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[quote=NC_Skins;1057273]I suggest you look at those drafts during that time. Complete garbage. Ask Raheem Morris. He inherited that shit team.[/quote]

Well as Director of Pro Scouting the responsibilities were more free agency/evaluating players in the NFL vs. draft evaluations. Also, I'm pretty sure he's not being hired as director of football operations or anything. He will have a role and a voice but I doubt it will be one of significant influence over the roster.

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For those starting to get RG3 fatigue, this is a pretty good article from Rich Tandler at CSN Washington..

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/are-redskins-focusing-too-much-rg3]Are the Redskins focusing too much on RG3? | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/url]

This quote pretty much sums things up:
[quote=Rich Tandler]The completely RG3-centric world exists only outside of Redskins Park. Don’t confuse those in the media who are focused on Griffin (mostly because that is what their readers want) with the actual goings on at the team headquarters. [/quote]

I had some discussions with non Redskins fans during all of the RG3 leaks because they were buying into everything being tossed out there by the national guys. I told them if it doesn't come from or isn't confirmed by John Keim, Mike Jones, Mark Maske, Tarik al-Bashir, Rich Tandler, Chris Russell, etc., those who are in the locker room and Park every day, I don't give it as much credence.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1057187][url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000316562/article/gruden-making-rgiii-a-pocket-passer-would-be-foolish]Jay Gruden: 'Foolish' to make RGIII a pocket passer - NFL.com[/url]




So, he wants to use RGIII in a way that Shanahan did, which Robert absolutely hated. RGIII wants to be a pocket passer, and he hated the read option plays. Now you have a coach who's already not on the same page as his "franchise" QB in terms of direction. This is going to be a cluster fuck.


What the hell is with bringing all these guys in from Tampa Bay. Doug Williams? What exactly about his career (beyond player) as a coach/personnel guy that makes him qualified to be in this organization. We are NOT going in the right direction.[/quote]

but then there is [URL="http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/gruden-wants-develop-griffin-drop-back-passer"]this[/URL]:

[quote]Now, a few days later, we hear Gruden singing a different tune.

"My goal in training camp is to see how much he can develop as a drop-back passer," Gruden told Dan Pompei on the Sports on Earth website. "Obviously he can do the rollouts and the naked bootlegs and all that. But let's see what he can do from the pocket, and if he can run from there, that's when he'll really get a lot of yards."

OK, then.

According to Pompei, Gruden still wants Griffin to run, but more as a last resort than as a first resort.

"It's a long season," Gruden said. "It's a 16-game grind. You don't want him getting hit 15, 20 times a game on read options. You have to keep your stars healthy. You don't want to put him at risk too much. But that's who he is. It's what he is as a quarterback. He's very effective in that regard."

The read-option plays that helped Griffin earn virtually all of the major 2012 offensive rookie of the year awards will stay in the playbook—Gruden’s version of them, anyway—but they will be used very sparingly.

"I don't anticipate running a lot of read option," Gruden said. "I think if you use it three or four times a game, you'll have more success than if you try to feature your whole offense around it. It's not just tough on the quarterback taking hits, it's tough on the tackles with their aiming points, where are they going. It's something you have to practice a lot to get very good at."[/quote]

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1057273]I suggest you look at those drafts during that time. Complete garbage. Ask Raheem Morris. He inherited that shit team.[/QUOTE]

Lmao yeah people act like the bucs were loaded or something

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Bucs did go 10-6 one year that Morris was the coach....just sayin'

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[quote=NC_Skins;1057273]I suggest you look at those drafts during that time. Complete garbage. Ask Raheem Morris. He inherited that shit team.[/quote]

As Paintrain said, Doug Williams was involved in evaluating free agents and was not involved in the draft.

Further, he didn't have a decision-making role in Tampa, so any personnel gaffes cannot be pinned solely on him.

[quote]After returning to Tampa to work under then-Bucs general manager Allen in 2004, Williams hoped he was on a path that would lead to a GM post. But he often met resistance when seeking an expanded role in the front office, causing frequent frustration. That continued under Dominik, after Allen was fired in January 2009. Williams' role was mainly evaluating free agents and other possible acquisitions, but he did not appear to be involved in decision making.[/quote]

[url=http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/doug-williams-tampa-bay-buccaneers-split-for-a-second-time/1094335]Doug Williams, Tampa Bay Buccaneers split for a second time | Tampa Bay Times[/url]

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Amazing Brent got only 180 days in jail today after killing someone. Great country.

