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[QUOTE=rocnrik;1124387]Hmmmm..its weird on here..nobody is calling for Gruden to be fired, no Rglll drama….am i at the correct forum?[/QUOTE]


Wait until next week

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[quote=rocnrik;1124387]Hmmmm..its weird on here..nobody is calling for Gruden to be fired, no Rglll drama….am i at the correct forum?[/quote]

Question 3.
Homer Simpson.
Nazis.
Pie.




Yes.

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[quote=punch it in;1124366]Take away the 42 yard run by CT and we averaged under 3 ypc. We ran just enough to keep their d honest and we moved the ball consistently with the pass. Stop the abandoned the run talk. It wasnt working.[/quote]

If the run kept their defense honest in the pass game, then it was working. Had Jay not ran in that last drive, we never go 90 yards and lose the game. We dont have Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers, if defenses do nothing but play pass against us, we dont have a QB on the roster that is going to win games with just the passing game.

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[quote=Mattyk;1124388]Wait until next week[/quote]

And if we win again?

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[quote=rocnrik;1124387]Hmmmm..its weird on here..nobody is calling for Gruden to be fired, no Rglll drama….am i at the correct forum?[/quote]

Ha funny. I wonder if McC and Jay had a meeting about that garbage performance Thursday night? It was good to see the team playing more like the the from the first two games than the Thursday night game. But if we do lose to Atlanta this Sunday, I'm sure gruden won't have anything to do with it.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1124391]And if we win again?[/quote]

Many strapping young men will partake in the elixir known as - "Kool Aid".

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[quote=Mattyk;1124388]Wait until next week[/quote]

it'll be better since we will pull the upset

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We will not beat atlanta..BUT I am okay with that!! Atlanta is a top 3 team in the NFC right now..I want us to beat the teams we are supposed to..lets look at schedule.we are 2-2 now
@Atl.. loss
@jets.. toss up
TB..win
@NE..loss
NO..win
@car..toss up
Giants..win (huge game)
Cowpukes..win (huge game)
@chi..win
buff..toss up
@filthy..win (huge game)
@cowpukes..the season will come down to this game!!

so we are 2-2 now ..we are looking at 2 teams we should not win..3 toss up games..3 we should win..the 4 division games are huge and we all know how those games go..so there is my take!

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1124391]And if we win again?[/quote]

oh just give it time, it's a guarantee that people lose their shit after a loss

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[quote=rocnrik;1124395]We will not beat atlanta..BUT I am okay with that!! Atlanta is a top 3 team in the NFC right now..I want us to beat the teams we are supposed to..lets look at schedule.we are 2-2 now
@Atl.. loss
@jets.. toss up
TB..win
@NE..loss
NO..win
@car..toss up
Giants..win (huge game)
Cowpukes..win (huge game)
@chi..win
buff..toss up
@filthy..win (huge game)
@cowpukes..the season will come down to this game!!

so we are 2-2 now ..we are looking at 2 teams we should not win..3 toss up games..3 we should win..the 4 division games are huge and we all know how those games go..so there is my take![/quote]

At this juncture I am not sure I would consider @Carolina a toss up.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1124394]it'll be better since we will pull the upset[/quote]

If Atlanta is smart they will pay heed to what Admiral Akbar famously said.

U know, I hope the rat doesn't show up to see his son coach.

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I don't see y some think we have no chance. Yes they r good but they aren't going undefeated and the skins are bound to win a big road game eventually. I think in the dome on the turf if Djax is back we can really hit some big plays

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[quote=Chico23231;1124392]Ha funny. I wonder if McC and Jay had a meeting about that garbage performance Thursday night? It was good to see the team playing more like the the from the first two games than the Thursday night game. But if we do lose to Atlanta this Sunday, I'm sure gruden won't have anything to do with it.[/quote]

Atlanta has beaten the other teams in the NFC East. I don't know that Gruden won't have his share in a loss, but realistically, we just aren't as good a team as Atlanta is right now. Their strongest weapon is pointed straight at our weakest defensive link... Even still, I would love us to pull off the upset.

