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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1118911]She's straight garbage. If you aren't going to do your job, fine. Step down.[/QUOTE]


She is straight garbage even if she does step down. The bible says "thou shall not judge". That unlike all this other stuff is clearly not up to interpretation. Another strait forward one is "love thy enemies ". I dont reall think the bible is anything but a good ole book, but time has clearly made a mess out of some of the scripture. Marriage back than was a business not born out of love and that has to be taken into consideration when these bible thumpers use it as a weapon.

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Love it

[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34145941]Kentucky clerk jailed for defying court orders on gay marriage - BBC News[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;1118868]So is the law she swore to uphold.[/quote]

I agree 100%

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[quote=punch it in;1118867][URL="http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/886102"]What Does The Bible Actually Say About Gay Marriage?*|*Lee Jefferson[/URL][/quote]
LOL.....
Huffington Post...Really? Maybe the Bleacher Report could weigh in on this as well.
If you have any desire to know the truth on the subject, read the actual passages. Won't take long and well....

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[QUOTE=Hog1;1118999]LOL.....
Huffington Post...Really? Maybe the Bleacher Report could weigh in on this as well.
If you have any desire to know the truth on the subject, read the actual passages. Won't take long and well....[/QUOTE]


Knew u were going to lol the source, but the article makes some good points.

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Legend:
1) I am not a Theologian.
2) I am....nobodies bible scholar
3) I am not even a....good Christian.....Damn!
But I do find this stuff interesting, and more.
Check this out Punch.
This is one that I thought was no nonsense. You can make up your own mind. There are many other sources. I like this as it uses the NIV (New International Version) and the EIV (English International Version). Both are considered to be accurate translations of the dead Sea Scrolls...
[URL="http://www.openbible.info/topics/same-sex_marriage"]What Does the Bible Say About Same-sex Marriage?[/URL]

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[quote=Hog1;1119045]Legend:
1) I am not a Theologian.
2) I am....nobodies bible scholar
3) I am not even a....good Christian.....Damn!
But I do find this stuff interesting, and more.
Check this out Punch.
This is one that I thought was no nonsense. You can make up your own mind. There are many other sources. I like this as it uses the NIV (New International Version) and the EIV (English International Version). Both are considered to be accurate translations of the dead Sea Scrolls...
[URL="http://www.openbible.info/topics/same-sex_marriage"]What Does the Bible Say About Same-sex Marriage?[/URL][/quote]

I think what some people find odd is the convenient interpretations of the bible. they'll get all up in arms bout dem gays, but no one rails on divorce, shellfish (an abomination), or holds stuff like this as gospel:

(Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)

If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.


so in some cases we've ignored or stopped following biblical tenets/laws (the global economy couldn't work if all loans were interest free, as another example), but then in other cases we've got to be super literal in our interpretation (which is a very modern invention).

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As a state employee, I say fuck that cunt bag. They shouldn't allow these people to recuse themselves(much like NC has done), they should do their job or resign. Simple as that. Maybe I'll go tell my boss I can't install this new equipment because my religion forbids me. Better yet, how about a Salafi Muslim worker at the DMV refusing to give women driver's license because they believed women shouldn't be driving. As Matty brought up prior, the hypocrisy of this woman to use religion as a convenience to suit her needs. She didn't give a fuck about religion when she was married 4 times. She didn't give a shit about it when she cheated on her husbands with the next guy. Yeah....fuck that cunt. That's all I got to say about her.


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Even better. The irony of many of these "christians" out there.

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[quote=That Guy;1119051]I think what some people find odd is the convenient interpretations of the bible. they'll get all up in arms bout dem gays, but no one rails on divorce, shellfish (an abomination), or holds stuff like this as gospel:

(Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)

If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.


so in some cases we've ignored or stopped following biblical tenets/laws (the global economy couldn't work if all loans were interest free, as another example), but then in other cases we've got to be super literal in our interpretation (which is a very modern invention).[/quote]

Do you have a point?

