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[quote=SmootSmack;521749]I think what's most likely the case is that they didn't contingency plan well enough so that they didn't properly evaluate all alternatives when the board (as it would always do) didn't go exactly as planned.

[B]I think all three 2nd round choices will be just fine in the NFL, but at what cost?[/B]

As for Peppers, message boards around the interwebs are suggesting Colt Brennan be offered up in a deal for Peppers :)[/quote]

I agree. That's the key. And in an effort to sway this thread back to Peppers, we really should draft a D-lineman sometime earlier than the 5th round for once this decade. I think we'd be looking much better if those 3 2nd round picks had been (in no particular order) OL, DL, WR.

Re: Peppers says he wants to explore free agency
 

[quote=SmootSmack;521749]I think what's most likely the case is that they didn't contingency plan well enough so that they didn't properly evaluate all alternatives when the board (as it would always do) didn't go exactly as planned.

I think all three 2nd round choices will be just fine in the NFL, but at what cost?

As for Peppers, message boards around the interwebs are suggesting Colt Brennan be offered up in a deal for Peppers :)[/quote]

That sounds feasible but I'd rather get Haynesworth for Colt. Both teams are in need of a quarterback. Even if they decide to go with their guy for another season. How does that work out? Aren't both Peppers and Haynesworth unrestricted FAs? How could we trade if these guys can just walk anyway?

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[quote=Mattyk72;521755]Let's get back on that Colt for Peppers deal. I think that would fly what do you guys think?[/quote]

It'd be a steal for us except for a few things

1. Let's say its Colt and Rogers or even Colt and the 1st, could we afford to take a chance like that? I mean Colt isn't offering us anything right now but his upside is greater (I would think) then what Peppers can offer us. Unless we think we're going to win it all next year which I doubt.

2. Where do we turn for backup help? Not in the draft, I've heard Zorn isn't impressed with any of this year's QBs

3. I'd guess the Panthers would make a push for Cassel before Colt. But if they really want to be dicks to Peppers they'll trade him to Detroit (where he gets his 3-4 defense wish) and they get their 20th and 33rd pick and maybe take a QB there.

4. The Panthers apparently fired their defensive line coach, I wonder if that's a move to appease Peppers?

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;521759]That sounds feasible but I'd rather get Haynesworth for Colt. Both teams are in need of a quarterback. Even if they decide to go with their guy for another season. How does that work out? Aren't both Peppers and Haynesworth unrestricted FAs? How could we trade if these guys can just walk anyway?[/quote]

Well in Peppers case he can be franchised

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How about a 3 way deal, we get Peppers and Haynesworth, the Panthers get Colt, the Titans get Delhomme. That would be money.

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[quote=Mattyk72;521763]How about a 3 way deal, we get Peppers and Haynesworth, the Panthers get Colt, the Titans get Delhomme. That would be money.[/quote]

Can we also send Vince Young to the Chiefs who send a pick to the Cardinals who send Leinart to the Vikings and we get Steve Hutchinson?

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[quote=SmootSmack;521765]Can we also send Vince Young to the Chiefs who send a pick to the Cardinals who send Leinart to the Vikings and we get Steve Hutchinson?[/quote]Boo. I want Kevin Williams AND Chad Greenway.

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[quote=SmootSmack;521765]Can we also send Vince Young to the Chiefs who send a pick to the Cardinals who send Leinart to the Vikings and we get Steve Hutchinson?[/quote]

I'm buying what you're selling.

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How can we swing Peyton Manning somewhere in this deal?

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[quote=GTripp0012;521767]Boo. I want Kevin Williams AND Chad Greenway.[/quote]

I'm only on board if they throw in Bryant McKinnie as well.

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While we're at it, can Peppers play in the "off-season" for the Wizards? We could use some help up front

Seriously though, the Panthers should try to get a QB out of Peppers but I doubt it's Colt

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[quote=Mattyk72;521770]How can we swing Peyton Manning somewhere in this deal?[/quote]Simple. Colt Brennan to the Jets, who package Eric Barton and a third round pick to the Broncos, who trade Champ Bailey, Elvis Dumerville, and Chris Kuper to the Colts who send Manning and a 6th round pick to us.