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[quote=Chico23231;1124399]If Atlanta is smart they will pay heed to what Admiral Akbar famously said.

U know, I hope the rat doesn't show up to see his son coach.[/quote]

wow just thought, what if they have Polumbus Chester and Hankerson as their offensive captains at the toin coss. OH NOOOOO

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[quote=rocnrik;1124395][B]We will not beat atlanta[/B]..BUT I am okay with that!! Atlanta is a top 3 team in the NFC right now..I want us to beat the teams we are supposed to..lets look at schedule.we are 2-2 now
@Atl.. loss
@jets.. toss up
TB..win
@NE..loss
NO..win
@car..toss up
Giants..win (huge game)
Cowpukes..win (huge game)
@chi..win
buff..toss up
@filthy..win (huge game)
@cowpukes..the season will come down to this game!!

so we are 2-2 now ..we are looking at 2 teams we should not win..3 toss up games..3 we should win..the 4 division games are huge and we all know how those games go..so there is my take![/quote]

Many , if not most held the same opinion about the R's and the Eagles as well.......
Atlanta is a better quality team, but. Any Sunday..............
That's why we play the game!
Thank you Herm

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1124402]Atlanta has beaten the other teams in the NFC East. I don't know that Gruden won't have his share in a loss, but realistically, we just aren't as good a team as Atlanta is right now. Their strongest weapon is pointed straight at our weakest defensive link... Even still, I would love us to pull off the upset.[/quote]

Atlanta was a double digit loser last year...yes playing well off the bat, hell, ESPN is running an article today calling them a Super Bowl contender after 4 games. Yes qb and receiver are awesome and that's big. I'd say they are better, obviously do to their record. Talent on defense? Meh. Oh Vic Beasley has shut up the doubters...quick too. Guy is good. Oline? Meh. We should be able to move them around.

Our biggest problem will be handling their passing game...tall order. Can't give up the big plays...Trent Robinson/goldson need to rebound from poor games last week. Can't let Matt Ryan stand tall in the pocket...got to move him

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[quote=Hog1;1124405]Many , if not most held the same opinion about the R's and the Eagles as well.......
Atlanta is a better quality team, but. Any Sunday..............
That's why we play the game!
Thank you Herm[/quote]

Doesn't crackrockn ric sound pissed we won last week? Sounds like he rather be in here ball washing Jay gruden in the face of deserved criticism.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1124403]wow just thought, what if they have Polumbus Chester and Hankerson as their offensive captains at the toin coss. OH NOOOOO[/quote]

Polumbus is with Denver now, Raheem Morris, Bobby Turner, Matt LaFleur and Terry Robiskie are assistant coaches and Kyle.

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Atlanta's D is nothing like the other teams we played, we can contain their running game, the passing game is what worries me. Lots of pressure on Ryan to rattle him is what needed and controling the clock.

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I have been pulling for skins since before most of you were born..havent missed a game since 1969!!! no i am not pissed at all they won...wish they would win them all..as far as Jay Gruden I will leave it to chico he is a expert at all things redskins..heck he is being considered for the Miami head coach job..now lets move on children!

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as far as me saying we will not beat atlanta..does not mean i don't want us to! truth is we had almost over 2 to 1 time possession advantage over Filly and still only won the game at the buzzer..think that will happen at falcons? Eagles are in trouble and almost won that game..Am I wrong ?? we lost to giants and a lot of you were calling out Gruden big time..we came within 2 plays of losing sunday to a bad eagles team ..news flash the Giants are way better than eagles . I'm trying not to get my hopes up too high and looking at things realistic..

