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[QUOTE=30gut;1191994]Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 4 (IND): Wynn, Isaiah, OG, Georgia (A)
Round 2 Pick 14 (CINN): Chark, DJ, WR, LSU (B+)
Round 2 Pick 17 (IND): Davis, Carlton, CB, Auburn (A)
Round 2 Pick 20 (BALT): Michel, Sony, RB, Georgia (A-)
Round 3 Pick 13 (CINN): St Brown, Equanimeous, WR, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 3 Pick 19 (BALT): Senat, Deadrin, DT, South Florida (A)
Round 4 Pick 9: Averett, Anthony, CB, Alabama (A+)
Round 5 Pick 5: Fatukasi, Folorunso, DT, Connecticut (A+)
Round 5 Pick 26: Ferguson, Riley, QB, Memphis (C+)
Round 6 Pick 14: Reaves, Jeremy, FS, South Alabama (B)
Round 7 Pick 13: Facyson, Brandon, CB, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 7 Pick 23: ODaniel, Dorian, OLB, Clemson (A+)[/QUOTE]I like your picks... but I guess you're not liking our receivers?

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[quote=30gut;1191994]Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 4 (IND): Wynn, Isaiah, OG, Georgia (A)
Round 2 Pick 14 (CINN): Chark, DJ, WR, LSU (B+)
Round 2 Pick 17 (IND): Davis, Carlton, CB, Auburn (A)
Round 2 Pick 20 (BALT): Michel, Sony, RB, Georgia (A-)
Round 3 Pick 13 (CINN): St Brown, Equanimeous, WR, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 3 Pick 19 (BALT): Senat, Deadrin, DT, South Florida (A)
Round 4 Pick 9: Averett, Anthony, CB, Alabama (A+)
Round 5 Pick 5: Fatukasi, Folorunso, DT, Connecticut (A+)
Round 5 Pick 26: Ferguson, Riley, QB, Memphis (C+)
Round 6 Pick 14: Reaves, Jeremy, FS, South Alabama (B)
Round 7 Pick 13: Facyson, Brandon, CB, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 7 Pick 23: ODaniel, Dorian, OLB, Clemson (A+)[/quote]

I like the idea of trading down and most of your picks. However, I can not see them picking Sony Michel, he has a history of fumbling.

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[quote=30gut;1191994]Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 4 (IND): Wynn, Isaiah, OG, Georgia (A)
Round 2 Pick 14 (CINN): Chark, DJ, WR, LSU (B+)
Round 2 Pick 17 (IND): Davis, Carlton, CB, Auburn (A)
Round 2 Pick 20 (BALT): Michel, Sony, RB, Georgia (A-)
Round 3 Pick 13 (CINN): St Brown, Equanimeous, WR, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 3 Pick 19 (BALT): Senat, Deadrin, DT, South Florida (A)
Round 4 Pick 9: Averett, Anthony, CB, Alabama (A+)
Round 5 Pick 5: Fatukasi, Folorunso, DT, Connecticut (A+)
Round 5 Pick 26: Ferguson, Riley, QB, Memphis (C+)
Round 6 Pick 14: Reaves, Jeremy, FS, South Alabama (B)
Round 7 Pick 13: Facyson, Brandon, CB, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 7 Pick 23: ODaniel, Dorian, OLB, Clemson (A+)[/quote]

I like the strategy, keep trading back every position in the first round until you have every single pick in the second round. Make it happen Bruce

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[quote=Irrefutable;1191998]I like the idea of trading down and most of your picks. However, I can not see them picking Sony Michel, he has a history of fumbling.[/quote]To each their own. I don't think NFL teams are going to remove Michel from their draft boards because of fumbles. They'll all have a plan to help him fix it.

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[quote=WillH;1191996]I like your picks... but I guess you're not liking our receivers?

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk[/quote]Lol, yeah I think our receiving corps could use a boost. We added Paul Richardson but he's not a #1 receiver. I love Doctson's potential but there are questions about if he'll ever get there. Jamison is our lead dog but he's a slot receiver.

I think Jay does a great job on scheming up the passing game last year and I want him to have the best weapons possible at his area of expertise.

