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Docston is a bust in the passing game. Why not turn him into a runner?

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Is Gruden trying to get fired. Seems like he and Cousins have already left.

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Sack! Behind the line of scrimmage...

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Defense!

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Okay....we have great field position....we need to capitalize.

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Crowder is 31st in punt return average.
No he is not a dangerous returner.

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Pressure

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Hate to be the draft position fan but at this point what do you gain from a win. The coach is probably already thinking about next week's game anyway.

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Defense need to step up one more time.

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Jay Gruden is just a horrendous horrendous coach. Sitting next to Skins fan and we knew with 100% confidence we were going 3 and out. Grudens clutch bone is made of vagina.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1183438]Hate to be the draft position fan but at this point what do you gain from a win. The coach is probably already thinking about next week's game anyway.[/quote]

Its 100% reasonable to think that way. Its hard when actually watcing to want to lose, but I won't be mad if it happens.

I said winning was harmful leading up to the game.

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Gruden is not a good coach, in some respects the team losing out and Gruden getting fired would be the only good outcome of this season.

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Highlight of the game is Ronde Barber calling Kendall Fuller, Kendall Jenner, and we were shafted on that INT by Vigil.

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Please lose. Please have a high draft pick


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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1183443]Highlight of the game is Ronde Barber calling Kendall Fuller, Kendall Jenner, and we were shafted on that INT by Vigil.[/quote]

Lol this...Kendall Jenner.

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Anthony Lanier II player of the game.

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Damn it all.


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[quote=Chico23231;1183445]Lol this...Kendall Jenner.[/quote]

He did that twice. Amazing

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Well, we got the w. Did we gain anything long term? No.

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Have special teams ever been more of a Dumpster Fire?

Vernon Davis...sometimes I feel like he is playing for the other team...kinda like a spy. Makes terrible play after terrible play.

Josh Doctson...why did we draft him?

Great job defense I guess. You got an assist by Blaine gabbert who is terrible

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Can Arizona stop pretending now that Gabbert is auditioning to be their starter next year? He’s awful.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1183451]Have special teams ever been more of a Dumpster Fire?



Vernon Davis...sometimes I feel like he is playing for the other team...kinda like a spy. Makes terrible play after terrible play.



Josh Doctson...why did we draft him?



Great job defense I guess. You got an assist by Blaine gabbert who is terrible[/QUOTE]


VD has done nothing with his opportunity to be the man at TE. That is why we need to roll the dice with Reed. VD is clearly a complimentary TE only.

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[quote=MTK;1183454]VD has done nothing with his opportunity to be the man at TE. That is why we need to roll the dice with Reed. VD is clearly a complimentary TE only.[/quote]

Or, be bold, cut both of them, make Sprinkle #1, bring back Paulsen, and keep Paul.

Just kidding, to me Reed was always coming back, because of the dead space issue and the fact we have no replacement, and we have so many other holes, we can't pick another TE after picking Sprinkle.

Were bringing him back and dreaming for double digit games. I don't care about 16, because it won't happen, I'll take 10.

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[quote=Chico23231;1183451]Have special teams ever been more of a Dumpster Fire?

Vernon Davis...sometimes I feel like he is playing for the other team...kinda like a spy. Makes terrible play after terrible play.

Josh Doctson...why did we draft him?

Great job defense I guess. You got an assist by Blaine gabbert who is terrible[/quote]

Davis is our only deep threat. He is the first guy teams are game planning for.
It’s hard for me to criticize him since he is our only speed guy which is a shame.

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[quote=jamf;1183466]Davis is our only deep threat. He is the first guy teams are game planning for.
It’s hard for me to criticize him since he is our only speed guy which is a shame.[/quote]

Davis has been great for us. He's a perfect # 2 TE. He's done as much as we could of possibly hoped for. Him and Reed is a deadly combo, unfortunately Reed just never plays.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1183479]Davis has been great for us. He's a perfect # 2 TE. He's done as much as we could of possibly hoped for. Him and Reed is a deadly combo, unfortunately Reed just never plays.[/quote]

Fumbles, drop passes, penalties and he almost get cousins killed today when he whiffed on a pass block.

