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JLee9718 12-23-2013 01:38 PM

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I'm amazed every week with the performance of the defense. Shanahan should have fired Haslet long ago. And why did Shanahan want a 34 defense in the first place?

Gary84Clark 12-23-2013 01:42 PM

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[quote=JLee9718;1050977]I think the QB question should be resolved by competition, not telling any new HC that RGIII is the franchise QB.[/quote]

It would be an easy competition seeing as Cousins is only average. Competition will be over after mini camp.

JLee9718 12-23-2013 01:45 PM

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I couldn't take another year of the Shanahans, especially Kyle and his weird play-calling.

GTripp0012 12-23-2013 01:48 PM

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1050900]I don't know maybe I have selective memory or maybe because I haven't watched every game this year, but that 2009 team was one of the worst performing and most poorly managed teams I remember. Zorn had almost no support from the players and it still seems like many still support(ed) Shanny before the cowboys game.[/quote]This is a 3-12 team. There are a lot of players in that locker room that need coaching stability in order to have a job next year.

Coaching turnover means player turnover. When you lose three quarters of your games, it's pretty easy to conclude that new players and new coaches are needed. It's a bit harder for those players and coaches to make that same conclusion.

KI Skins Fan 12-23-2013 02:35 PM

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Speaking of Griffin, those of you who saw the Ravens game yesterday may have noticed that Flacco was wearing a knee brace and he was throwing the ball too high to his receivers - just like Griffin did while wearing his own knee brace.

I believe that we'll see a much better version of RGIII when he is completely recovered from his knee injury, can shed the knee brace, and has a full off-season of working on his mechanics and his reads.

Plus, with Art Briles as his new HC, RGIII will be completely familiar with the offense.

Daseal 12-23-2013 02:50 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1050991]Speaking of Griffin, those of you who saw the Ravens game yesterday may have noticed that Flacco was wearing a knee brace and he was throwing the ball too high to his receivers - just like Griffin did while wearing his own knee brace.

I believe that we'll see a much better version of RGIII when he is completely recovered from his knee injury, can shed the knee brace, and has a full off-season of working on his mechanics and his reads.

Plus, with Art Briles as his new HC, RGIII will be completely familiar with the offense.[/quote]

I don't think there's any question that RG3 was not prepared to play this season. This injury takes quite some time to recover from, unless you're Adrian Peterson. I believe we'll see a stronger RG3 both physically and mentally next year. I feel his rookie season had little in the way of adversary and that he will be stronger for what he went through this season. I think sitting him down will ensure he gets a full offseason and taught him a valuable lesson in the importance of performing up to expectations.

redskins5044 12-23-2013 03:18 PM

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Hell no to Briles

Paintrain 12-23-2013 03:26 PM

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[quote=punch it in;1050975]Well if you are saying that our defense is not more of a priority than a complimentary wr to Garcon I think i am happy you are not our GM. Lol. I agree that we need one, but it is not our top priority.[/quote]
Not saying it is more of a priority but it's equally a priority. Other than Garcon we've got nothing NFL worthy at that position.

punch it in 12-23-2013 04:06 PM

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[QUOTE=Paintrain;1051005]Not saying it is more of a priority but it's equally a priority. Other than Garcon we've got nothing NFL worthy at that position.[/QUOTE]

Well we have Reed who is a hell of a receiver and like Matty said Robinson looks better. Plus Im still not giving up on Hank though most have. Ive seen this same offense light it up - the defense I have seen eff up game after game minus a few flashes of what resembles a real NFL unit.

DynamiteRave 12-23-2013 04:32 PM

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[quote=redskins5044;1051002]Hell no to Briles[/quote]

I bet we get Briles. Its almost always the last person people suspect and the first person people dislike.

MTK 12-23-2013 04:33 PM

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Briles isn't happening for a bunch of reasons.

Daseal 12-23-2013 04:37 PM

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[quote=punch it in;1051014]Well we have Reed who is a hell of a receiver and like Matty said Robinson looks better. Plus Im still not giving up on Hank though most have. Ive seen this same offense light it up - the defense I have seen eff up game after game minus a few flashes of what resembles a real NFL unit.[/quote]

The same Reed missing 7 weeks for a concussion? That's a basket I don't want to put all my eggs in.

The Goat 12-23-2013 04:41 PM

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We have a fantastic receive out of the backfield hardly gets work in Helu Jr. He should be putting up numbers like Vareen in NE. Helu still holds the Skins record for most catches in a game I believe. Our scheme/play-calling absolutely sucks at maximizing the talent on this roster.

skinsfan69 12-23-2013 04:53 PM

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[quote=RedskinRat;1050937]I'd like to see Megan Fox in my Cali King bed, we all have dreams......

What player in their right mind would come to such a disfunctional team? If they come they're here for a payday, nothing more.

Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk[/quote]

You have a solid point. Plus he has Manning throwing him the ball. If I were him I wouldn't come here.

Jayroc24 12-23-2013 05:01 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;1051022]Briles isn't happening for a bunch of reasons.[/quote]

Thank God!