[QUOTE=Chico23231;1057310]Amazing Brent got only 180 days in jail today after killing someone. Great country.[/QUOTE]

If that was me or u we would do 5 years minimum

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[quote=NC_Skins;1057265]Well his quote that trying to make RGIII a pocket passer is foolish doesn't square with what RGIII has in mind. This is what I'm referring to, not that we'll be running the RO often. Look, I've been hearing tweets from LL/httr24-7 even from 2012 about how Robert wanted to be known as a pocket passer and he wasn't down with using him as a runner. Something doesn't give here between the quote and RGIII wishes.[/quote]Griffin hated how limited the offense was under Kyle Shanahan, and didn't want to get hit because the offense wasn't going to evolve with those players/coaches. Every quarterback everywhere would gladly get plastered if it meant he would throw the game winning touchdown pass. Robert would gladly run/take hits as part of a dynamic offense that featured great talent. I don't think that makes him unique or a frontrunner.

What no quarterback wants to do is get beat to a pulp because an offense lacks creativity or aspiration. You can lose without putting your health on the line. It's not going to be some great undertaking to get Griffin to buy into modern offense under Gruden/McVay. You just have to show him competence. He'll run aggressively and passionately if he thinks there's a purpose beyond just getting hit. Under Kyle Shanahan, that wasn't the case. The read option wasn't being used as a means to an end. It was the featured, defining play of the rushing attack on a team that couldn't throw the ball.

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[quote=Chico23231;1057310]Amazing Brent got only 180 days in jail today after killing someone. Great country.[/quote]

Yeah that is frickin unbelievable!! 180 days,give me a break

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[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10341938/mike-pettine-daughter-learned-valuable-lesson-cleveland-browns-tweet]Mike Pettine's daughter learned valuable lesson from Cleveland Browns tweet - ESPN[/url]

damn browns lol

Anyone seen the 3 year old girl that knows the Seahawks whole roster??? Amazing

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[quote=Chico23231;1057310]Amazing Brent got only 180 days in jail today after killing someone. Great country.[/quote]

I wonder if his lawyer used the "affluenza" defense too. It's embarrassing. Way to "set the example" Texas.

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Staff is set

[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/redskins-watch/2014/jan/25/randy-jordan-hired-redskins-running-backs-coach/]Randy Jordan hired as Redskins' running backs coach - Washington Times[/url]

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Randy Jordan coached Roy Helu Jr. his Freshman year. He has coached under west coach's Bill Callahan, Mike Sherman, and Mack Brown. He can develop young talent, having some success in college.

Notable running backs coached Mike Goodson, Cyrus Gray, and Giovani Bernard.
Jackson's running backs have been versatile weapons able to run and catch out of the backfield.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1056660]I mean the teams went in different directions for many reasons.

1. They are loaded with talent we r not
2. Pete Carroll has done a great job with this team and they love the guy, obviously ms didn't get that same treatment.
3. RW didn't have a horrible knee injury and miss all OS.
4. They have a dominant set of DBs, ours are as bad as it gets with Wilson starting.
5. Injuries killed us this yr, who was their big injury? Nobody[/quote]Seattle was not loaded before Pete Carroll and John Schneider arrived in 2010. They have done a much better job with the draft than Shanahan and Allen have. They only used one high draft choice on their excellent defensive backfield, Earl Thomas in the first round. Richard Sherman and Kam Chancellor were both 5th round picks.
Saying that they had no injuries is also inaccurate considering that their top FA pickup, Percy Harvin, essentially missed the entire year. Bottom line, they've built the right way - excellent drafting and player development. They had a blueprint and stuck with it. I fear that this offseason will be a return of free spending like there is no tomorrow around here. That is no way to sustain success, as Snyder has proven over and over again.

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[quote=Mattyk;1057477]Staff is set

[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/redskins-watch/2014/jan/25/randy-jordan-hired-redskins-running-backs-coach/]Randy Jordan hired as Redskins' running backs coach - Washington Times[/url][/quote]

Who was hired as Special Teams Coordinator?

