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[quote=Alvin Walton;872885]Mike Martz has left the Bears.
He would be a nice grab if we could shed Little Shan.[/quote]

Fail.

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[quote=Mattyk;872948]Fail.[/quote]

It seems we are all in mid-offseason form. LOL.

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[quote=NC_Skins;872913]Mike Martz is nice if you want your QB destroyed every other play. Everywhere he's gone, his QB hasn't made it.[/quote]


I thought Curt Warner did ok.

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[quote=Ruhskins;872973]It seems we are all in mid-offseason form. LOL.[/quote]

yep, we got 7 threads going on the same stuff trying like hell to kill that horse!! :bdh:

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[url=http://blogs.indystar.com/philb/2012/01/04/polian-dismissal-means-no-more-fear/#more-3666]Polian dismissal means no more fear | Bounce It Off Phil B. – Colts blog | The Indianapolis Star | IndyStar.com[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;872999][url=http://blogs.indystar.com/philb/2012/01/04/polian-dismissal-means-no-more-fear/#more-3666]Polian dismissal means no more fear | Bounce It Off Phil B. – Colts blog | The Indianapolis Star | IndyStar.com[/url][/quote]

Wow. Polian seems like a real douche.

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[quote=GTripp0012;872793]More division titles than Mike Shanahan. And, somehow, more AFC West division titles than Mike Shanahan.[/quote]

Oh please...if you think Norv is a better head coach then Shanny then there is nothing left to discuss.

I can't even think of another coach in NFL history who has even been given the chance to fail 3 times...

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[quote=Mattyk;872948]Fail.[/quote]

Whatever......
I see it as a big upgrade over Little Shan.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;873029]Whatever......
I see it as a big upgrade over Little Shan.[/quote]

Not sure what we need right now is a new offense to go along with our other issues. We tried that route a few years ago when Gibbs brought in Saunders in year 3 of his regime, that didn't work out so hot.

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more of a talent issue than a coaching issue IMO

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[quote=Giantone;872992]I thought Curt Warner did ok.[/quote]

I don't mean they do bad when I say "they don't make it". I'm referring to injury. All of the QBs under his offense end up injured. He believes in minimum pass protection.

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The only Washington coaching change i would make would be Danny Smith. I'm fond of him, but this year your unit was a joke.

I want the Shanahans to have more than 5 years to make this work. I'm patient with them.

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[quote=Mattyk;873036]Not sure what we need right now is a new offense to go along with our other issues. We tried that route a few years ago when Gibbs brought in Saunders in year 3 of his regime, that [COLOR="Red"]didn't work out so hot[/COLOR].[/quote]

What we have now isn't so hot either.
I'm not looking forward to seeing Cooley run the ball two downs in a row again.
:smashfrea

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[quote=Alvin Walton;873043]What we have now isn't so hot either.
I'm not looking forward to seeing Cooley run the ball two downs in a row again.
:smashfrea[/quote]

That was a little awkward, but i can appreciate them trying to incorporate him in the offense as a fullback. It just didnt work. I like their flexibility and willingness to try new things. IE: the late adoption of the pitch to the running back.

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[quote=Mattyk;873036]Not sure what we need right now is a new offense to go along with our other issues. We tried that route a few years ago when Gibbs brought in Saunders in year 3 of his regime,[B] that didn't work out so hot.[/B][/quote]

Saunders disagrees.
[IMG]http://misterirrelevant.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/saunders-cruise-and-katie.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS_S2nRRCmT4Qfa0UCRi93G_YpJUFY0ZQZnR0-lzUV5-FrZsOoc[/IMG][IMG]https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRhvILdhTsqt7JpPZX19s83CZDV_wQE50eHtI6d2U9afo0twGH6[/IMG]

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[quote=Giantone;872992]I thought Curt Warner did ok.[/quote]

You don't remember Warner being broken down and battered when he got to NY?