Paintrain 12-23-2013 05:27 PM

Re: Boyz vs. Skins Post-Game Dread
 
[quote=punch it in;1051014]Well we have Reed who is a hell of a receiver and like Matty said Robinson looks better. Plus Im still not giving up on Hank though most have. Ive seen this same offense light it up - the defense I have seen eff up game after game minus a few flashes of what resembles a real NFL unit.[/quote]

I hope more than ever that Reed can come back 100% because I think he's gonna be a star, but he's a TE. Hankerson hasn't shown that he can be a threat to defenses, he's a #4 WR, Robinson is a #4 at best also.

Don't get me wrong, the defense is in need of major repair but we still have the weakest WR group in the division by far (assuming a healthy Nicks and Cruz in NY) and in a passing league, we need to address this long existing issue.

skinsfan69 12-23-2013 05:28 PM

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1050991]Speaking of Griffin, those of you who saw the Ravens game yesterday may have noticed that Flacco was wearing a knee brace and he was throwing the ball too high to his receivers - just like Griffin did while wearing his own knee brace.

I believe that we'll see a much better version of RGIII when he is completely recovered from his knee injury, can shed the knee brace, and has a full off-season of working on his mechanics and his reads.

Plus, with Art Briles as his new HC, RGIII will be completely familiar with the offense.[/

I do think we'll see a better Griff too but the knee brace does not make a QB throw high. Both Manning and Brady wear one.

BigHairedAristocrat 12-23-2013 05:30 PM

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There is zero chance art broyles comes here. RGIII is very concerned about his image now. He knows it would look like he was a diva who threw out his old coach to bring in a coach of his chosing.

Chico23231 12-23-2013 05:58 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1051039]There is zero chance [B]art broyles[/B] comes here. RGIII is very concerned about his image now. He knows it would look like he was a diva who threw out his old coach to bring in a coach of his chosing.[/quote]

Is this the mystery candidate SS, some guy name Broyles?

DynamiteRave 12-23-2013 06:06 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1051044]Is this the mystery candidate SS, some guy name Broyles?[/quote]

Is Broyles the same guy who brought us Armstong a couple seasons ago?

KI Skins Fan 12-23-2013 07:15 PM

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I just mentioned Art Broyles, er, I mean Briles, to mess with you guys. I see your reflexes are as good as ever.

punch it in 12-23-2013 07:35 PM

[QUOTE=The Goat;1051028]We have a fantastic receive out of the backfield hardly gets work in Helu Jr. He should be putting up numbers like Vareen in NE. Helu still holds the Skins record for most catches in a game I believe. Our scheme/play-calling absolutely sucks at maximizing the talent on this roster.[/QUOTE]

Plus Almo to open up the passing game. I agree Goat , and throw in a swiss cheese oline and it dont matter how many weapons we have. Solid pass protection coupled with solid scheme/playcalling can do wonders for the guys already in the skill positions on this team.

GTripp0012 12-23-2013 07:42 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1051039]There is zero chance art broyles comes here. RGIII is very concerned about his image now. He knows it would look like he was a diva who threw out his old coach to bring in a coach of his chosing.[/quote]And we should thank him for it.

skinsfaninok 12-23-2013 07:52 PM

[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1051046]Is Broyles the same guy who brought us Armstong a couple seasons ago?[/QUOTE]

Lmao

BaltimoreSkins 12-23-2013 11:30 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;1050981]This is a 3-12 team. There are a lot of players in that locker room that need coaching stability in order to have a job next year.

Coaching turnover means player turnover. When you lose three quarters of your games, it's pretty easy to conclude that new players and new coaches are needed. It's a bit harder for those players and coaches to make that same conclusion.[/quote]

Very true I still think 2009 was worse. Unlike then I see a potential franchise player at the most important position, as well as youth at wr and rb. Not to mention no albatross contracts that we are currently regretting.

punch it in 12-24-2013 11:00 AM

[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1051108]Very true I still think 2009 was worse. Unlike then I see a potential franchise player at the most important position, as well as youth at wr and rb. Not to mention no albatross contracts that we are currently regretting.[/QUOTE]

I see nine or ten players I would like to have back, and zero coaches I would like to have back. I still pin my hopes on RG-3 but I have my doubts now as opposed to last year. All things considered this is a lifelong low as a Skins fan, and thats 36 years of rooting for them. Not sure it gets worse than this imo.

Bucket 12-24-2013 01:46 PM

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I still don't understand how people label RG3 a diva? He's required to talk to the Media. He says what the PR tells him to say 95% of the time.