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[QUOTE=30gut;1192013]Lol, yeah I think our receiving corps could use a boost. We added Paul Richardson but he's not a #1 receiver. I love Doctson's potential but there are questions about if he'll ever get there. Jamison is our lead dog but he's a slot receiver.

I think Jay does a great job on scheming up the passing game last year and I want him to have the best weapons possible at his area of expertise.[/QUOTE]Fair enough. I always have liked Mo Harris, think he'll step up into the Ryan Grant hole, but wouldn't hurt to elevate the talent level. Think we could use the depth more on defense though.

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[QUOTE=WillH;1192015]Fair enough. I always have liked Mo Harris, think he'll step up into the Ryan Grant hole, but wouldn't hurt to elevate the talent level. Think we could use the depth more on defense though.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]He made some big time plays in 16.

I was never sure why he fell of the radar in 17?

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[quote=30gut;1192012]To each their own. I don't think NFL teams are going to remove Michel from their draft boards because of fumbles. They'll all have a plan to help him fix it.[/quote]

You may be right, Michel has 9 fumbles in the last 3 years. However, only one lost fumble in 2017.

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Mike Mayock said Michel is a Shady McCoy like runner, someone that can do it all and avoid big hits so they stay healthy for most of their careers. That is rare in today's NFL, Most big time RB's don't make a full season often.

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13: R1p13 - cb denzel ward - ohio st.
44: R2p12 - rb ronald jones ii - usc
109: R4p9 - dl harrison phillips - stanford
142: R5p5 - cb d.j. Reed - kansas st.
163: R5p26 - te troy fumagalli - wisconsin
188: R6p14 - lb dorian o'daniel - clemson
231: R7p13 - g sean welsh - iowa
241: R7p23 - s kameron kelly - san diego st.

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13: R1p13 - lb Roquan Smith UGA 6-1 236 4.51
44: R2p12 - rb Rashaad Penny SDSU 5-11 220 4.46
109: R4p9 - wr Michael Gallup Col State 6-1 205 4.46
142: R5p5 - c/g Scott Quessenberry UCLA 6-4 315 5.09
163: R5p26 - te Troy Fumagalli Wisconsin 6-4 247 Slow
188: R6p14 - qb Logan Woodside Toledo 6-1 201 4.72
231: R7p13 - dt B.J. Hill NCSU 6-3 311 4.99
241: R7p23 - edge James Hearns Louisville 6-2 239 Slow

Note: I began this draft with the assumption that we'll sign a DL in FA. I wanted speed and play-making ability.

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Note: I had to trade next years 1st rounder to the Browns to move up. Then, I had to make other trades down to recoup some picks.

Round 1 Pick 4 (CLE): Barkley, Saquon, RB, Penn State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 21 (BUF): Corbett, Austin, OG, Nevada (B+)
Round 3 Pick 13 (CINN): Settle, Tim, DT, Virginia Tech (A-)
Round 3 Pick 36 (CINN): Cole, Mason, C/OT, Michigan (A)
Round 4 Pick 21 (BUF): McFadden, Tarvarus, CB, Florida State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 5: Victor, Azeem, ILB, Washington (A)
Round 5 Pick 14 (CINN): Cichy, Jack, ILB/OLB, Wisconsin (A)
Round 5 Pick 26: Ford, Poona, DT, Texas (A)
Round 6 Pick 14: Reed, DJ, CB, Kansas State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 13: Tate, Auden, WR, Florida State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 23: Ferguson, Riley, QB, Memphis (A)

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1192055]Note: I had to trade next years 1st rounder to the Browns to move up. Then, I had to make other trades down to recoup some picks.