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[quote=NC_Skins;1119054]As a state employee, I say fuck that cunt bag. They shouldn't allow these people to recuse themselves(much like NC has done), they should do their job or resign. Simple as that. Maybe I'll go tell my boss I can't install this new equipment because my religion forbids me. Better yet, how about a Salafi Muslim worker at the DMV refusing to give women driver's license because they believed women shouldn't be driving. As Matty brought up prior, the hypocrisy of this woman to use religion as a convenience to suit her needs. She didn't give a fuck about religion when she was married 4 times. She didn't give a shit about it when she cheated on her husbands with the next guy. Yeah....fuck that cunt. That's all I got to say about her.


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Even better. The irony of many of these "christians" out there.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/FSn4pJN.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

You are.....way over complicating this...covering a lot of ground
She is just a crazy Fuck hiding behind religion.....
He is a crazy fuck....mass murderer that hid behind religion
Both are paying or have paid...have a nice day

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[QUOTE=Hog1;1119045]Legend:
1) I am not a Theologian.
2) I am....nobodies bible scholar
3) I am not even a....good Christian.....Damn!
But I do find this stuff interesting, and more.
Check this out Punch.
This is one that I thought was no nonsense. You can make up your own mind. There are many other sources. I like this as it uses the NIV (New International Version) and the EIV (English International Version). Both are considered to be accurate translations of the dead Sea Scrolls...
[URL="http://www.openbible.info/topics/same-sex_marriage"]What Does the Bible Say About Same-sex Marriage?[/URL][/QUOTE]


Yeah the interpretation thing sort of loses its luster I guess, maybe I just dont consider the bible to be the law? And how dare it condemn drunkards!! (Hiccup)

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[QUOTE=Hog1;1119078]Do you have a point?[/QUOTE]


I think that guy makes a damn good point. Basically some sins are ok and open to interpretation- especially ones that a bible thumper is guilty of. But when it is something like homosexuality in question, well that is just inexcusable. Alot of hypocrites out there that conveniently pick n chose when the bible means something.

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[quote=punch it in;1119082]I think that guy makes a damn good point. lBasically some sins are ok and open to interpretation- especially ones that bible thumper is guilty of. But when it is something like homosexuality in question, well that is just inexcusable. Alot of hypocrites out there that conveniently pick n chose when the bible means something.[/quote]suit

JMO, In a nutshell, you take the bible for what it says or not at all. Some denominations and individuals want to interpret and the redefine to......"fit" their lifestyle? Not an option
BTW, no sins are.....ok. Regardless of who is guilty of the sin.
Largely, it is not open to interpretation in this way. You basically don't get to go ala carte..... That sort of thing is frequently a perversion of the word that...one makes to suit their own purposes.

And again, like it or not, obey or not. The bible is quite specific on the subject of homosexuality and gay marriage.
Alas, have no fear. If this is what is troubling to you, just find a nice dude and settle down...

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[QUOTE=Hog1;1119084]suit



JMO, In a nutshell, you take the bible for what it says or not at all. Some denominations and individuals want to interpret and the redefine to......"fit" their lifestyle? Not an option

BTW, no sins are.....ok. Regardless of who is guilty of the sin.

Largely, it is not open to interpretation in this way. You basically don't get to go ala carte..... That sort of thing is frequently a perversion of the word that...one makes to suit their own purposes.



And again, like it or not, obey or not. The bible is quite specific on the subject of homosexuality and gay marriage.

Alas, have no fear. If this is what is troubling to you, just find a nice dude and settle down...[/QUOTE]


Hah!
Edit: just for the record Hog im not calling u a bible thumper. I know ur just pointing out the facts. The bible is very very old. I think if it was rewritten by God himself today that it could simply say....
"Dont be an asshole"
The end.

