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So smoking should be discouraged, unless it's weed. Got it.

I'm of two minds on this. Prohibition never works. But let's not act like pot is any less a vice than alcohol, smoking etc. LOL comparing it to oreos. At what point are sweets acceptable, then? Should we ban anything but rice cakes and cucumber salad (no dressing)?

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I've seen more than a few people post this as fact on FB the last few days.

[url=http://dailycurrant.com/2014/01/02/marijuana-overdoses-kill-37-in-colorado-on-first-day-of-legalization/]Marijuana Overdoses Kill 37 in Colorado On First Day of Legalization - The Daily Currant[/url]

[IMG]http://i.stack.imgur.com/jiFfM.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=HailGreen28;1053228][B]So smoking should be discouraged, unless it's weed. Got it.[/B]

I'm of two minds on this. Prohibition never works. But let's not act like pot is any less a vice than alcohol, smoking etc. LOL comparing it to oreos. At what point are sweets acceptable, then? Should we ban anything but rice cakes and cucumber salad (no dressing)?[/quote]

Weed has some proven medicinal value, unlike tobacco.

[QUOTE=HailGreen28;1053228]So smoking should be discouraged, unless it's weed. Got it.

I'm of two minds on this. Prohibition never works. But let's not act like pot is any less a vice than alcohol, smoking etc. LOL comparing it to oreos. At what point are sweets acceptable, then? Should we ban anything but rice cakes and cucumber salad (no dressing)?[/QUOTE]

Smoking anything should be discouraged, now vaporizing something, that's another story.

And who is acting like pot is not a vice? Alcohol and tobacco are both legal vices, that are both have considerably worse known side effects, yet are both accepted by society and legal. And all sweets are legal so I'm not really sure what your point is? But if you don't think restrictions, taxes and bans of sweets are coming you are kidding yourself.

Everything in life is about moderation, unfortunately we as Americans who live in the world of excess sometimes find it hard to moderate are lives.

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[quote=mlmdub130;1053280]Smoking anything should be discouraged, now vaporizing something, that's another story.

And who is acting like pot is not a vice? Alcohol and tobacco are both legal vices, that are both have considerably worse known side effects, yet are both accepted by society and legal. And all sweets are legal so I'm not really sure what your point is? But if you don't think restrictions, taxes and bans of sweets are coming you are kidding yourself.

[B]Everything in life is about moderation, unfortunately we as Americans who live in the world of excess sometimes find it hard to moderate are lives.[/B][/quote]

Well said. Also, I think alot of people who have substance abuse issues are genetically predispose to addiction issues to begin with or are suffering from mental illness(depression, anxiety, stress disorders, personality disorder, etc). With these cases, the approach that works best is health issue approach. The criminal approach is the wrong way.

We as a country need to step back redefine alot of issues, mental health and substance abuse issues are top of the list imo. The typical "man up" or lock the person up and throw away the key approaches to these issues dont work. I think a light is starting to go off about mental health as we see these mass shootings across the nation and heinous crimes.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1053228]So smoking should be discouraged, unless it's weed. Got it.

I'm of two minds on this. Prohibition never works. But let's not act like pot is any less a vice than alcohol, smoking etc. LOL comparing it to oreos. At what point are sweets acceptable, then? Should we ban anything but rice cakes and cucumber salad (no dressing)?[/quote]

Making it legal, with age restrictions like smoking, putting advisories on packaging, and taxing it all would be a step in the right direction. No one is talking about force feeding it to people who don't want to smoke it, just not incarcerating those who do.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1053331]Making it legal, with age restrictions like smoking, putting advisories on packaging, and taxing it all would be a step in the right direction. No one is talking about force feeding it to people who don't want to smoke it, just not incarcerating those who do.[/quote]

Eliminate the black market, reduce crime, profit from it, everyone wins. Because at the end of the day people want to and are going to get high legal or not, might as well make it safer and make money off it.

