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[quote=skinsfaninok;1189042]The #Chiefs will receive a package of draft picks from the #Rams in exchange for CB Marcus Peters. They are focusing on the final part of the deal right now. But it’s getting done.

Per Rap sheet[/quote]

Man, the Chiefs are having a great offseason so far:

-they freed 17M in cap space by trading a QB whose replacement they already have

-they picked up a great CB in Kendall Fuller. And a 3rd rounder

-and now they get "multiple picks" for a CB whose replacement they already have

Well played.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1189072]Man, the Chiefs are having a great offseason so far:

-they freed 17M in cap space by trading a QB whose replacement they already have

-they picked up a great CB in Kendall Fuller. And a 3rd rounder

-and now they get "multiple picks" for a CB whose replacement they already have

Well played.[/quote]

Getting rid of two "Pro bowl" caliber players for unknowns,lets wait before we call this a "great off season".

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lol reminds me of all those great drafts and off seasons the Browns have had

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1189077]Getting rid of two "Pro bowl" caliber players for unknowns,lets wait before we call this a "great off season".[/QUOTE]Yeah that may have been a little of an over statement ^^

But I really like how their 2 trades complete each other.
They get good value back without creating any holes on their roster.
You can argue they downgraded a bit on both position, but they still have solutions.

Plus apparently Peters didn't want to stay long term and they had issues with him.

So in both cases they get really good value for players they wouldn't have kept 2 years from now.

([url]https://247sports.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/Bolt/Marcus-Peters-wanted-out-of-Kansas-City-report-says-115475354[/url])

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They let Smith go but that could end up biting them. We'll see about mahomes, remember everyone loved Jeff Georges arm too

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Yeah as really think it could indeed bite them in the rear in the long run.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1189086]They let Smith go but that could end up biting them. We'll see about mahomes, remember everyone loved Jeff Georges arm too

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Maybe it will.
I wonder how much of a choice they had once the guy they gave up a 1st and a 3rd to move up 17 spots in the draft to get was perceived to be a potential starter though.

With all the Alex Smith haters and the talk about him being a game manager, once Patrick Mahomes delivered when asked, they weren't going to keep Smith very long, so getting value for him while they could was smart. And they got pretty good value for him.

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walterfootball.com gave the Jags a MILLEN KIELBASA SURPRISE IN THE POOL Grade for resigning Blake Bortles. :laughing-

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Interesting....................



[url]https://www.yahoo.com/sports/2018-starting-quarterbacks-ranked-apy-041938716.html[/url]

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[quote=Giantone;1189131]Interesting....................



[url]https://www.yahoo.com/sports/2018-starting-quarterbacks-ranked-apy-041938716.html[/url][/quote]

Fucking Eagles. Wentz at 6.6M. Frustratingly great bargain.

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[quote=Schneed10;1189134]Fucking Eagles. Wentz at 6.6M. Frustratingly great bargain.[/quote]

Lets see, remember their 9.5 over the CAP. Lets see how he is off of an injury?

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1189120]walterfootball.com gave the Jags a MILLEN KIELBASA SURPRISE IN THE POOL Grade for resigning Blake Bortles. :laughing-[/quote]

He gave us the same grade for the Alex Smith trade. And gave Chiefs an A+.

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Cowboys got 4 extra compensatory picks, lame!!!

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[quote=Schneed10;1189134]Fucking Eagles. Wentz at 6.6M. Frustratingly great bargain.[/quote]

For now at least, in 2 years he'll probably be the first $40M a year guy

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Minnesota Vikings making room for Kirk Cousins or giving the job back to Teddy Bridgewater?

[URL="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000917516/article/vikings-not-expected-to-franchise-tag-case-keenum?campaign=fb-nf-sf183051072-sf183051072&sf183051072=1&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral"]Case Keenum To Test Free Agency[/URL]

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[quote=metalskins;1189189]Minnesota Vikings making room for Kirk Cousins or giving the job back to Teddy Bridgewater?

[URL="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000917516/article/vikings-not-expected-to-franchise-tag-case-keenum?campaign=fb-nf-sf183051072-sf183051072&sf183051072=1&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral"]Case Keenum To Test Free Agency[/URL][/quote]

Sam may stay there too.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1189081]Yeah that may have been a little of an over statement ^^

But I really like how their 2 trades complete each other.
They get good value back without creating any holes on their roster.
You can argue they downgraded a bit on both position, but they still have solutions.

Plus apparently Peters didn't want to stay long term and they had issues with him.

So in both cases they get really good value for players they wouldn't have kept 2 years from now.