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[quote=SmootSmack;521772][B]While we're at it, can Peppers play in the "off-season" for the Wizards? We could use some help up front[/B]

Seriously though, the Panthers should try to get a QB out of Peppers but I doubt it's Colt[/quote]

HA! No doubt. Maybe he can teach our frontcourt how to grow a set of onions and rebound/defend.

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[quote=GTripp0012;521773]Simple. Colt Brennan to the Jets, who package Eric Barton and a third round pick to the Broncos, who trade Champ Bailey, Elvis Dumerville, and Chris Kuper to the Colts who send Manning and a 6th round pick to us.[/quote]

Brilliant! Championship!

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And Eric Barton is a free agent, so that might not be quite as plausible as I thought :P

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[quote=GTripp0012;521776]And Eric Barton is a free agent, so that might not be quite as plausible as I thought :P[/quote]

Actually, on a serious note, he may be able to help us. He's 31 so we wouldn't be getting younger, but he's a solid player and a local guy (Alexandria, VA / Univ. of MD), and lord knows we need help at LB.

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[quote=GMScud;521777]Actually, on a serious note, he may be able to help us. He's 31 so we wouldn't be getting younger, but he's a solid player and a local guy (Alexandria, VA / Univ. of MD), and lord knows we need help at LB.[/quote]Hey, dude, this is a Peppers thread!

I'd be in favor of Barton here, but his 2009 cap number would have to be 950k or less.

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Guys, guys, seriously, all kidding aside...how do we get Jesse Lumsden from the Ti-Cats?

Here's what I'm thinking

Redskins Trade: Any posts by Offiss on "official message boards"

Falcons Get: Any posts by Offiss on "official message boards" (immediately dumped)
Falcons Trade: Vick memorabilia to the Mavericks (Cuban sells it online at a marked-up price)

Mavericks Trade: Jerry Stackhouse to the Edmonton Oilers

Oilers Trade: Any gameday program from 1983-1988 featuring Mark Messier on the cover to the Toronto Argonauts

Argos Trade: Raghib "Rocket" Ismail's rookie jersey to the Ti-Cats

And viola! we get Lumsden

I should be a freaking GM!

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Isn't Barton an inside backer? I want outside help

Cushing looking impressive at Senior Bowl Week today, supposedly

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Even if we wanted Peppers he would not come here and play for Snyder and his disfunctional front office. Peppers wants a SB and he knows Dannyboy has his hands on trying to run this team and his little puppet Vinny cannot draft worth a crap.

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[quote=SmootSmack;521765]Can we also send Vince Young to the Chiefs who send a pick to the Cardinals who send Leinart to the Vikings and we get Steve Hutchinson?[/quote]
Sooo....a....you been talking to somebody? This is....gonna' happen?

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[quote=Paintrain;521106]EXACTLY! I can't see him sustaining his level once he gets paid. He was average prior to '07 and made more headlines for head stomping Gurode than his play until he was in a contract year.[/quote]
It can be argued that in 06 he only played 11 games and prior to that were his first few years in the game. So maybe he's looking to get paid or maybe he just found out how to be dominant. I'm sure that a true fan of the Titans would have a better indication, maybe we should ask them.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;521165]Are you going to risk giving him a Dana Stubblefield fat contract and risk watching him do nothing? Haven't we learned? I say pass no matter how talented he is, we have too may needs to blow our money on a player who is on the cusp of of maybe the down side of his career.[/quote]

Every single team has made a bust trade or signing.. if "learning" means never doing the same thing again we'd never acquire players in any method, that's trades, free agency and udfa, draft, etc

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[quote=MdBluefinCrab;521181]29 year old Peppers? No thanks. 1 or 2 years is all that you might get out of him and to do that, The Little Danny would have to pay him a ton of money.
For once, let's try and build through the draft and get some young players that can contribute for the next 4 -8 years instead of these high priced 1 year flops we keep getting.[/quote]

it's DE not RB, a lot of ends stay on longer than 30

how many drafts do you want to build through? last I checked we only have 4 picks and a few more needs

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[quote=tryfuhl;522067]it's DE not RB, a lot of ends stay on longer than 30

how many drafts do you want to build through? last I checked we only have 4 picks and a few more needs[/quote]

I swear, we need to add "build through the draft" to the list of overused phrases that people post without thinking about what it actually means.