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[quote=Monkeydad;1057550]Who was hired as Special Teams Coordinator?[/quote]
[U][COLOR=#000080]Ben Kotwica[/COLOR][/U]

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[quote=SouperMeister;1057495]Seattle was not loaded before Pete Carroll and John Schneider arrived in 2010. They have done a much better job with the draft than Shanahan and Allen have. They only used one high draft choice on their excellent defensive backfield, Earl Thomas in the first round. Richard Sherman and Kam Chancellor were both 5th round picks.
Saying that they had no injuries is also inaccurate considering that their top FA pickup, Percy Harvin, essentially missed the entire year. Bottom line, they've built the right way - excellent drafting and player development. They had a blueprint and stuck with it. I fear that this offseason will be a return of free spending like there is no tomorrow around here. That is no way to sustain success, as Snyder has proven over and over again.[/quote]

There's a big difference between Harvin's injury and RG3's injury. Seattle is defensive team, whose main offensive threat is the Lynch's running game. Seattle is not a passing team nor are they an "offensive juggernaut" (thanks to their defense) that could be easily affected by the loss of a WR.

Seattle has had their hits and misses just like any other team, they've just been fortunate in some aspects.

People forget how they paid $26 mil for Matt Flynn and didn't work out. They were lucky they had a competent starter in Wilson, otherwise they would have been up the creek without a paddle in terms of QBs.

Seattle has been fortunate that Marshawn Lynch worked out for them at all, after having such difficulties in Buffalo. He is their number one offensive weapon and one of the reasons they made the playoffs last year and this year.

They've done a good job in the past two drafts and have gotten good production out of low rounders. But they've been fortunate in other areas and haven't suffered through some of the catastrophes the Redskins have had to deal with (RG3 injury/cap penalty, etc., etc.).

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[quote=mredskins;1057556][U][COLOR=#000080]Ben Kotwica[/COLOR][/U][/quote]

Thanks.


Great resume here:

[url=http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Ben-Kotwica-Brought-In-For-Special-Teams/307f42fa-6d39-41ad-823d-0db238bf2d4c]Ben Kotwica Brought In For Special Teams[/url]

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[quote=Ruhskins;1057567]There's a big difference between Harvin's injury and RG3's injury. Seattle is defensive team, whose main offensive threat is the Lynch's running game. Seattle is not a passing team nor are they an "offensive juggernaut" (thanks to their defense) that could be easily affected by the loss of a WR.

Seattle has had their hits and misses just like any other team, they've just been fortunate in some aspects.

[B]People forget how they paid $26 mil for Matt Flynn and didn't work out. They were lucky they had a competent starter in Wilson, otherwise they would have been up the creek without a paddle in terms of QBs. [/B]

Seattle has been fortunate that Marshawn Lynch worked out for them at all, after having such difficulties in Buffalo. He is their number one offensive weapon and one of the reasons they made the playoffs last year and this year.

They've done a good job in the past two drafts and have gotten good production out of low rounders. But they've been fortunate in other areas and haven't suffered through some of the catastrophes the Redskins have had to deal with (RG3 injury/cap penalty, etc., etc.).[/quote]

How were they lucky? You act as though they picked Wilson up off of the street. He was a drafted player and there was competition for the job. Wilson won the job because he was better than Flynn. There are no politics in Seattle. Carroll preaches competition and Wilson won that competition.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1057604]How were they lucky? You act as though they picked Wilson up off of the street. He was a drafted player and there was competition for the job. Wilson won the job because he was better than Flynn. There are no politics in Seattle. Carroll preaches competition and Wilson won that competition.[/quote]

Yes, but people act like Pete Carroll and his GM are flawless. Just pointing out that they made a mistake with Flynn and they were lucky that Wilson (a 3rd rounder) worked out the way he did. I'm sure Carroll thought of Wilson as their QB of the future and Flynn as the short term solution. Luckily, their QB of the future was able to play very well.

When our team f*cked up and got a FA QB (McNabb) who sucked, we were not so lucky.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1057610]Yes, but people act like Pete Carroll and his GM are flawless. Just pointing out that they made a mistake with Flynn and they were lucky that Wilson (a 3rd rounder) worked out the way he did. I'm sure Carroll thought of Wilson as their QB of the future and Flynn as the short term solution. Luckily, their QB of the future was able to play very well.

When our team f*cked up and got a FA QB (McNabb) who sucked, we were not so lucky.[/quote]

They were lucky he lasted until the 3rd round.