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If our secondary plays like last week, we won't win, period. And that's it honestly.. we need to send an extra man sometimes as well, cuz we will get burned without constant pressure, Atl is one of the top passing attacks in the game. We have to play better at the d back position

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[quote=rocnrik;1124411]as far as me saying we will not beat atlanta..does not mean i don't want us to! truth is we had almost over 2 to 1 time possession advantage over Filly and still only won the game at the buzzer..think that will happen at falcons? Eagles are in trouble and almost won that game..Am I wrong ?? we lost to giants and a lot of you were calling out Gruden big time..we came within 2 plays of losing sunday to a bad eagles team ..news flash the Giants are way better than eagles . I'm trying not to get my hopes up too high and looking at things realistic..[/quote]

The Eagles beat the Jets and gave the Falcons a good game in Atlanta. Rams have beaten the Cards and Seahawks. Anything can happen, but if Reed and DJax are out, we're in trouble.

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I always thought that between Kyle Shanahan and Jim Haslett, we let go a good coordinator and kept a bad one.

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[quote=Meks;1124413]If our secondary plays like last week, we won't win, period. And that's it honestly.. we need to send an extra man sometimes as well, cuz we will get burned without constant pressure, Atl is one of the top passing attacks in the game. We have to play better at the d back position[/quote]

I hope Culliver playing hurt was the reason he got burnt multiple times last week. So far he hasn't been as good as advertised.

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I, honestly, see the atl game as a trap game for atl. I could see us pulling it out because atl thinks they will bowl over us. That's my wishful thinking, at least.

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Beating Atlanta is secondary in importance. The most important thing is that we are playing hard and developing as a team and as individual players. A win against Atlanta would be great but a loss wouldn't bother me as long as we continue to progress.

I can't say this enough: We are in Year 1 of a three-year build. That should be your frame of reference when discussing this team.

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[QUOTE=Skinzman;1124390]If the run kept their defense honest in the pass game, then it was working. Had Jay not ran in that last drive, we never go 90 yards and lose the game. We dont have Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers, if defenses do nothing but play pass against us, we dont have a QB on the roster that is going to win games with just the passing game.[/QUOTE]



Disagree. I think Kirk did and will win you games with his arm. He also might lose you a game with a pick late, but that part of growth process with a young QB.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1124428]Beating Atlanta is secondary in importance. The most important thing is that we are playing hard and developing as a team and as individual players. A win against Atlanta would be great but a loss wouldn't bother me as long as we continue to progress.





I can't say this enough: We are in Year 1 of a three-year build. That should be your frame of reference when discussing this team.[/QUOTE]



This.

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[quote=OnceWeWereKings;1124417]I, honestly, see the atl game as a trap game for atl. I could see us pulling it out because atl thinks they will bowl over us. That's my wishful thinking, at least.[/quote]

I could see that too. I don't think they were as bad as 6-10 last year, but they aren't as good as people are proclaiming this year. One draft doesn't suddenly make them world beaters.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1124408]Polumbus is with Denver now, Raheem Morris, [B][U]Bobby Turner[/U][/B], Matt LaFleur and Terry Robiskie are assistant coaches and [B][U]Kyle[/U][/B].[/quote]The worst part about having to fire Mike was it meant losing Kyle and Bobby in the process. At the time I wondered if there was any chance to fire Mike and keep them but one guy is his son and the other guy is one of his closest friends.

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[quote=rocnrik;1124410]I have been pulling for skins since before most of you were born..havent missed a game since 1969!!! no i am not pissed at all they won...wish they would win them all..as far as Jay Gruden I will leave it to chico he is a expert at all things redskins..heck he is being considered for the Miami head coach job..now lets move on children![/quote]

I applaud your dedication, havent missed a game since 69! Thats really amazing...I wish i coulda seen those RFK games in the eighties.

And come'on, you know I could do a better job than Philbin

:)

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i guess today we will hear whether or not Desean sat out or did limited participation in practice/walk throughs.

Someone should start a Skins v Falcons pre game thread.

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[quote=Chico23231;1124406]Atlanta was a double digit loser last year...yes playing well off the bat.......Yes qb and receiver are awesome and that's big. I'd say they are better, obviously do to their record. Talent on defense? Meh. Oh Vic Beasley has shut up the doubters...quick too. Guy is good. Oline? Meh. We should be able to move them around.