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[url=http://www.vice.com/read/i-just-bought-legal-weed]I Just Bought Legal Weed | VICE United States[/url]

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Im thinking about taking my first trip to Colorado. The breweries out there are outstanding and now this? Should be great

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[quote=Chico23231;1053997]Im thinking about taking my first trip to Colorado. The breweries out there are outstanding and now this? Should be great[/quote]

Yeah seriously

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[url=http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/01/07/cnn-poll-americans-say-marijuana-is-less-dangerous-than-booze-or-tobacco/?hpt=hp_t2]CNN Poll: Americans say marijuana is less dangerous than booze or tobacco – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs[/url]

Americans aren't so dumb after all

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[quote=Chico23231;1054068][URL="http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/01/07/cnn-poll-americans-say-marijuana-is-less-dangerous-than-booze-or-tobacco/?hpt=hp_t2"]CNN Poll: Americans say marijuana is less dangerous than booze or tobacco – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs[/URL][/quote]


You won't see this on Fox .

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[quote=Giantone;1054159]You won't see this on Fox .[/quote]

What, truth?

Look if it can help people with seizures, cancer, depression, anxiety, etc why the federal government holding back? Its time to reclassify the "drug" aka a plant or flower.

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[quote=Chico23231;1033267][url=http://www.nbc12.com/story/23695834/research-shows-oreos-can-be-just-as-addicting-as-drugs]Research shows Oreos can be just as addictive as drugs - NBC12.com - Richmond, VA News[/url]

How is weed still illegal and oreos and crap food are legal and actually addictive, unlike weed?[/quote]

im not a fat dude but im getting fat.

i tore through some oreos the other night. it was so bad i tried to hid the package in between the microwave and cabinet so my lady wouldnt find it and ask me why i ate 90% of a new package of oreos in one night.

she found the package and left it in front of the microwave.

i went and crushed the rest.

i need help.

when we go grocery shopping i make it a point to not buy anything i know i will crush at midnight.

but this was one of her stocking stuffers so it slipped in the house.

i also ate 1/4 of a king cake last night. this morning i gave our daughter a sliver of king cake so if my lady asks me i can say "we" instead of "I".

i need help.

last week i had to explain how i we ran out of baby carrots so fast.

"blue cheese bitch! it was the effing blue cheese! .. the mazeratti ultimate blue cheese is soooo goood".

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[quote=Mattyk;1053273]I've seen more than a few people post this as fact on FB the last few days.

[url=http://dailycurrant.com/2014/01/02/marijuana-overdoses-kill-37-in-colorado-on-first-day-of-legalization/]Marijuana Overdoses Kill 37 in Colorado On First Day of Legalization - The Daily Currant[/url][/quote]


Did you call them a fucking idiot? I hope so.

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Why is the war on drugs such a joke? Because the very people trying to "fight" it, are the same people who are allowing it to come into the country.



[url=http://www.businessinsider.com/the-us-government-and-the-sinaloa-cartel-2014-1]The U.S. Government And The Sinaloa Cartel - Business Insider[/url]


No shocker here our DEA allowed drug shipments to come freely into the states.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1055419]Did you call them a fucking idiot? I hope so.[/quote]

It's not even worth it. You could spend all day on FB calling out the idiots.

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[quote=Mattyk;1055612]It's not even worth it. You could spend all day on FB calling out the idiots.[/quote]

I was just teasin. I know that's not your style. You are also 100% correct on that.

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Maryland general assembly is discussing legalization of marijuana today. Opponents are calling it a gateway drug. To be honest I think alcohol and caffeine are bigger gateways and have more adverse health effects.

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Gateway drug, lol like that's even a viable excuse anymore

C'mon now

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Marijuana made them dyslexic, it's actually a getaway drug, and all this time people just had it backwards.

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[quote=Mattyk;1055812]Gateway drug, lol like that's even a viable excuse anymore

C'mon now[/quote]

if that was the case, I would know lawyers, engineers, regional sales managers, Web developers, who were crackheads by now. strange how that isnt the case.

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[quote=Mattyk;1055812]Gateway drug, lol like that's even a viable excuse anymore

C'mon now[/quote]

There used to be a commercial series with a teenage kid with catch line "Dude your getting a Dell!" He got busted for pot and the commercials ceased. It started the joke that "marijuana obviously isn't a Gateway drug it's a Dell drug"

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[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/in-major-shift-dc-voters-strongly-support-legalizing-marijuana/2014/01/15/9fcc6d04-7d6a-11e3-93c1-0e888170b723_story.html]In major shift, D.C. residents strongly support legalizing marijuana - The Washington Post[/url]

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Man, the weed movement is really in full swing. Moving much faster than I ever thought it would. Watch as more and more politicians will hop on board come election time.