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[quote=Hog1;1119078]Do you have a point?[/quote]

yeah, I'm pretty sure it was clear, people use the bible as an excuse in a lot of places and say that we should follow it or that it's very specific re: gays like you have here, then ignore others (like you just did) when they bring up things like the bible's treatment of women as property, that rape is more or less okay, that we shouldn't be eating shellfish, or getting remarried (for the most part), etc.

you're the one saying you can't a la carte the bible, and i'm just pointing out that people do it all the time, and most christians don't follow biblical law in an awful lot of places.

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Which one are you?

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[QUOTE=Hog1;1119179]Which one are you?[/QUOTE]


Well i have a huge problem with any person or creature being enslaved and dont really care if you dress like a cowboy or hold a cowboys hand. So .... Ill go with silly questions for a million Alex. And the answer is "what is...the choice is obvious".

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You are wandering a bit afield. You may want to do a more thorough investigation (other than CS self serving snippets) of a document studied by millions from an Anthropological and Archaeological standpoint. Worshiped by hundreds of millions more.....of all races. If you actually read some of the passages you are citing, it would be.......enlightening.
But your choice.
Back to the point:
The Bible is very specific on gay marriage......

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[QUOTE=Hog1;1119182]You are wandering a bit afield. You may want to do a more thorough investigation (other than CS self serving snippets) of a document studied by millions from an Anthropological and Archaeological standpoint. Worshiped by hundreds of millions more.....of all races. If you actually read some of the passages you are citing, it would be.......enlightening.

But your choice.

Back to the point:

The Bible is very specific on gay marriage......[/QUOTE]


Already said ok it is specific now im just saying i dont give a shit. I have never been enslaved or gay. I can tell you one thing though, id welcome a god damned gay cowboy into my house before the bible thumping bitch from Kentucky.
Edit: i dont need to read some old outdated and hypocritical book to know what is rite and what is wrong. Ill leave that to the bible thumping hypocrites to do. Im quite comfortable with my moral makeup and awareness. Dont need to lean on the "supposed" word of God to do so. He has enough problems to worry about besides idiots like the criminally insane closet lesbian from Kentucky.

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[quote=punch it in;1119184][B]Already said ok it is specific now im just saying i dont give a shit.[/B] I have never been enslaved or gay. I can tell you one thing though, id welcome a god damned gay cowboy into my house before the bible thumping bitch from Kentucky.
Edit: i dont need to read some old outdated and hypocritical book to know what is rite and what is wrong. Ill leave that to the bible thumping hypocrites to do.[B] Im quite comfortable with my moral makeup and awareness. Dont need to lean on the "supposed" word of God to do so[/B]. He has enough problems to worry about besides idiots like the criminally insane closet lesbian from Kentucky.[/quote]
SEE, you cut right to the chase...good job!
AND, there are many more that feel just as you do...

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Ted Cruz and Mike Huckabee are the white versions of Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton, but do it when it comes to religion instead of race issues.



[url]https://gma.yahoo.com/huckabee-cruz-jockey-support-kentucky-county-clerk-kim-051836721--abc-news-topstories.html#[/url]



It's a shame people follow and support these low life pieces of shit who are trying to capitalize on social issues so they can ultimately get better TV/Book deals. These two fucktards know good and well they aren't going to win the election, they just use this time to up their value. A bunch of snake oil salesman.

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George nails it

[url=http://www.attn.com/stories/3093/george-takei-response-to-kim-davis]George Takei Attacks Kim Davis[/url]

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Interesting
[url=http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/30/kentucky-clerk-kim-davis-in-secret-meeting-with-pope-francis-report-says]Pope Francis met 'anti-gay' Kentucky clerk Kim Davis | US news | The Guardian[/url]

.....No comment
---Pope

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Yeah not so fast

[URL="https://www.yahoo.com/politics/the-real-story-behind-the-1269547693457462.html"]The real story behind the pope’s meeting with Kim Davis[/URL]

