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That girl on the commercial has insecurity issues. BTW..I hate the Cowboys.

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geez how did they miss that one...

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how do you drop that pass?

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[quote=Kalisto2010;642595]I respectfully disagree. Sure he's had some inconsistencies but he doesn't get enough reps. Jerry Jones didn't give up a 1st round pick for him because he's a bum. And yes he's a huge talent, you don't start for Texas or [B]go in the first round if your not a huge talent[/B]. Don't let your hatred for Dallas derail your objectivity.[/quote]

Ryan Leaf.

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The cowboys are such a front running team. I agree with 53. I hate the cowboys!

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[quote=GMScud;642591]Barbursville Cab? You mean Cab Franc? I know they are a VA wine. Never tried them. How is it?[/quote]

I wish it was a Carb Franc...Sauvignon...not bad, not a huge wine fan, but their Barbera Reserve is outstanding along with their Octagon, both reds...[url]http://www.barboursvillewine.net...never[/url] been there, heard its great place...

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[quote=Kalisto2010;642595]I respectfully disagree. Sure he's had some inconsistencies but he doesn't get enough reps. Jerry Jones didn't give up a 1st round pick for him because he's a bum. And yes he's a huge talent, you don't start for Texas or go in the first round if your not a huge talent. Don't let your hatred for Dallas derail your objectivity.[/quote]

His work ethic is consistently challenged and he drops a lot of passes. You think he sucks as a Cowboy simply because Romo doesn't throw to him enough? Please. If Miles Austin can work his way into all these reps, than your superstar 1st round Texas Talent should be able to do the same. Reps are earned. Roy Williams = BUM/BUST. Flat out.

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[quote=Kalisto2010;642595]I respectfully disagree. Sure he's had some inconsistencies but he doesn't get enough reps. Jerry Jones didn't give up a 1st round pick for him because he's a bum. And yes he's a huge talent, you don't start for Texas or go in the first round if your not a huge talent. Don't let your hatred for Dallas derail your objectivity.[/quote]

Dude this isn't college, he failed in Detroit, and hasn't stepped up in Dallas. Has nothing to do with hating Dallas, I will give props if a guy deserves it, but RW11 hasn't shown anything in the last couple years to be getting those props.

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[quote=53Fan;642600]Ryan Leaf.[/quote]

Ryan leaf never had a stellar season in the NFL. Roy's best season he had 82 receptions with over 1300 yards and made the Pro-bowl. Ryan leaf never attained over a 60 QB rating.

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:doh:Omg.

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Sadly the boys are going to run this ball and kill any chance the saints have. aarrghh, cowboy fans will be talking SB all week.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;642607]Sadly the boys are going to run this ball and kill any chance the saints have. aarrghh, cowboy fans will be talking SB all week.[/quote]

yeah and you know sandtrapjack will show back up

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[quote=Kalisto2010;642605]Ryan leaf never had a stellar season in the NFL. Roy's best season he had 82 receptions with over 1300 yards and made the Pro-bowl. Ryan leaf never attained over a 60 QB rating.[/quote]

I'm just pointing out that being drafted in the first round doesn't make you a huge talent. And yes, I do...hate the Cowboys.

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[quote=Chico23231;642602]I wish it was a Carb Franc...Sauvignon...not bad, not a huge wine fan, but their Barbera Reserve is outstanding along with their Octagon, both reds...[URL]http://www.barboursvillewine.net...never[/URL] been there, heard its great place...[/quote]

I'd love to tour their winery. If you like Cab Franc, you should try [URL="http://www.thetastingroomwinebar.com/03.html"]Topiary [/URL]from Boxwood Winery in VA (owned by John Kent Cooke, Jack's son). Rachel Martin (John's stepdaughter) is a friend of mine and is basically the CEO of the winery. They really put out some good wine.

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[quote=mlmdub130;642608]yeah and you know sandtrapjack will show back up[/quote]

Well at least they won't come here with a loss and desperate to win...and we will take care of them.

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[quote=53Fan;642609]I'm just pointing out that being drafted in the first round doesn't make you a huge talent[/quote]

Yes it does. No one wastes a first round pick on anyone who's not a huge talent. We'll agree to disagree.

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[quote=Kalisto2010;642595]I respectfully disagree. Sure he's had some inconsistencies but he doesn't get enough reps. Jerry Jones didn't give up a 1st round pick for him because he's a bum. And yes he's a huge talent, you don't start for Texas or go in the first round if your not a huge talent. Don't let your hatred for Dallas derail your objectivity.[/quote]

That's fine. I maintain, however, Williams is a bum. Without looking, I think Williams and Devin Thomas are having comparable seasons. I haven't checked in a while, but I will when I'm done typing this.