Round 1 Pick 4 (CLE): Barkley, Saquon, RB, Penn State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 21 (BUF): Corbett, Austin, OG, Nevada (B+)
Round 3 Pick 13 (CINN): Settle, Tim, DT, Virginia Tech (A-)
Round 3 Pick 36 (CINN): Cole, Mason, C/OT, Michigan (A)
Round 4 Pick 21 (BUF): McFadden, Tarvarus, CB, Florida State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 5: Victor, Azeem, ILB, Washington (A)
Round 5 Pick 14 (CINN): Cichy, Jack, ILB/OLB, Wisconsin (A)
Round 5 Pick 26: Ford, Poona, DT, Texas (A)
Round 6 Pick 14: Reed, DJ, CB, Kansas State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 13: Tate, Auden, WR, Florida State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 23: Ferguson, Riley, QB, Memphis (A)[/quote]


I would do that for Barkley

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1192055]Note: I had to trade next years 1st rounder to the Browns to move up. Then, I had to make other trades down to recoup some picks.

Round 1 Pick 4 (CLE): Barkley, Saquon, RB, Penn State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 21 (BUF): Corbett, Austin, OG, Nevada (B+)
Round 3 Pick 13 (CINN): Settle, Tim, DT, Virginia Tech (A-)
Round 3 Pick 36 (CINN): Cole, Mason, C/OT, Michigan (A)
Round 4 Pick 21 (BUF): McFadden, Tarvarus, CB, Florida State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 5: Victor, Azeem, ILB, Washington (A)
Round 5 Pick 14 (CINN): Cichy, Jack, ILB/OLB, Wisconsin (A)
Round 5 Pick 26: Ford, Poona, DT, Texas (A)
Round 6 Pick 14: Reed, DJ, CB, Kansas State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 13: Tate, Auden, WR, Florida State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 23: Ferguson, Riley, QB, Memphis (A)[/quote]

I might have made that move for Barkley if I thought he was the final piece we needed to have a championship team. But, right now, I think we're a little too far away from contending to go for broke on one great prospect.

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Schefter tweeted

Rams receive:
WR Brandin Cooks
4th-round pick

Patriots receive:
1st-round pick
6th-round pick


Rams wont pick till the 3rd round!

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Your score is: 21445 (GRADE: A-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 13: Hurst, Maurice, DT, Michigan (A-)
Round 2 Pick 12: Price, Billy, C/OG, Ohio State (A)
Round 4 Pick 9: Meeks, Quenton, CB, Stanford (A+)
Round 5 Pick 5: White, Mike, QB, Western Kentucky (A+)
Round 5 Pick 26: Ateman, Marcell, WR, Oklahoma State (A)
Round 6 Pick 14: Apke, Troy, SS, Penn State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 13: Pettway, Kamryn, RB, Auburn (A)
Round 7 Pick 26 (ATL): Facyson, Brandon, CB, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 7 Pick 38 (ATL): Coutee, Keke, WR, Texas Tech (A+)

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[quote=30gut;1192240]Your score is: 21445 (GRADE: A-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 13: Hurst, Maurice, DT, Michigan (A-)
Round 2 Pick 12: Price, Billy, C/OG, Ohio State (A)
Round 4 Pick 9: Meeks, Quenton, CB, Stanford (A+)
Round 5 Pick 5: White, Mike, QB, Western Kentucky (A+)
Round 5 Pick 26: Ateman, Marcell, WR, Oklahoma State (A)
Round 6 Pick 14: Apke, Troy, SS, Penn State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 13: Pettway, Kamryn, RB, Auburn (A)
Round 7 Pick 26 (ATL): Facyson, Brandon, CB, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 7 Pick 38 (ATL): Coutee, Keke, WR, Texas Tech (A+)[/quote]

I don't believe they have a viable back up center who will be active on game day on the roster right now.

Jay has said in the past he loses sleep over the center position.

I really like a pick like Price as a hedge against injury at the center position. If they do take an O lineman early, I'm betting it is a player who can play multiple positions.

I really want a front seven D player in the top rounds though and love the Hurst pick, if he is still there.

All that being said, I believe a talented dual threat running back would have the single biggest impact on the team from a win/loss point of view.

Portis was on Cooley the other day, he apparently evaluates the RB position for the team (who knows how much weight is given to his opinion).

He said Guice was the only other RB with a 1st round grade besides Barkley.

Rambling a little I know. I CANT WAIT FOR THE DRAFT!!!!

