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[quote=Chico23231;1230331]they didn't tho. Case hasn't been the issue, shit, the WRs haven't been the issue.

The Oline is decent in Pass Pro, struggles with penalties and running the Ball. No TE blocking at ALL. Again another year of this bullshit with the TE group. You talk about a youth movement, cut VD and Reed...play the young guys to see what we have there.

We need to improve Oline and TE this coming offseason.[/quote]

I don't think Case is THE issue, but he's certainly not a solution. Like I mentioned, when you need your QB to step up when the game starts slipping he's not good enough to put the team on his back. He missed several throws that may have kept the game competitive. It ain't his fault cause he is who he is. I think for now he should keep playing, but with each loss his rope gets shorter.

I'd move on from Reed after the season. He shouldn't be out there anymore. It's sad cause in 10 years we're going to be hearing about him w/ CTE.

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[quote=punch it in;1230279]Manusky has been fired everywhere he ever coached. How these same dingbats keep landing jobs is mind numbing. I swear to God I don’t think there is any real vetting done before these guys sign their 7 figure offer sheets. Its just “yeah i used to coach with his brother in the college ranks and we both like the same television shows” - boom. Hired.[/quote]

Good proven coaches are not coming here folks, they know the deal with Snyder and Allen. We'll have to get up and comers at best. Our only hope going forward is Allen is fired, and Snyder hires a respected GM or candidate and turns the keys over to him...and I just don't see that happening.

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[quote=punch it in;1230322]He definitely comes up small when the heat is on. But for who he is I guess we need to be happy. It could be waaaaay worse.[/quote]

Exactly.

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[quote=Redskins247;1230337]Good proven coaches are not coming here folks, they know the deal with Snyder and Allen. We'll have to get up and comers at best. Our only hope going forward is Allen is fired, and Snyder hires a respected GM or candidate and turns the keys over to him...and I just don't see that happening.[/quote]

Even when they do, we go the other way...we looked past Wade Phillips for Barry, Phillips would def had come here to coach with his son at the time. It came down to Mike Pettine and Manusky after Barry was fired, we chose the idiot and Pettine has the Green Bay Defense playing like a top 5 in the league.

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Okay to the few who blame Case think about this..everybody here agrees the playcalling is very predictable and at times bad .. we went into the season with huge questions about the offense.. the bright spots for me has been Case and terry show also the penn and flowers show ain’t is bad as I thought it would be.. yes Case has missed a few but he is playing for a coach/system that we all think suck ..so for the situation he is being put in I give him props !! If things keep going bad we will see Hadkins and I hope putting him into that circus on fire situation works out but my guess is he struggles (not because of his athleticism but to put him out there in a bad situation is not going to end well )

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Need to trade Trent now and start adding picks, he's not coming back and I dont blame him. The team sucks, I'd also shop Kerrigan, at this point folks we need to accept the fact that this team isn't going anywhere. U need to get value for guys that are still good players

REBUILD MODE

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1230342]Need to trade Trent now and start adding picks, he's not coming back and I dont blame him. The team sucks, I'd also shop Kerrigan, at this point folks we need to accept the fact that this team isn't going anywhere. U need to get value for guys that are still good players

REBUILD MODE[/quote]

Exactly . We are 3 / 4 years away most likely .

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More of this:

Sweat-Payne (Allen)-Matty I-Kerrigan with Settle rotation...Anderson-Hamilton-Holcomb behind them.

With Allen back, Sweat-Allen-Payne(Settle)-Matty I (Kerrigan).

We gotta stop the run better than we have and try new pressure schemes

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1230314]Sweat too, he's been awful in Pass rush[/quote]

I kind of expected that from a rookie, slow start.

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Manusky coaches like a scared bitch. Davis basically called him out while commentating. He has to go simply because fair or not teams convert way too many 3rd downs. Also it's two weeks in a row where coming out of halftime they get gashed.

Moreland had some rough patches yesterday but at least he competes and will come up and play bump and run. Norman is playing like 12 yards off the wr. That to me says I suck and I can't compete.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1230348]Manusky coaches like a scared bitch. Davis basically called him out while commentating. He has to go simply because fair or not teams convert way too many 3rd downs. Also it's two weeks in a row where coming out of halftime they get gashed.