Nobody should want VD.

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[quote=Chico23231;1183482]Fumbles, drop passes, penalties and he almost get cousins killed today when he whiffed on a pass block.

Nobody should want VD.[/quote]

It was nice when he was pulling in surprised wide-open 30 yarders every game, ever since he stopped doing that it's a whole lot of nothing. Too many fumbles, poor blocks, and dropped passes. Idc if Skins seek an upgrade next year.

Also not sure if Sprinkle is ready for part-time backup duty behind Reed, he's not much of a pass blocker either. He looks hella skinny for the position took, dude needs to put on some weight and improve his entire game. Reed's backup is always gonna get serious minutes every year.

S/N jamf, what does it say about our team if our mid 30's backup TE is our only speed guy. It says to me that Doctson needs to step up. He's on his way to earning Rod Gardner's nickname if he keeps letting passes sail through his hands.

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VD hasn’t done much for several weeks now

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[quote=MTK;1183489]VD hasn’t done much for several weeks now[/quote]

Neither has Cousins.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1183507]Neither has Cousins.[/quote]

:doh:

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[quote=Chico23231;1183523]:doh:[/quote]

Winning the game wasn't enough apparently.

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[quote=Chico23231;1183482]Fumbles, drop passes, penalties and he almost get cousins killed today when he whiffed on a pass block.

Nobody should want VD.[/quote]

Hard to argue with this but why is he blocking on elite defensive end without help?
He's not a blocking TE, I'm not going to blame him for that but his fumbles kill us.

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[quote=jamf;1183554]Hard to argue with this but why is he blocking on elite defensive end without help?
He's not a blocking TE, I'm not going to blame him for that but his fumbles kill us.[/quote]

I cant argue and thought the samething...Still...you got to at least get a piece of him.

Cousins got crushed.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1183507]Neither has Cousins.[/quote]

He hasn't but who does he have?? Josh Doctson is a bust, dude drops balls and never gets open. He is much slower than I thought he was.

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Based on the stats, Cousins played better than I thought yesterday.

Run game however, pewwwww!!!! Take away Grudens amazing reverse call, we had 20 carries for 45 yards. That is so damn bad.

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Hopefully Doctson has a healthy off season and work on getting more explosive. I think he'll take off next year.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1183563]Hopefully Doctson has a healthy off season and work on getting more explosive. I think he'll take off next year.[/quote]

He just can't get open, corners jam him and its over . VD is our only deep threat, how sad is that?

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[quote=Chico23231;1183451]Have special teams ever been more of a Dumpster Fire?

Vernon Davis...sometimes I feel like he is playing for the other team...kinda like a spy. Makes terrible play after terrible play.

Josh Doctson...why did we draft him?

Great job defense I guess. You got an assist by Blaine gabbert who is terrible[/quote]

Davis blocks worse than Reed. He doesn't even try to block someone. I don't understand why these TE's are so shitty at blocking. Part of it is heart. You have to actually want to knock someone off the ball. Our guys just want to catch passes.

We'll never run the ball w/ Reed and Davis as our TE's.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1183564]He just can't get open, corners jam him and its over . VD is our only deep threat, how sad is that?[/quote]

WRs often times take the longest to develop. Year 3 is the year where you really start expecting results. Fingers crossed.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1183565]Davis blocks worse than Reed. He doesn't even try to block someone. I don't understand why these TE's are so shitty at blocking. Part of it is heart. You have to actually want to knock someone off the ball. Our guys just want to catch passes.

We'll never run the ball w/ Reed and Davis as our TE's.[/quote]

Agree 100. Idk why they keep calling their number. In the film break downs the line is usually average to above average in run blocking and the tight ends consistently have terrible grades.

Fix it or don't and call different plays.