KI Skins Fan 12-24-2013 02:52 PM

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[quote=punch it in;1051160]I see nine or ten players I would like to have back, and zero coaches I would like to have back. I still pin my hopes on RG-3 but I have my doubts now as opposed to last year. All things considered this is a lifelong low as a Skins fan, and thats 36 years of rooting for them. Not sure it gets worse than this imo.[/quote]

I count ten players who I would like to have back on IR alone. There are about 30 players total that I'd like to keep. Some are starters, some are reserves, and a few are developing players. We'll keep more than that because it's just not realistic to think that we can fill 23 roster spots in one off-season.

skinsfaninok 12-24-2013 03:07 PM

[QUOTE=Bucket;1051195]I still don't understand how people label RG3 a diva? He's required to talk to the Media. He says what the PR tells him to say 95% of the time.[/QUOTE]

The fact that some skins fans hate the guy now is beyond me

htownskinfan 12-24-2013 04:09 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1051201]The fact that some skins fans hate the guy now is beyond me[/quote]

Where are you seeing that? Im not seeing that anywhere on this forum? Are there people expressing doubts about him,why yes they are but thats a long way from hating the guy

skinsfaninok 12-24-2013 04:13 PM

[QUOTE=htownskinfan;1051206]Where are you seeing that? Im not seeing that anywhere on this forum? Are there people expressing doubts about him,why yes they are but thats a long way from hating the guy[/QUOTE]

Not here but I've seen it on others

htownskinfan 12-24-2013 04:16 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1051208]Not here but I've seen it on others[/quote]

Well they are idiots.How can you hate the guy who played lights out last yr and took us to the playoffs?I have expressed my doubts about him but to hate him is just plain stupid

MTK 12-24-2013 04:37 PM

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[quote=htownskinfan;1051206]Where are you seeing that? Im not seeing that anywhere on this forum? Are there people expressing doubts about him,why yes they are but thats a long way from hating the guy[/quote]

Look a little harder.

The Goat 12-24-2013 06:46 PM

Re: Boyz vs. Skins Post-Game Dread
 
[quote=punch it in;1051160]I see nine or ten players I would like to have back, and zero coaches I would like to have back. I still pin my hopes on RG-3 but I have my doubts now as opposed to last year. All things considered this is a lifelong low as a Skins fan, and thats 36 years of rooting for them. Not sure it gets worse than this imo.[/quote]

C'mon my man, you can do better than 10 players.

RG
Morris
Helu
Young
Trent
Garçon
Davis
Reed

All legit starters on offense. Give Hankerson another chance in a new offense (he holds most of the records at the U, there's talent there).

Kerrigan
Cofield
Jenkins
Rak
Riley
Jackson
Amerson
Hall
Merriweather or Jackson at safety.

I got to 17 or 18 pretty easy. Those are legit starters. We need to add a few starters and depth, and more depth.

But there's a lot to work with here.

DynamiteRave 12-24-2013 07:07 PM

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It seems as if they're never going to reinstate Jackson and Meriweather is f'ing garbage.

GTripp0012 12-24-2013 07:23 PM

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[quote=The Goat;1051217]C'mon my man, you can do better than 10 players.

RG
Morris
Helu
Young
Trent
Garçon
Davis
Reed

All legit starters on offense. Give Hankerson another chance in a new offense (he holds most of the records at the U, there's talent there).

Kerrigan
Cofield
Jenkins
Rak
Riley
Jackson
Amerson
Hall
Merriweather or Jackson at safety.

I got to 17 or 18 pretty easy. Those are legit starters. We need to add a few starters and depth, and more depth.

But there's a lot to work with here.[/quote]Thats about 1/3 of the roster which seems about right.

Amerson is promising in the current system, but I wouldn't be shocked if we get a new defensive scheme and he never becomes a major contributor for us.

GTripp0012 12-24-2013 07:26 PM

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Some of that top third is going to go play elsewhere just because of new coaches decision. Just because we have 17 NFL caliber players on a 53 man roster doesn't mean all 17 will or should be back. There's give or take 10 guys who will be big contributors for this team in the future acquired under four years of Shanahan.

skinsfaninok 12-24-2013 07:39 PM

[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1051219]It seems as if they're never going to reinstate Jackson and Meriweather is f'ing garbage.[/QUOTE]

Bm sucks ass get rid of him

punch it in 12-25-2013 01:41 AM

[QUOTE=Bucket;1051195]I still don't understand how people label RG3 a diva? He's required to talk to the Media. He says what the PR tells him to say 95% of the time.[/QUOTE]

I agree. He is only a "diva" when he doesnt play well. Last year he was a savior. Lol

punch it in 12-25-2013 01:44 AM

[QUOTE=The Goat;1051217]C'mon my man, you can do better than 10 players.

RG
Morris
Helu
Young
Trent
Garçon
Davis
Reed

All legit starters on offense. Give Hankerson another chance in a new offense (he holds most of the records at the U, there's talent there).

Kerrigan
Cofield
Jenkins
Rak
Riley
Jackson
Amerson
Hall
Merriweather or Jackson at safety.

I got to 17 or 18 pretty easy. Those are legit starters. We need to add a few starters and depth, and more depth.

But there's a lot to work with here.[/QUOTE]

That was the bitter me, of course there are more than ten but there are truely about ten that i have complete faith in. I realize no team has studs from top to bottom. I was really just venting about this horrible season.


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