Moreland had some rough patches yesterday but at least he competes and will come up and play bump and run. Norman is playing like 12 yards off the wr. That to me says I suck and I can't compete.[/quote]

Moreland made some nice tackles and got screwed by being held on the Prescott 42 yard run, officials ignored it. Norman sucks and needs to go chase some bulls or something.

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Bruce Allen, Jay Gruden,and Manusky need to be fired immediately. Promote Kyle Smith to GM, O’Connell to HC, Bill Callahan to OC-OL coach, and Jim Tomsula or Ryan to DC.


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So I did not get to watch the game but the running stat line looked atrocious. AP not much better than DG. Was that because of abandoning the run, poor running game, Dallas getting up and forcing the skins to pass?

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The eagles and boys both have great DL's but its also due to Trent being gone, he's a dominant Run Tackle

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[quote=mooby;1230313]This line of thinking totally ignores the fact Gruden playing all young guys doesn't make sense. You do that, you're admitting the season is a lost cause.

Jay Gruden can't admit the season is a lost cause because he's coaching for his career here, anything less than playoffs and he's done [B](because he's on the last year of his contract).[/B] Hell, with Kevin O'Connell in house his hot seat is probably warming up, we might actually see a coaching change in season if we look this clueless through the first half.

Of course that won't do anything about Bruce Allen or Dan but we'd have better luck playing the lotto than hoping either one of those will be out of town anytime soon.[/quote]

I believe he has one more year on his current contract after this year...

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1230309]He is and thats a great sign.

U guys are really good trap, cant even hate on Dallas[/quote]

Not with that attitude you can't!

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1230394]Not with that attitude you can't![/quote]

I call it like it is bro, they are really good and we suck. No sugar coating from me

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[quote=Redskins247;1230337]Good proven coaches are not coming here folks, they know the deal with Snyder and Allen. We'll have to get up and comers at best. [/quote]

^^^^
This!

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1230396]I call it like it is bro, they are really good and we suck. No sugar coating from me[/quote]

You can still hate on teams, even if they are good.

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^ Jay Gruden coat made out of 100% Rat ass

Bruce Allen, I don't even know you, but I hate you

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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1230352]Bruce Allen, Jay Gruden,and Manusky need to be fired immediately. Promote Kyle Smith to GM, O’Connell to HC, Bill Callahan to OC-OL coach, and Jim Tomsula or Ryan to DC.


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I agree with all with the exception of the defensive coordinator move. I would promote Ray Horton. Ryan has sucked at previous stops as a DC.

Horton has also been fired as a DC, but he has had more success than Ryan.

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I'm getting tired of my job. I'll take the DC position.

Strategy - Hit motherfuckers in their mouths.

Not in my strategy - Rush 4 like a bitch every time

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1230409]I'm getting tired of my job. I'll take the DC position.

Strategy - Hit motherfuckers in their mouths.

Not in my strategy - Rush 4 like a bitch every time[/quote]

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Grades are out...Josh Norman got effing toasted yesterday. WOW

Couple things and these are the grades after the first 2 games

Offense

They are grading Keenum as an avg to below avg QB grade. whatever

Oline...Moses is playing like garbage. Worst player on the Line. We are pass blocking good as a unit, but Flowers, Roullier and Moses not run blocking good enough.

Receivers aren't grading well sans Scary Terry who grades great. The RB are ok. The TE aren't grading worth a shit..especially run blocking.

Defense:

Settle and Payne are grading like Grizzly bears in the middle, great grades. Matty I, Kerrigan and Sweat are grading like shit, they aren't providing the pass rush.

The Safeties grade really well, but the Corners aren't grading worth a shit. ILBs are up and down...

Oh Rogers Cromartie should be cut today. Graded terrible

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Only bright spots were McLaurin, Payne, and Way.

The rest = hot garbage.

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Not that it matters to you gents. But Michael Gallup took a helmet to his left knee in the 4th quarter yesterday. Torn meniscus. Arthroscopic surgery. Out 2-4 weeks.

