Marshall to the outside automatically renders him ineffective? This is a move you make when you are one player away, not coming off of a 5-11 season with GLARING holes in the defensive line and pass rushing ends..

I hate to play the what if game but the '05 offseason set this team back for years by making 2 dumb decisions, letting Smoot and Pierce go because we seemingly felt there was something else better out there. We are doing the same thing with McIntosh. We don't know what he'll be over 16 games but after wasting a pick to go get him they are replacing him with someone elses superstar.

If OLB was a need, why not get Cato June who is the same age, slightly less accomplished but would cost a HELL of a lot less in compensation ($+draft position). I'm not saying Briggs is not a good LB but he's a luxury item to this current roster, not a necessity.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

This is a typical move that we would make. FA quick fixes is what Snyder and his butt buddy Cerrato like to do. This is why we will never win with this clown as our owner. He just doesn't believe in building anything.

Why would we make a deal before the draft? It makes no frickin sense. What if someone falls to us and another team is willing to trade up to get a certain player?

Doesn't Briggs play the weakside? We already have Rocky and Marshall at those positions. Terrible trade if we go through with it.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

for now...I'm going to assume that once we acquire Briggs...we're going to trade him to move back up and pick up a second or third rounder...but just adding Briggs with no extra picks is retarded when you consider our current linebacker core. This stinks of a desperation move in the wake of Washington's injury...kind of like the Duckett trade

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

Crazy thought I just had...

Previously, the Redskins were in discussions with the Broncos - Washington's sixth overall pick for Dré Bly and Denver's first, and reacquire a second- and third- round pick, which were dealt away (the Broncos have the Redskins' third-round selection from the T.J. Duckett trade). Obviously, this hasn't happened. By talking about our first rounder in conjunction with a two-time Pro Bowler under the franchise tag, could we be putting pressure on Denver to accept a previous deal that they may have tabled?

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

I hope this doesn't happen unless we get OUR 2nd rounder back in this pick.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

This is stupid. If it goes through what Defensive lineman will be available at 31.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

How about this, what if we were planning to make the Denver trade (6 for 21, Bly and second and third), and then trade the 21 pick (and maybe the third) for the 31 pick and Briggs. The move from 21 to 31 is worth 275 (the equivalent of a late 2nd).

Skins give up the 6th pick, get Bly, Briggs, the 31st pick and a second round pick

Denver gives up Bly, 21, second and third round picks, get the 6th pick.

Bears give up Briggs and the 31 pick, get the 21 and a third.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[quote=Schneed10;291684]I'm scared because I'm about to argue fervently against The Ego. But here goes nothing...

Just because a guy is labeled a franchise player, is he automatically worth 2 first round picks? That's what the CBA says a franchise player is worth in a trade, but that doesn't mean teams are willing to pay that.

If Lance Briggs didn't have the franchise tag, would you give this year's first rounder and next year's first rounder for him? I'd hope not. The reason? He's not worth that much, no matter what tag he has on him!

We're not coming out ahead of anything. We'd get a really good LB and a pick that can't possibly land us an impact DT. We don't need 1 good LB. We need an impact DT, a young G to groom (don't forget, we're currently planning on forcing a career-long T who is built like a T to switch to G), an athletic S to play alongside Taylor, and some would say a young DE because we're getting old at that spot.

This trade does not fit our needs, it doesn't solve our problems, and it perpetuates the players' discontent with our front office's willingness to pay outside talent rather than pay to keep their own. We need to trade the 6th pick for more picks, not Lance Briggs and a pick that can't solve our biggest need: DT.[/quote]To play devil's advocate for a second-

I like Justin Harrell as a prospect. And there's an outside chance that Alan Branch could still be around at 31. So if we could land a prospect whom we were considering at 6, and now only have to pay him No. 31 money, we'd actually come out great in this deal.

But then again, if Harrell and Branch get taken prior to 31, and we don't have an option but to take the best remaining DL prospect, then the Briggs deal has officially royaly screwed us.

If we are genuinely interested in this deal, I could only assume it was because we weren't enamored with ANY of the top prospects.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[quote=Skinsfanatic;291713]How about this, what if we were planning to make the Denver trade (6 for 21, Bly and second and third), and then trade the 21 pick (and maybe the third) for the 31 pick and Briggs. The move from 21 to 31 is worth 275 (the equivalent of a late 2nd).

Skins give up the 6th pick, get Bly, Briggs, the 31st pick and a second round pick

Denver gives up Bly, 21, second and third round picks, get the 6th pick.

Bears give up Briggs and the 31 pick, get the 21 and a third.[/quote]
this works for everyone but the bears. they lose an all pro linebacker for the equivalent of a third round pick. with him carrying the franchise tag, the can do alot better

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[quote=dmek25;291715]this works for everyone but the bears. they lose an all pro linebacker for the equivalent of a third round pick. with him carrying the franchise tag, the can do alot better[/quote]

actually, its the equivalent of a second and a third, and even if we gave them the move up and a second, with us keeping the third, we would still be doing pretty good.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[QUOTE=Skinsfanatic;291713]How about this, what if we were planning to make the Denver trade (6 for 21, Bly and second and third), and then trade the 21 pick (and maybe the third) for the 31 pick and Briggs. The move from 21 to 31 is worth 275 (the equivalent of a late 2nd).

Skins give up the 6th pick, get Bly, Briggs, the 31st pick and a second round pick

Denver gives up Bly, 21, second and third round picks, get the 6th pick.

Bears give up Briggs and the 31 pick, get the 21 and a third.[/QUOTE]

Are the Redskins giving up some magic beans to build a beanstalk to get all of that? Seriously, that's not a trade that would even fly on Madden.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[QUOTE=redskins5044;291456]no link to this story but on the nfl network on the scroll on the bottom of the screen for the bears they are saying they are considering trading briggs and the 31st overall in the first round for the skins 6th pick in the first round.[/QUOTE]

Bears fan here in DC, I also follow the Skins alot too. As a Bears fan, I'd make this deal in a second. The Bears have the 37th pick also, so losing the 31 and gaining the 6 is a no-brainer. And Briggs while a great linebacker, is probably going to cost the Skins a monster paycheck. He turned down a huge and fair offer from the Bears last year. And while he's very good, he's also surrounded by an already very good D in Chicago, especially with Urlacher next to him. So as a Bears fan I'm drooling over this....the Redskins fan in me says stay away.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[QUOTE=#56fanatic;291700]for the life of me I can't understand all of the negativity towards this proposed deal. We keep a 1st rounder, and gain a STUD of a LB. Rocky may not be developing the way they want, or if they are like me, you just can't pass up on a guy like Briggs. especially when you essentially just change picks and do not lose our 1st rounder. [B]Our D line does need to be addressed, which it will, just later in the draft. The draft is deep enough we can get a quality player. [/B]There may be something in the works we do not know about yet. I can't believe the number of people that are all for signing aged up LB or OLINE men, but when a 26 year old beast LB comes available for essentially nothing, people are bashing it. Yes it will cost us, yes Rocky will sit, but that is just a move that can't be ignored. That side of our D was consistantly run all over.[/QUOTE]


The problem is we don't have any other picks until round 5 -- and there will not be any defensive linemen at that late stage to help where we need it most. This year's draft is deep at DL, but not [I]that[/I] deep. If we take this deal and get the 31st pick, we won't have any bargaining power to trade down -- so there definitely won't be anything else "in the works" if this happens.

Teams ran all over us at the defensive line first -- so it follows that we need to address the front four first. Briggs won't matter at that point.