([url]https://247sports.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/Bolt/Marcus-Peters-wanted-out-of-Kansas-City-report-says-115475354[/url])[/quote]

[url]http://cdn.stationcaster.com/stations/wtem/media/mpeg/02_26_18_Cooley___Kevin_HR_2-1519659547.mp3[/url]

At the beginning of this part of today's show, Cooley and Kevin talked about the Peters trade and compared it to the way our FO handle the KC situation: he doesn't want to be here, you don't like him a lot (right or wrong), get value for him while you can. Smart.
And they said that thinking the Rams only gave up a second, while it might be several picks...

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Well, another one who may not be in the Kirk Cousins sweepstakes....

[URL="https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2018-nfl-free-agency-kirk-cousins-reportedly-too-expensive-for-cardinals/?linkId=48543012"]Kirk Cousins Reportedly Too Expensive For Cardinals. [/URL]

So he's down to the Vikings, Jets, Broncos, and Browns.

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The NFL Fightin' Maras's get Jerrah again...

[url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22588191/nfl-commissioner-roger-goodell-fine-cowboys-owner-jerry-jones]NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell to fine Cowboys owner Jerry Jones[/url]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1189203]The NFL Fightin' Maras's get Jerrah again...

[url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22588191/nfl-commissioner-roger-goodell-fine-cowboys-owner-jerry-jones]NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell to fine Cowboys owner Jerry Jones[/url][/quote]

..........it ain't mara .

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[quote=metalskins;1189198]Well, another one who may not be in the Kirk Cousins sweepstakes....

[URL="https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2018-nfl-free-agency-kirk-cousins-reportedly-too-expensive-for-cardinals/?linkId=48543012"]Kirk Cousins Reportedly Too Expensive For Cardinals. [/URL]

So he's down to the Vikings, Jets, Broncos, and Browns.[/quote]

Someone here posted that the Browns won't be signing him. If any other team drops out of the chase, it could get dicey for our boy Kirk.

I'll take a guess and say he'll take less money to play for the Broncos and they will sign him.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1189210]Someone here posted that the Browns won't be signing him. If any other team drops out of the chase, it could get dicey for our boy Kirk.

I'll take a guess and say he'll take less money to play for the Broncos and they will sign him.[/quote]

LOL, doubt it.




[url=http://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/02/nfl-free-agency-kirk-cousins-rumors-broncos-jets-browns-vikings-cardinals]Why the Vikings and Browns are Kirk Cousins’ best options | For The Win[/url]

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[url]https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/02/27/marcus-peters-chiefs-rams-trade?utm_campaign=sinow&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&xid=socialflow_twitter_si[/url]

Headcase no thank u

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Vonte Davis to Bills per his twitter account. "Bills Mafia!"

Good pick up for them

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Competition Committee may be pushing a change with the pass interference penalty.

[URL="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000917735/article/league-could-change-dpi-from-spot-foul-to-15yard-penalty?campaign=fb-nf-sf183146879-sf183146879&sf183146879=1"]NFL Could Change Defensive Pass Interference Penalty[/URL]

I'm on board with this. There shouldn't be any spot fouls in the NFL. 15 yarder is sufficient enough in this case.

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[quote=metalskins;1189284]Competition Committee may be pushing a change with the pass interference penalty.

[URL="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000917735/article/league-could-change-dpi-from-spot-foul-to-15yard-penalty?campaign=fb-nf-sf183146879-sf183146879&sf183146879=1"]NFL Could Change Defensive Pass Interference Penalty[/URL]

I'm on board with this. There shouldn't be any spot fouls in the NFL. 15 yarder is sufficient enough in this case.[/quote]

It either needs to be 15 yards or reviewable (only the penalized team can challenge that it wasn't PI). No reason teams should get bogus 50 yard gifts.

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[quote=metalskins;1189284]Competition Committee may be pushing a change with the pass interference penalty.

[URL="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000917735/article/league-could-change-dpi-from-spot-foul-to-15yard-penalty?campaign=fb-nf-sf183146879-sf183146879&sf183146879=1"]NFL Could Change Defensive Pass Interference Penalty[/URL]

I'm on board with this. There shouldn't be any spot fouls in the NFL. 15 yarder is sufficient enough in this case.[/quote]

Would be a good change. NCAA has this rule already, hasn't it? Spot of foul if under 15y, 15 yards penalty if the foul occurs further down the field.

Btw, I was looking at SB XXVI (amazing game).

And realized there has been some pretty significant rules changes between then and now:

What on earth was that "if a receiver is forced out of bounds while in the air, and he would have come down in bounds had he not been pushed, then it's a catch" rule ?!!?! Glad we got rid of that one!
It came up 2 times on the Art-Monk-called-back-TD-drive, feels pretty insane when you've never heard of it...