[url=http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/before-kim-davis-the-pope-hung-out-with-a-gay-couple/408718/]Pope Francis Met With a Gay Couple at the Vatican Before He Met Kim Davis During His Trip to the United States - The Atlantic[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;1123637]Yeah [B]not so fast[/B]

[URL="https://www.yahoo.com/politics/the-real-story-behind-the-1269547693457462.html"]The real story behind the pope’s meeting with Kim Davis[/URL]

[URL="http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/before-kim-davis-the-pope-hung-out-with-a-gay-couple/408718/"]Pope Francis Met With a Gay Couple at the Vatican Before He Met Kim Davis During His Trip to the United States - The Atlantic[/URL][/quote]

Funny...
I personally have no dog in this fight but you know what is...Strange???
Of the millions of people that could have been chosen to "meet and greet" the Pope..ster, Davis' is chosen to be on of the dozen......2 dozen....really?

Something else is.....afoot.

The private meeting between Davis, her husband, Joe, and the pope, which Davis’ attorney says took place at the Apostolic Nunciature (Vatican Embassy) in Washington, D.C. last Thursday? It didn’t happen. Instead, [B] Davis was one of “several dozen persons who had been invited by the Nunciature to greet [Pope Francis][/B] as he prepared to leave Washington for New York City,” Lombardi said in the statement.

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So the Pope/Vatican is lying or some country bumfuck bigot? I wonder.

No question they "met", but it surely didn't go down like she said.

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I am confident she lied...but 300m peeps in this country and fate rings her up out of the blue?
..........really?
SO, do you like win the Lotto about 4 times before that happens?
I am sure the Bumpkin is appropriate, but how did she get to be a bigot?

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[quote=Hog1;1123643]I am confident she lied...but 300m peeps in this country and fate rings her up out of the blue?
..........really?
SO, do you like win the Lotto about 4 times before that happens?
I am sure the Bumpkin is appropriate, but how did she get to be a bigot?[/quote]

you read the article right? she was chosen to be there by a guy in DC that isn't tied to the vatican staff. he's probably the one that wanted her there to use as political bait, but that doesn't mean the pope gives two sh*ts about her or her case, as he said in his press release. davis's scumbag lawyer is filling her head and lying (like the picture of people in peru which was a total fabrication) to get his and her name out in the public as much as possible for their own self interest .

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The Apostolic Nunciature of the Holy See to the United States is the diplomatic mission of the Holy See to the United States. It is located at 3339 Massachusetts Avenue Northwest, Washington, D.C., in the Embassy Row neighborhood.[1] The current Apostolic Nuncio is Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, who was named to the position by Pope Benedict XVI on 19 October 2011.

The Apostolic Nunciature to the United States of America is an ecclesiastical office of the Catholic Church in the United States, with the rank of an embassy. The nuncio serves both as the ambassador of the Holy See to the President of the United States, and as delegate and point-of-contact between the Catholic hierarchy in America and the Pope (as head of the church). The office of Apostolic Nuncio is currently always assigned to titular archbishops. The nunciature to the United States is considered a highly important post and therefore is normally filled by a very experienced Vatican diplomat; historically nuncios to the United States have often been elevated to the rank of Cardinal in consistory shortly after their service, and been given senior posts within the Vatican itself.

The Apostolic Nunciature is an administrative center of the Catholic Church in the United States. Communications from the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops and the various dioceses in the United States to the Holy See pass through the nunciature. The nuncio also fills a central role in the appointment of bishops to episcopal offices in the country, and is the official responsible for making the announcement of an episcopal appointment.



Instead, Davis was one of “several dozen persons who had been [B]invited by the Nunciature[/B] to greet [Pope Francis] as he prepared to leave Washington for New York City,” Lombardi said in the statement.

yes, I read the article. It appears the "nunci" is connected closely to the church...
It is just weird that given this broad's recent history that she is invited to meet with...himself