As far as him having talent and playing for Texas, a big SO WHAT. What does that have to do with anything? The list is very long of those who were great in college and busts in the NFL. Did it ever occur to you that Roy Williams doesn't get looks because he's not open? Roy Williams runs one or two good routes (slants and posts), take those away and he's a very, very ordinary NFL reciever.

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Roy E Williams Stats:
Years Tm GP REC YDS YPC Lng TD FD FUM FUM LOST
2004 DET 14 54 817 15.1 46 8 34 1 1
2005 DET 13 45 687 15.3 51 8 31 0 0
2006 DET 16 82 1310 16.0 60 7 66 2 2
2007 DET 12 64 838 13.1 91 5 34 2 1
2008 DAL 10 19 198 10.4 38 1 12 0 0
2008 DET 5 17 232 13.6 25 1 14 0 0

If you are gonna throw out stats might as well show them all. He's not a superstar, and Austin is the hot receiver right now, so enjoy the man crush, just don't expect any knowledgeable fans here to buy into it.

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[quote=12thMan;642613]That's fine. I maintain, however, Williams is a bum. Without looking, I think Williams and Devin Thomas are having comparable seasons. I haven't checked in a while, but I will when I'm done typing this.

As far as him having talent and playing for Texas, a big SO WHAT. What does that have to do with anything? The list is very long of those who were great in college and busts in the NFL. Did it ever occur to you that Roy Williams doesn't get looks because he's not open? Roy Williams runs one or two good routes (slants and posts), take those away and he's a very, very ordinary NFL reciever.[/quote]

And I maintain that bums don't make probowls. Roy Williams did. End of story.

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[quote=GMScud;642610]I'd love to tour their winery. If you like Cab Franc, you should try [URL="http://www.thetastingroomwinebar.com/03.html"]Topiary [/URL]from Boxwood Winery in VA (owned by John Kent Cooke, Jack's son). Rachel Martin (John's stepdaughter) is a friend of mine and is basically the CEO of the winery. They really put out some good wine.[/quote]

Nice, ill have to check it out. Cab Franc has become my fav, seems bolder, pepper & tobbaco notes, good sh*t, Virginia seems to grow it well

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[quote=Kalisto2010;642612]Yes it does. No one wastes a first round pick on anyone who's not a huge talent. We'll agree to disagree.[/quote]

there is a huge difference between nfl talent an collee talent though andyou can't always el hich colee talntwill bereat nfl talents

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[quote=mlmdub130;642608]yeah and you know sandtrapjack will show back up[/quote]

Yeah, he will say it's cuz its Skins week, and he has been busy. I hate the cowboys

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;642614]Roy E Williams Stats:
Years Tm GP REC YDS YPC Lng TD FD FUM FUM LOST
2004 DET 14 54 817 15.1 46 8 34 1 1
2005 DET 13 45 687 15.3 51 8 31 0 0
2006 DET 16 82 1310 16.0 60 7 66 2 2
2007 DET 12 64 838 13.1 91 5 34 2 1
2008 DAL 10 19 198 10.4 38 1 12 0 0
2008 DET 5 17 232 13.6 25 1 14 0 0

just don't expect any knowledgeable fans here to buy into it.[/quote]

So I guess that excludes you doesn't it.

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[quote=Kalisto2010;642612]Yes it does. No one wastes a first round pick on anyone who's not a huge talent. We'll agree to disagree.[/quote]

Teams blow millions of dollars in the 1st round every year on guys who flash potential in college.

Aside from one really solid year in Detroit, Roy Williams hasn't done shit in the NFL. I'd love to know why you're singling him out and defending him. He sucks man. Show me stats to prove otherwise (not from a few years back on another team). If he was so great, he'd be taking reps away from undrafted Miles Austin. He's a gigantic underachiever just like every other Matt Millen WR not named Calvin Johnson.

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[quote=Kalisto2010;642615]And I maintain that bums don't make probowls. Roy Williams did. End of story.[/quote]

Pro Bowls are a popularity contest.