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1192241]...
All that being said, I believe a talented dual threat running back would have the single biggest impact on the team from a win/loss point of view.

Portis was on Cooley the other day, he apparently evaluates the RB position for the team (who knows how much weight is given to his opinion).

He said Guice was the only other RB with a 1st round grade besides Barkley.[/quote]Good post.

Adrian Peterson was my favorite player in the NFL for a long time; I say that because i'm a guy that likes and believes in the RB position. I like this group of RBs.

But I know I'm a broken record on this and really actually try not to bring it up myself. Imho I don't see the point in drafting a RB high because I believe that Jay runs a system that doesn't feature the RB in a way that schematically maximizes their ability.

I think the biggest improvement in the run game will come from the 1) overall improvement of the LG and Center positions 2) health of the OL + RBs 3) improvement of the depth of the OL + RB 4) better weapons on the outside

Just 2 years ago Football Outsiders rated the run offense as #4 and that was with Fat Rob and Matt Jones.

Imo the difference was the OL stayed healthy, Kelly stayed healthy AND there were legit threats at the outside WR spots.

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[quote=30gut;1192243]Good post.


But I know I'm a broken record on this and really actually try not to bring it up myself. Imho I don't see the point in drafting a RB high because I believe that Jay runs a system that doesn't feature the RB in a way that schematically maximizes their ability.
[/quote]

I used to think this until the CT injury. After he got injured, our old QB failed to throw for 300 yards in a game the rest of the season.

We need an explosive dual threat back, he would be a game changer for our offense.

I know CTs injury was a fluke but he has always been injured so we need to have a plan A and use CT as plan B (3rd Down back).

I also don't like limiting plays for fragile guys (Reed and CT), if they aren't built for this league, get them the F out.

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13. Trade with Detroit (20) They take Derwin James FSU. We get their 2nd round pick 51.

20. Maurice Hurst DT Michigan - IMO the best DL in this draft, he would be a top 10 pick if it wasn't for his heart scare.

44. Sony Michel RB - UGA

51. (From Det) - Will Hernandez OG - UTEP

109. Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, EDGE- Oklahoma

142. Antonio Callaway, WR, Florida

163. Tyler Conklin, TE, Central Michigan

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1192287]13. Trade with Detroit (20) They take Derwin James FSU. We get their 2nd round pick 51.

20. Maurice Hurst DT Michigan - IMO the best DL in this draft, he would be a top 10 pick if it wasn't for his heart scare.

44. Sony Michel RB - UGA

51. (From Det) - Will Hernandez OG - UTEP

109. Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, EDGE- Oklahoma

142. Antonio Callaway, WR, Florida

163. Tyler Conklin, TE, Central Michigan[/quote]

Yes, I think this trade scenario is plausible and we could really use another 2nd round pick in this draft.

I'm gonna let you slide this time on picking yet another OU player because Okoronkwo can play and we sure could use a good pass rusher.

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Could they?[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180410/6526e1ec1ef7c8156bfada45e36cb2d8.jpg[/IMG]

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[QUOTE=30gut;1192297]Could they?[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180410/6526e1ec1ef7c8156bfada45e36cb2d8.jpg[/IMG]

Sent from my SM-G892A using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]No they couldn't.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1192295]Yes, I think this trade scenario is plausible and we could really use another 2nd round pick in this draft.

I'm gonna let you slide this time on picking yet another OU player because Okoronkwo can play and we sure could use a good pass rusher.[/quote]

I'm actually not that high on him but in the later rounds yes it's worth the look. I really want to trade down and add another 2nd, it would be huge. Hope it happens

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[QUOTE=30gut;1192297]Could they?[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180410/6526e1ec1ef7c8156bfada45e36cb2d8.jpg[/IMG]

Sent from my SM-G892A using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Just asking for a friend, what was RG3's completion percentage in 2012?

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We need players that help us run the ball and stop the run...unless they are simply extremely talented, too good to pass up (ie Minkah, Derwin, maybe even CB Ward OSU).

Lamar doesn't fall into that category IMO. He is gonna need time to develop and is a reach at 13.