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[quote=Alvin Walton;873043]What we have now isn't so hot either.
I'm not looking forward to seeing Cooley run the ball two downs in a row again.
[/quote]

Well you definitely don't have to worry about that with Martz, he's got no use for fullbacks or tight ends.

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[quote=Ruhskins;873048]You don't remember Warner being broken down and battered when he got to NY?[/quote]

....I did'nt think he played to bad for us yet he did get hurt and in comes Eli but he did pretty well with the Cards after that .......he had a pretty good career as a QB and played for what 15 years? (not sure /asking)

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Here are some coaches that are available, maybe Shanahan might just take a look at.

Ron Zook- IDK and DC

Spaggs- Good D, should have done better with Rams IMO.

Jo Pa- Cant Remember if he was a D or O guy, maybe use him as a kicking coach for Gano

Washington University’s entire defensive coaching staff

Turner Gill- I wouldn’t mind seeing Rex run the option

Mike Martz- Would make a great Arena League OC.

Mike Sherman- Didn’t he used to be a good coach in the NFL, Packers maybe?

Jack Del Rio- Danny Smith replacement maybe?? Yeah come on.


BTW- Kurt Warner was the QB and Curt Warner was the old Seahawk running back. I think.

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If we're going to replace any coaches, I'd look first at Bob Slowik and Steve Jackson. I know you can only do so much with the the talent in front of you, but our secondary was terrible all year.

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[quote=GMScud;873057]If we're going to replace any coaches, I'd look first at Bob Slowik and Steve Jackson. I know you can only do so much with the the talent in front of you, but our secondary was terrible all year.[/quote]

This move is absolutely imperative for Shanny and FO to make, I believe. We cannot compete in shoot-out game with our offense, we need to slow down opponents' passing game, in order for us to stay competitive in games.

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So what's the latest on Bill Cowher? Haven't heard his name in a while.

Another guy who I think should get a look as a HC is Mike Zimmer. I saw they were mentioning him on SC earlier this morning. He's a damn good coach and a hell of a man. His players would lay in traffic for him, too. I know all the talk is about Dalton/AJ Green, but that team isn't in the playoffs without Zimmer's D.

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[quote=GMScud;873091]So what's the latest on Bill Cowher? Haven't heard his name in a while.

Another guy who I think should get a look as a HC is Mike Zimmer. I saw they were mentioning him on SC earlier this morning. He's a damn good coach and a hell of a man. His players would lay in traffic for him, too. I know all the talk is about Dalton/AJ Green, but that team isn't in the playoffs without Zimmer's D.[/quote]

I listen to SiriusXM NFL radio all the time and the guys who host are close with Cowher. They say he said he is not coming back to coach this year. End of story.

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[quote=SkinzWin;873116]I listen to SiriusXM NFL radio all the time and the guys who host are close with Cowher. They say he said he is not coming back to coach this year. End of story.[/quote]

I heard the same thing.

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[quote=SkinzWin;873116]I listen to SiriusXM NFL radio all the time and the guys who host are close with Cowher. They say he said he is not coming back to coach this year. End of story.[/quote]

The Dolphins reached out to him, apparently with a pretty sick offer. And yeah, he said no dice. Same for Gruden

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[quote=GMScud;873091]So what's the latest on Bill Cowher? Haven't heard his name in a while.

Another guy who I think should get a look as a HC is Mike Zimmer. I saw they were mentioning him on SC earlier this morning. He's a damn good coach and a hell of a man. His players would lay in traffic for him, too. I know all the talk is about Dalton/AJ Green, but that team isn't in the playoffs without Zimmer's D.[/quote]Feel bad about omitting Zimmer in my list of head coaching candidates in another thread. He's well cut out for that kind of promotion, something that not many defensive guys are. He's kind of like Mike Smith or Lovie Smith: has the mind to be an asset head coach.

My thing with defensive head coaches is that they tend to be too hands off with the offense. It's not like you want them calling plays for you on offense, but it's impossible to manage the game really well without being involved in the offensive game plan and the execution of it.