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[quote=mlmdub130;642617]there is a huge difference between nfl talent an collee talent though andyou can't always el hich colee talntwill bereat nfl talents[/quote]

speaking of the drunk thread! :)

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[quote=mlmdub130;642617]there is a huge difference between nfl talent an collee talent though andyou can't always el hich colee talntwill bereat nfl talents[/quote]

my keyboard batteries were low, unfortunatly i'm not that drunk yet

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[quote=mlmdub130;642617]there is a huge difference between nfl talent an collee talent though andyou can't always el hich colee talntwill bereat nfl talents[/quote]

thats what im screamin

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[quote=Kalisto2010;642619]So I guess that excludes you doesn't it.[/quote]
No, not really, but thanks for deleting the main point and ignoring the stats. Classy

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[quote=Kalisto2010;642615]And I maintain that bums don't make probowls. Roy Williams did. End of story.[/quote]

Wait, which Cowboys Roy Williams are you talking about? Because the safety Roy Williams made a few pro-bowls despite being below average at best year in and year out.

You gonna enlighten us as to why you're defending such a worthless joke of a WR who happens to play for our archrival?

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The NFL Network post game show is sponsored by Kay Jewelers. I guess the same people that thought nothing says football like jewelry were the same folks that thought we'd all like to hear Matt Millens thoughts on football and life.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;642614]Roy E Williams Stats:
Years Tm GP REC YDS YPC Lng TD FD FUM FUM LOST
2004 DET 14 54 817 15.1 46 8 34 1 1
2005 DET 13 45 687 15.3 51 8 31 0 0
2006 DET 16 82 1310 16.0 60 7 66 2 2
2007 DET 12 64 838 13.1 91 5 34 2 1
2008 DAL 10 19 198 10.4 38 1 12 0 0
2008 DET 5 17 232 13.6 25 1 14 0 0

If you are gonna throw out stats might as well show them all. He's not a superstar, and Austin is the hot receiver right now, so enjoy the man crush, just don't expect any knowledgeable fans here to buy into it.[/quote]

Since you want to compare stats lets do it. Here's Myles Austins stats. Lack luster, never had a better season than Roy Williams. [b]Checkmate[/b]

2006 DAL 9 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 0
2007 DAL 16 5 76 15.2 35 0 3 0 0
2008 DAL 12 13 278 21.4 63 3 11 0 0
2009 DAL 13 58 999 17.2 60 10 43 1 0
Career 50 76 1353 17.8 63 13 57

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[quote=Kalisto2010;642612]Yes it does. No one wastes a first round pick on anyone who's not a huge talent. We'll agree to disagree.[/quote]

Everyone who has ever been drafted has some talent. That doesn't mean they become good NFL players. That's why there have been many first round "busts". Williams had a good year in Detroit but is not the player he was thought to be. Whether it's a lack of effort or what, I don't know. I would have no problem blaming Romo for anything, but in this case, I can't. Williams is underachieving.

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is he a cowboys fan

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How the f*ck did Millen score this job? He is horrible

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[quote=GMScud;642627]Wait, which Cowboys Roy Williams are you talking about? Because the safety Roy Williams made a few pro-bowls despite being below average at best year in and year out.

You gonna enlighten us as to [B]why you're defending such a worthless joke of a WR who happens to play for our archrival?[/B][/quote]

Maybe cabin fever for being snowed in? Well only if they are in the DC area. LOL.

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[quote=GMScud;642627]Wait, which Cowboys Roy Williams are you talking about? Because the safety Roy Williams made a few pro-bowls despite being below average at best year in and year out.

You gonna enlighten us as to why you're defending such a worthless joke of a WR who happens to play for our archrival?[/quote]

It's too funny to even reply. Williams (both of them) are bums!

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[quote=redskins5044;642631]is he a cowboys fan[/quote]

Nope, but I refuse to be attacked for sharing an opinon. Nor will I ever back down when the facts are on my side. Once Myles Austin catches 80 balls and makes a prow bowl then his ardent supporters will have a leg to stand on. Until he does, Roy has had a more accomplished career.

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[quote=Kalisto2010;642629]Since you want to compare stats lets do it. Here's Myles Austins stats. Lack luster, never had a better season than Roy Williams. [b]Checmate[/b]

2006 DAL 9 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 0
2007 DAL 16 5 76 15.2 35 0 3 0 0
2008 DAL 12 13 278 21.4 63 3 11 0 0
2009 DAL 13 58 999 17.2 60 10 43 1 0
Career 50 76 1353 17.8 63 13 57[/quote]

dude he has only come on this year just face it rot williams blows and thank god he is on the cowboys and we didn't get him

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Wait, is this CantonLegend's brother on here defending Roy Williams?