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Saw this thought it was a nice read. [url=http://walkingdeadmanblog.blogspot.com/2014/01/thoughts-on-jay-gruden-coaching-staff.html#more]IT IS WHAT IT IS...........: Thoughts On Jay Gruden & The Coaching Staff[/url]

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1057620]Saw this thought it was a nice read. [url=http://walkingdeadmanblog.blogspot.com/2014/01/thoughts-on-jay-gruden-coaching-staff.html#more]IT IS WHAT IT IS...........: Thoughts On Jay Gruden & The Coaching Staff[/url][/quote]

Pretty damning indictment that exactly none of the coaches we fired are even in the NFL as position coaches this upcoming season. I think Matt LaFluer is the the only coach who got a job and he's a college position coach.

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More Wild Card Games likely to happen in 2015. What a horrible idea. We're going to start seeing teams with 8-8 and 7-9 records making the playoffs.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1057627]More Wild Card Games likely to happen in 2015. What a horrible idea. We're going to start seeing teams with 8-8 and 7-9 records making the playoffs.[/quote]

we have already seen it....

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1057620]Saw this thought it was a nice read. [url=http://walkingdeadmanblog.blogspot.com/2014/01/thoughts-on-jay-gruden-coaching-staff.html#more]IT IS WHAT IT IS...........: Thoughts On Jay Gruden & The Coaching Staff[/url][/quote]

We are in the honeymoon phase.

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[quote=SouperMeister;1057495]Seattle was not loaded before Pete Carroll and John Schneider arrived in 2010. They have done a much better job with the draft than Shanahan and Allen have. They only used one high draft choice on their excellent defensive backfield, Earl Thomas in the first round. Richard Sherman and Kam Chancellor were both 5th round picks.
Saying that they had no injuries is also inaccurate considering that their top FA pickup, Percy Harvin, essentially missed the entire year. Bottom line, they've built the right way - excellent drafting and player development. They had a blueprint and stuck with it. I fear that this offseason will be a return of free spending like there is no tomorrow around here. That is no way to sustain success, as Snyder has proven over and over again.[/quote]

Seattle actually let their low round picks play, not lock them on the practice squad or in the doghouse for coachable mistakes,
Shanny wasn't into preparing a team to compete, most of the opening games of the 4 seasons he was here were played poorly,their games after the bye week were always terrible, he didn't do a great job here of coaching and grooming young players, that's why he preferred veterans.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1057627]More Wild Card Games likely to happen in 2015. What a horrible idea. We're going to start seeing teams with 8-8 and 7-9 records making the playoffs.[/quote]

How do you feel about the championship games being on Saturday and Sunday night (or Monday night)?

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An extra wild card also would have meant a deserving team like the Cardinals could have gotten in this year. So it can go both ways.

I say why not? 14 teams out of 32 isn't a bad ratio. I'd rather add more playoff games than regular season games.

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The main change I want to see is re-seeding the playoffs based on overall record.

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[quote=Mattyk;1057647]The main change I want to see is re-seeding the playoffs based on overall record.[/quote]

This

[QUOTE=Mattyk;1057646]An extra wild card also would have meant a deserving team like the Cardinals could have gotten in this year. So it can go both ways.

I say why not? 14 teams out of 32 isn't a bad ratio. I'd rather add more playoff games than regular season games.[/QUOTE]

I agree

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;1057644]How do you feel about the championship games being on Saturday and Sunday night (or Monday night)?[/QUOTE]

What do u mean champ games? Like Conf? Or division

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[quote=SmootSmack;1057644]How do you feel about the championship games being on Saturday and Sunday night (or Monday night)?[/quote]


Sunday or Saturday is fine with me but not a weeknight ,just way too much going on .

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1057652]What do u mean champ games? Like Conf? Or division[/quote]

Conf champ, one on each night

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[quote=SmootSmack;1057644]How do you feel about the championship games being on Saturday and Sunday night (or Monday night)?[/quote]

I don't mind the sat and sun night games.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1057627]More Wild Card Games likely to happen in 2015. What a horrible idea. We're going to start seeing teams with 8-8 and 7-9 records making the playoffs.[/quote]

I agree. i hate the idea of playoff expansion and the idea of more regular season games.

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As far as I'm concerned, more football = YAY for me.

I know people are worried it'll be a slippery slope, but 1-2 extra games is awesome in my opinion. Not only that, when we're a crap team, we're not mathematically eliminated until way later. :D