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[url=http://blog.norml.org/2014/01/15/after-lengthy-floor-debate-new-hampshire-general-assembly-approves-marijuana-legalization/]New Hampshire House of Representatives Approves Marijuana Legalization | NORML Blog, Marijuana Law Reform[/url]

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Nancy Grace is just a joke, completely uninformed and ignorant to reality. No clue.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1055862]Man, the weed movement is really in full swing. Moving much faster than I ever thought it would. Watch as more and more politicians will hop on board come election time.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I'd imagine in the next 10 year's it's legal in every state

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[quote=Mattyk;1055999]Nancy Grace is just a joke, completely uninformed and ignorant to reality. No clue.

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Fuck you Matty for wasting about 4:30 of my life... :smashfreak: :laughing-

I held out as long as I could. Why are people listening to this stupid bitch? She sounds like the Rush Limbaugh for lefties.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;1055999]Nancy Grace is just a joke, completely uninformed and ignorant to reality. No clue.

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Ugh, me and the wife watch the HLN news in the morning with Robin Meade. The news broadcast is pretty good, and Robin is definitely easy on the eyes, but they always ruining ads for that hooker Nancy Grace. She has these stupid ass one liners and she's wearing some god awful handcuff necklace with this constipated look on her face. Every time I see her or hear her voice it's like nails on a chalkboard. She is right up there on my list of most hated people, I really can't stand her or anything she "stands" for.

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[quote=Mattyk;1055999]Nancy Grace is just a joke, completely uninformed and ignorant to reality. No clue.

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It's to the point where she seems like a Steven Colbert character, she can't behave and seriously talk like that in real life. It's Limbaugh-like, a fuckin act.

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All about the ratings and shouting down the opposition.

She's like an uglier Glenn Beck.

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[url=http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/power-players-abc-news/the-myths-of-marijuana-former-dea-chief-says-pot-legalization-a-disaster-224858590.html]The myths of marijuana: Former DEA chief says pot legalization a 'disaster'[/url]

He may have been a high ranking official but this paragraph just sounds crazy:

[QUOTE]It “will damage the young people in that state. It will damage the industries in the state, and put the highways in jeopardy,” he said. “Plus, it's against federal law and the Constitution and our international treaties.”[/QUOTE]
I agree that right now it's against federal law, and some international treaties - both of which could be re-done in a short period of time, but not quite sure that the Constitution says anything on marijuana.

He certainly shows that not everyone is jumping on the marijuana train though.

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^ Thankfully the crazies are getting drowned out by logical rational thinking.

Pure BS and fear mongering...

[QUOTE]“You'll dissipate a drink in about an hour per drink; marijuana can stay in your body for a week,” he said. “It goes to where we're fattest, which is our brain. … It causes short-term memory loss if used chronically. It impacts on the immune system if used regularly. It affects your depth perception.”

He said recent statistics show a spike in traffic fatalities from drivers high on pot and a significant influx in hospital emergency room visits due to overuse of the drug.[/QUOTE]

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[url=http://bigstory.ap.org/article/colorado-governor-reveals-pot-tax-spending-plan]Governor: Colorado pot market exceeds tax hopes[/url]

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^^ If the govt. ever figures out how to tax internet porn, we could abolish income taxes.

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[url=http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2014/02/medical_marijuana_dispensaries_denver_neighborhoods_impact.php]Medical marijuana stores impact neighborhoods in Denver no more than coffee shops, study says[/url]

Taking kids away from "pothead" parents. Very unfortunate

[url]http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/12/health/medical-marijuana-parents/?c=&page=1[/url]

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[quote=mlmdub130;1063953]Taking kids away from "pothead" parents. Very unfortunate

[url=http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/12/health/medical-marijuana-parents/?c=&page=1]Does medical marijuana equal bad parenting? - CNN.com[/url][/quote]

I almost married a girl who came from an alcoholic household growing up. You dont want to hear the stories.

Believe me when i say this, in fact Ill push all my chips in on this; i much rather have parents smoke pot than have parents who are alcoholics.

Bottomline is children shouldnt be subjected to any household where substance abuse exist. Its a terrible experience.