Our biggest problem will be handling their passing game...tall order. Can't give up the big plays...Trent Robinson/goldson need to rebound from poor games last week. Can't let Matt Ryan stand tall in the pocket...got to move him[/quote]My take is that our strength is rushing offense; which just happens to be ATL weakness. Stopping/limiting their offense imho starts with our offense/run game's ability to control the clock. We can't get into a shoot out. While it will be great (and possible) to gash them for good YPC, its more important to simply just keep grinding out the attempts ~30ish. Maintain the threat of play-action, bootlegs and control the clock.

I have faith that Jay-Kirk ability to move the ball effectively through the air, but still allow the run game carry them.

On the flip-side; ATL's offense so dangerous because they are good on the ground (Bobby) and in the air (Kyle). But on paper our D should be able to make them 1 dimensional. On paper we're stout against the run. Now they have a chance to really prove it against one of the better running games in the league. IF we can accomplish that goal, making them 1-dimensional, then we can focus on limiting their pass offense.

I don't see how we can stop Julio with a banged up Cully. My guess is we double him with Breeland + a safety help and prayer. Then its gonna come down to Hank vs an injured Cully or Blackmon...But the real answer comes from our front vs their OL. Can Ryan, Hatch, Bake, Paea, Murph and Preston get after Matty Ryan?

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1124434]I applaud your dedication, havent missed a game since 69! Thats really amazing...I wish i coulda seen those RFK games in the eighties.

And come'on, you know I could do a better job than Philbin

Fired after 4 games..That is a dumpster fire down in miami..and to think we lost to them! that is what frustrates me so much about the Skins..Miami was the game we should have won. we have to beat those teams to have a chance..I would be very happy to be playing the last two games for a chance at The NFC east. things are looking better in Washington.

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[quote=rocnrik;1124439][QUOTE=Chico23231;1124434]I applaud your dedication, havent missed a game since 69! Thats really amazing...I wish i coulda seen those RFK games in the eighties.

And come'on, you know I could do a better job than Philbin

Fired after 4 games..That is a dumpster fire down in miami..and to think we lost to them! that is what frustrates me so much about the Skins..[B]Miami was the game we should have won. we have to beat those teams to have a chance[/B]..I would be very happy to be playing the last two games for a chance at The NFC east. things are looking better in Washington.[/quote]

Going into it, that wasn't a "game we should win". It's easy to say that now looking back at a 1-3 record but that was a team that had every reason to expect to win that game. We played them hard and even in a loss I think they showed us that this team could play with teams that they aren't supposed to beat.

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The Dolphins are better than they've shown so far. Plus we beat ourselves week 1 more than anything.

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Atlanta had to come back to beat all the other teams in our division. Its not like they strait up owned any of them. Cowboys were beating them pretty good and that was without Romo.
Our defense has been better atleast stat wise. Better in every category. We absolutely need to blitz the hell out of Ryan and rattle him early. Cant let him off the hook and have him just pick us apart. It is a road game. I wont be surprised if they beat us handily. I wont be surprised if they beat us in a close one. I wont be surprised if we beat them in a close one. I will be surprised if we beat them handily, and hey .... Who doesnt like surprises! HTTR.

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[quote=rocnrik;1124439][QUOTE=Chico23231;1124434]I applaud your dedication, havent missed a game since 69! Thats really amazing...I wish i coulda seen those RFK games in the eighties.

And come'on, you know I could do a better job than Philbin

Fired after 4 games..That is a dumpster fire down in miami..and to think we lost to them! that is what frustrates me so much about the Skins..Miami was the game we should have won. we have to beat those teams to have a chance..I would be very happy to be playing the last two games for a chance at The NFC east. things are looking better in Washington.[/quote]

Evidence that things are looking up: I haven't seen the words "dumpster fire" and Redskins in the same sentence in a while. Maybe since Scot got here... Coincidence. I think not. No matter what happens this weekend, we are a better team than a year ago. Much better.