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Jackson’s build is similar to RG3... hopefully he’ll be smarter about protecting himself

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This team drafting a QB at 13 would be the worst move it could make, Alex is our guy for 3-4 years.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1192287]13. Trade with Detroit (20) They take Derwin James FSU. We get their 2nd round pick 51.

20. Maurice Hurst DT Michigan - IMO the best DL in this draft, he would be a top 10 pick if it wasn't for his heart scare.

44. Sony Michel RB - UGA

51. (From Det) - Will Hernandez OG - UTEP

109. Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, EDGE- Oklahoma

142. Antonio Callaway, WR, Florida

163. Tyler Conklin, TE, Central Michigan[/quote]

I doubt Hernandez falls to 51, but a guard at that spot would be the right pick.

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Here is a 7-Round Skins mock draft by R.J. White of cbssports.com:

[U]Washington Redskins[/U]

1 13 Vita Vea, NT, Washington
2 44 Ronald Jones II, RB, USC
4 109 Mason Cole, G/C, Michigan from DEN/SF
4 136 Desmond Harrison, OT, West Georgia from LAR/NE
5 142 Traded to L.A. Rams from DEN
5 163 Kameron Kelly, CB, San Diego State from DEN/ATL
6 205 Quin Blanding, SS, Virginia from CLE/NE
7 231 Traded to L.A. Rams
7 241 Cedrick Wilson, WR, Boise State from LAR

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I could live with this...

1.13 RB SAQUON BARKLEY PENN STATE
2.12 WR CALVIN RIDLEY ALABAMA
4.9 DL KENDRICK NORTON MIAMI
5.5 CB ISAAC YIADOM BOSTON COLLEGE
5.26 LB OREN BURKS VANDERBILT
6.31 S TREY MARSHALL FLORIDA STATE
7.13 TE CHRIS HERNDON MIAMI
7.23 OT BRETT TOTH ARMY

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[quote=MTK;1192754]I could live with this...

1.13 RB SAQUON BARKLEY PENN STATE
2.12 WR CALVIN RIDLEY ALABAMA
4.9 DL KENDRICK NORTON MIAMI
5.5 CB ISAAC YIADOM BOSTON COLLEGE
5.26 LB OREN BURKS VANDERBILT
6.31 S TREY MARSHALL FLORIDA STATE
7.13 TE CHRIS HERNDON MIAMI
7.23 OT BRETT TOTH ARMY[/quote]

Lol as would I, that happens and you being the one calling it, I will send you on a 7 day 6 night trip to Jamaica

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Did a whole 1st round mock draft on nfl.com...

[url]https://predictpick.nfl.com/?icampaign=ptp-edi-PTP_Player_CP[/url]

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Just did a live mock draft on nfl network had us picking a guard from utep will hernandez.i would be shocked and Bruce should be axed before the second round..i hope they at least take best player available.

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[quote=skinsqc;1192782]Just did a live mock draft on nfl network had us picking a guard from utep will hernandez.i would be shocked and Bruce should be axed before the second round..i hope they at least take best player available.[/quote]

I'd take him if we trade back

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I think we will trade back get guice.. and are 3rd round pick back.

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[quote=skinsqc;1192782]Just did a live mock draft on nfl network had us picking a guard from utep will hernandez.i would be shocked and Bruce should be axed before the second round..i hope they at least take best player available.[/quote]

saw that, a bit ridiculous at 13

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Part of me says no thanks at 13, the other part of me says the dude is a beast and fills a big hole

[url]https://www.nfl.com/prospects/will-hernandez?id=32462018-0002-5598-2873-8029092a1ebf[/url]

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[quote=MTK;1192788]Part of me says no thanks at 13, the other part of me says the dude is a beast and fills a big hole

[url]https://www.nfl.com/prospects/will-hernandez?id=32462018-0002-5598-2873-8029092a1ebf[/url][/quote]

The only reason I would be ok with it, is that Callahan was involved in Dallas drafting Travis Frederick in the first round when he was a 2nd-3rd round prospect, and that has worked out very well for them

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Hernandez and Scherff at the guard spots would be plain nasty