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[url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22590179/what-made-blake-bortles-extension-questionable-why-jacksonville-jaguars-all-nfl-2018]What made Blake Bortles extension questionable, and why Jacksonville Jaguars are all-in - NFL 2018[/url]

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I don't like that change, if you tackle a WR on a deep route on the 10 yard line where he would probably catch it, he should be down there. Now if you do that, it will also take away from crazy GW catches like (MIN) this yr and others. I say keep the P.I rule but take away Illegal Contact

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1189287]It either needs to be 15 yards or reviewable (only the penalized team can challenge that it wasn't PI). No reason teams should get bogus 50 yard gifts.[/quote]

If it's legit than it won't be bogus so I agree replay the fouls

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1189293]Would be a good change. NCAA has this rule already, hasn't it? Spot of foul if under 15y, 15 yards penalty if the foul occurs further down the field.

Btw, I was looking at SB XXVI (amazing game).

And realized there has been some pretty significant rules changes between then and now:

What on earth was that "[B][I]if a receiver is forced out of bounds while in the air, and he would have come down in bounds had he not been pushed, then it's a catch" rule ?!!?! Glad we got rid of that one! [/I][/B]
It came up 2 times on the Art-Monk-called-back-TD-drive, feels pretty insane when you've never heard of it...[/quote]

Just think, had that been the rule back in the 80's, there would've been a lot of much closer games, if not completely different outcomes in games, because I do remember that rule. And I think the last TD in Super Bowl XVII was such a TD, because Theismann kind of threw it to the side of the end zone and I think it might have been Alvin Garrett that caught the pass and was forced out of bounce, but still had the TD to count.

In Super Bowl XXVI, there were a lot of "catches" that wouldn't have been catches today. I remember one low pass Rypien threw to Byner that was called a catch and there was no way that would've been called a catch in today's game. Of course, there were also a lot of times where roughing the passer probably would've been called on the Redskins defense as well that wasn't called. The game was definitely called much more loosely back then!

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[URL="http://myfox8.com/2018/02/28/panthers-release-veteran-running-back-jonathan-stewart/"]Jonathan Stewart released by the Panthers[/URL]

Worth a look?

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[QUOTE=metalskins;1189312]Just think, had that been the rule back in the 80's, there would've been a lot of much closer games, if not completely different outcomes in games, because I do remember that rule. And I think the last TD in Super Bowl XVII was such a TD, because Theismann kind of threw it to the side of the end zone and I think it might have been Alvin Garrett that caught the pass and was forced out of bounce, but still had the TD to count.

In Super Bowl XXVI, there were a lot of "catches" that wouldn't have been catches today. I remember one low pass Rypien threw to Byner that was called a catch and there was no way that would've been called a catch in today's game. Of course, there were also a lot of times where roughing the passer probably would've been called on the Redskins defense as well that wasn't called. The game was definitely called much more loosely back then![/QUOTE]

It just feels so funny now, to hear the ref say "...he would have come down in bounds..." ... yeah and if there was no defender he would have scored a 90 yards TD, so let's give him 7 points?
With all the elements required to call a catch nowadays, having such a subjective rule sounds crazy.

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[quote=metalskins;1189353][URL="http://myfox8.com/2018/02/28/panthers-release-veteran-running-back-jonathan-stewart/"]Jonathan Stewart released by the Panthers[/URL]

Worth a look?[/quote]

3.4 yards per carry .... no thanks

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[quote=metalskins;1189353][URL="http://myfox8.com/2018/02/28/panthers-release-veteran-running-back-jonathan-stewart/"]Jonathan Stewart released by the Panthers[/URL]

Worth a look?[/quote]

nah too old

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1189360]It just feels so funny now, to hear the ref say "...he would have come down in bounds..." ... yeah and if there was no defender he would have scored a 90 yards TD, so let's give him 7 points?
With all the elements required to call a catch nowadays, having such a subjective rule sounds crazy.

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I know! Kind of like, "How can you predict the future ref? Maybe he swings one of his legs out a little too much and the foot lands on the white?"

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[QUOTE=metalskins;1189369]I know! Kind of like, "How can you predict the future ref? Maybe he swings one of his legs out a little too much and the foot lands on the white?"[/QUOTE]Haha yes. And it also makes it sound like it was sooo unfair of the defender to push the receiver out of bounds... like, was he suppose to just stand there and watch him make the catch in bounds?

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Looks like Green bay is going to give Rodgers a new contract.



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[quote=FrenchSkin;1189384]Haha yes. And it also makes it sound like it was sooo unfair of the defender to push the receiver out of bounds... like, was he suppose to just stand there and watch him make the catch in bounds?

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LOL! I know, right?

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000917989/article/jets-cut-muhammad-wilkerson-2-years-after-megadeal]Jets cut Muhammad Wilkerson 2 years after mega-deal - NFL.com[/url]

Jets released Muhammed Wilkerson