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;1230456]Not that it matters to you gents. But Michael Gallup took a helmet to his left knee in the 4th quarter yesterday. Torn meniscus. Arthroscopic surgery. Out 2-4 weeks.[/QUOTE]



Never like to see injuries. Given how banged up we are (and always are), I get no pleasure in seeing others suffer that fate.

Having said that, I hope you guys lose out and then languish in salary cap he’ll forever. No offense.


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[quote=MTK;1230448]Only bright spots were McLaurin, Payne, and Way.[/quote]

I also like the new wrinkles in the offense. Per Keim, few players are already excited about what O'Connell brings to the table.

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Offense is much better this yr, that was supposed to be the weak spot but Defense is hot garbage

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1230462]Offense is much better this yr, that was supposed to be the weak spot but Defense is hot garbage[/quote]

Manusky is the absolute worst DC I think we've ever had here and that's friggin saying something.

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What was the word on Allens injury. I must have missed how long he will be out, or how our medical staff will mess him up?...

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[quote=Meks;1230463]Manusky is the absolute worst DC I think we've ever had here and that's friggin saying something.[/quote]

I would give that award to Ron Lynn. I'll never forget when washed up Boomer Esiason dropped like 530 yards passing on our defense. But Manusky isn't real far behind. His adjustment was after Dallas hit a long pass was to play 12 yards off their wr's. To me that isn't even competing.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1230465]What was the word on Allens injury. I must have missed how long he will be out, or how our medical staff will mess him up?...

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Gruden said that Allen would be evaluated again this week.
It sounds like he is week to week.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1230474]I would give that award to Ron Lynn. I'll never forget when washed up Boomer Esiason dropped like 530 yards passing on our defense. But Manusky isn't real far behind. His adjustment was after Dallas hit a long pass was to play 12 yards off their wr's. To me that isn't even competing.[/quote]

I hated that M’fer Ron Lynn he sucked balls!!

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[quote=skinsfan69;1230333]It's not a lost cause but it is painfully obvious that this is not a playoff team. But for instance, what good is it playing Josh Norman and DRC? Norman should have been shopped during the off season. Now that he's being exposed his value is nothing. DRC was out there limping around and they still put him out there. This shit is just inexcusable.[/quote]

Well how much choice do you have in the matter when Fabian Moreau and Dunbar are injured? The injuries are dictating our corner situation. Even so, Norman is playing like straight ass right now and is most likely playing his way out of the uniform for next season.

We already knew DRC was hot garbage, he's just reaffirming it. Guessing he's only here because our depth is being severely tested right now.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1230474]I would give that award to Ron Lynn. I'll never forget when washed up Boomer Esiason dropped like 530 yards passing on our defense. But Manusky isn't real far behind. His adjustment was after Dallas hit a long pass was to play 12 yards off their wr's. To me that isn't even competing.[/QUOTE]I was going to throw Barry out there, but FootballOutsiders defense DVOA says you're right.

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With Manusky’s super vanilla defense it won’t matter when Allen comes back.


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[quote=mooby;1230482]Well how much choice do you have in the matter when Fabian Moreau and Dunbar are injured? The injuries are dictating our corner situation. Even so, Norman is playing like straight ass right now and is most likely playing his way out of the uniform for next season.

[B]We already knew DRC was hot garbage, he's just reaffirming it[/B]. Guessing he's only here because our depth is being severely tested right now.[/quote]

Exactly, then why sign the guy?

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[quote=skinsfan69;1230474]I would give that award to Ron Lynn. I'll never forget when washed up Boomer Esiason dropped like 530 yards passing on our defense. But Manusky isn't real far behind. His adjustment was after Dallas hit a long pass was to play 12 yards off their wr's. To me that isn't even competing.[/quote]

I believe I had successfully blocked that game from my memory until you just broke the wall down. That game was horrid.

We should be better on D than we are now. By a bunch. This is getting really bad.

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Just saw this video of Flowers in the game.. It is kinda early but I'm impressed by Flowers, and I was one of many people who hated the signing but now it's starting to look like it's paying dividends.

[url]https://youtu.be/GFlYiOfS64o[/url]