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;873054]Here are some coaches that are available, maybe Shanahan might just take a look at.

Ron Zook- IDK and DC

Spaggs- Good D, should have done better with Rams IMO.

Jo Pa- Cant Remember if he was a D or O guy, maybe use him as a kicking coach for Gano

Washington University’s entire defensive coaching staff

Turner Gill- I wouldn’t mind seeing Rex run the option

Mike Martz- Would make a great Arena League OC.

Mike Sherman- Didn’t he used to be a good coach in the NFL, Packers maybe?

Jack Del Rio- Danny Smith replacement maybe?? Yeah come on.


BTW- Kurt Warner was the QB and Curt Warner was the old Seahawk running back. I think.[/quote]

I don't know why when I think of Jack Del Rio I think of him as a LB coach not a ST's coach.

The Colts fired their ST's coach.

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You guys have probably heard Redskins met with Raheem Morris. Don't know anymore than that right now. He is a former DB coach and both Slowik and Jackson are on the hot seat.

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[quote=SmootSmack;873237]You guys have probably heard Redskins met with Raheem Morris. Don't know anymore than that right now. He is a former DB coach and both Slowik and Jackson are on the hot seat.[/quote]

I'd bring him in as a db coach. As has been said, Slowik and Jackson need to go.

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Head coach needs to pick his coaching staff - I think the redskins have a habit of picking a "dream team" of coaches; ones that may not necessarily be on the same page.

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So I got a little more info on Jackson. Apparently he's a candidate to return to his alma mater (Purdue) to be their defensive coordinator.

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[quote=SmootSmack;873308]So I got a little more info on Jackson. Apparently he's a candidate to return to his alma mater (Purdue) to be their defensive coordinator.[/quote]

Yeah, he needs to do that. I think taking Reed with him would be outstanding.

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[quote=SmootSmack;873237]You guys have probably heard Redskins met with Raheem Morris. Don't know anymore than that right now. He is a former DB coach and both Slowik and Jackson are on the hot seat.[/quote]

Morris would be a great hire I think.

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I think he would be great here, too. I wonder where they went to eat last night.

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[quote=Mattyk;873320]Morris would be a great hire I think.[/quote]

Heck of a young coaching stable with Kyle at OC and Raheem coaching DB's.

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[quote=Mattyk;873320]Morris would be a great hire I think.[/quote]

Agreed. Plus he has ties to Bruce Allen from his days in Tampa. I'd love to bring him to run the secondary.

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[quote=GMScud;873348]Agreed. Plus he has ties to Bruce Allen from his days in Tampa. I'd love to bring him to run the secondary.[/quote]

Ties to Kyle too

[url=http://www.sptimes.com/2005/02/28/Sports/Bucs_assistant_arrest.shtml]Sports: Bucs assistant arrested in Indy[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;873349]Ties to Kyle too

[url=http://www.sptimes.com/2005/02/28/Sports/Bucs_assistant_arrest.shtml]Sports: Bucs assistant arrested in Indy[/url][/quote]

totally see Kyle pulling the "do you know who I am?" routine. NFL royalty

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[quote=SmootSmack;873349]Ties to Kyle too

[URL="http://www.sptimes.com/2005/02/28/Sports/Bucs_assistant_arrest.shtml"]Sports: Bucs assistant arrested in Indy[/URL][/quote]

I remember this story. Didn't someone say a racial slur to Morris and Kyle was sticking up for him??

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[quote=GMScud;873091]So what's the latest on Bill Cowher? Haven't heard his name in a while.

Another guy who I think should get a look as a HC is Mike Zimmer. I saw they were mentioning him on SC earlier this morning. He's a damn good coach and a hell of a man. His players would lay in traffic for him, too. I know all the talk is about Dalton/AJ Green, but that team isn't in the playoffs without Zimmer's D.[/quote]

Love Zimmer. He was one funny, hard nosed SOB on Hard Knocks.