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punch it in 11-03-2023 09:35 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1351025]After trading both Sweat and Young, the new GM better hit a homerun with our top 5 picks or new ownership will look like fools.[/QUOTE]


Well we got a lot of fixin to do. 9 picks and a ton of cap room is a good start though. Upgrade the oline, te, secondary, edge, and lb corp.
Looks like we got a Kicker in Slye. Ill eat crow on that one. Lol.

Howell, wr’s, backs are solid. DT’s obviously solid. Kurl, Davis.

Hitting on the first 3 picks is an absolute must have.

SFREDSKIN 11-03-2023 10:19 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[quote=punch it in;1351029]Well we got a lot of fixin to do. 9 picks and a ton of cap room is a good start though. Upgrade the oline, te, secondary, edge, and lb corp.
Looks like we got a Kicker in Slye. Ill eat crow on that one. Lol.

Howell, wr’s, backs are solid. DT’s obviously solid. Kurl, Davis.

Hitting on the first 3 picks is an absolute must have.[/quote]

I still don’t trust Slye, he kills you sometimes at the wrong times.

KI Skins Fan 11-04-2023 09:09 AM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
Speaking of the need for a real GM, here are the players we could have had in the first 3 rounds of the 2023 draft if RR had his mind right when we picked:

Round 1 - Christian Gonzales, CB Oregon
Round 2 - O'Cyrus Torrence, OG Florida
Round 3 - Dawand Jones, OT Ohio State

All three of these players filled obvious needs and started for their NFL teams this season. And they all played very well.

Know this, these were not my picks in hindsight and I'm not trying to show you how smart I am. The point is that these players fit our needs so perfectly that even a dumb shit like me could see it. How much would these players have helped us this year and in the future? Case closed on RR the GM. He must go prior to the next FA period and draft.

rocnrik 11-04-2023 09:20 AM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
Yea We had obvious glaring needs and we took an underweight skinny CB who’s skill set was jumping routes ?? We all know the gamble with that .. yea you might get a pick or give up Six … this ain’t college ball .wow Ron has wasted so much .. the league is designed for bad teams to get better ..

oldfan 11-04-2023 05:02 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
I have seen several people advocating Bill Belichick for our new head coach. Since Tom Brady left New England, his record is 26 - 29. That isn't much, if any, better than Rivera's, I sincerely hope that Belichick doesn't come to Washington. It will be just more wasted years on a has been coach.

davy 11-04-2023 07:40 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[quote=oldfan;1351040]I have seen several people advocating Bill Belichick for our new head coach. Since Tom Brady left New England, his record is 26 - 29. That isn't much, if any, better than Rivera's, I sincerely hope that Belichick doesn't come to Washington. It will be just more wasted years on a has been coach.[/quote]

Overall, without Brady he is 80-93 in the regular season.

GOAT my arse.

That title belongs to our very own Joe Gibbs. :thumbsup:

sdskinsfan2001 11-04-2023 09:01 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
BB is too old to be our next HC. Get some fresh, exciting blood in there, for the fresh new start.

AnonEmouse 11-05-2023 02:28 AM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
I think BB is just being linked by journalists because he is (or should be) on the hot seat in NE. Go young with a guy like McVay, McDaniel etc. Hungry and innovative not old and predictable. I suspect Harris is smart enough to bring in a good GM and let that guy find the right candidate. He brought in Shen and immediately he had a good influence on the trades (reportedly).

oldfan 11-05-2023 11:06 AM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[quote=davy;1351042]Overall, without Brady he is 80-93 in the regular season.

GOAT my arse.

That title belongs to our very own Joe Gibbs. :thumbsup:[/quote]

I stand corrected. You are right. He is not the super coach everyone believes he is without Brady.

SFREDSKIN 11-05-2023 11:55 AM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[quote=oldfan;1351054]I stand corrected. You are right. He is not the super coach everyone believes he is without Brady.[/quote]

Walsh without Montana and BB without Brady. Gibbs was the best, period!!

punch it in 11-05-2023 12:16 PM

Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
It isn’t just about a quarterback. Gibbs did have an all pro oline, wr’s, rb’s, cornerback, and several other defenders. Thank you Bobby Beathard. Gibbs is every bit a great HC as anyone, but it isn’t just about a QB. Everyone still discounting his influence on those great Giant teams. He was absolutely as responsible if not more responsible as Parcells. BB is the best defensive mind in NFL history.

Literally every great HC ever had numerous great players. GM is sooooo important. Maybe more important.

punch it in 11-05-2023 12:18 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1351043]BB is too old to be our next HC. Get some fresh, exciting blood in there, for the fresh new start.[/QUOTE]


This is a reasonable argument, age. That is the only reasonable argument. How much desire does he have left? But he would instantly bring credibility and make our D better. Would still need the right OC.

AnonEmouse 11-05-2023 12:59 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[URL="https://riggosrag.com/posts/commanders-rumors-offensive-candidates-replace-ron-rivera-01heb2g5etje/3"]https://riggosrag.com/posts/commanders-rumors-offensive-candidates-replace-ron-rivera-01heb2g5etje/3[/URL]

I like all of these, though McCown needs more experience before becoming a HC imho.

SFREDSKIN 11-05-2023 01:42 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[quote=punch it in;1351060]It isn’t just about a quarterback. Gibbs did have an all pro oline, wr’s, rb’s, cornerback, and several other defenders. Thank you Bobby Beathard. Gibbs is every bit a great HC as anyone, but it isn’t just about a QB. Everyone still discounting his influence on those great Giant teams. He was absolutely as responsible if not more responsible as Parcells. BB is the best defensive mind in NFL history.

Literally every great HC ever had numerous great players. GM is sooooo important. Maybe more important.[/quote]

All those team with great QB’s had complete solid rosters top to bottom too and yes a QB makes a big difference unless you are Joe Gibbs.

Are Jay 11-05-2023 02:39 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[quote=AnonEmouse;1351069][URL="https://riggosrag.com/posts/commanders-rumors-offensive-candidates-replace-ron-rivera-01heb2g5etje/3"]https://riggosrag.com/posts/commanders-rumors-offensive-candidates-replace-ron-rivera-01heb2g5etje/3[/URL]

I like all of these, though McCown needs more experience before becoming a HC imho.[/quote]

Just call Jim Harbaugh and offer him FU money.

BaltimoreSkins 11-05-2023 08:15 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
If Walsh, BB or Gibbs came to you in their prime and you told them no because they weren't the greatest then you are all damn fools. I would have gladly taken any of them.

BaltimoreSkins 11-05-2023 08:16 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[quote=Are Jay;1351146]Just call Jim Harbaugh and offer him FU money.[/quote]

The dude drinks milk while eating steak that is a hard No from me

calia 11-06-2023 01:27 AM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
Man, Demeco Ryans is working out well for the Texans. They’re playing a lot better than expected. Seems like a good dude too. Would be great to land a guy like that.


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MTK 11-06-2023 08:43 AM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1351236]If Walsh, BB or Gibbs came to you in their prime and you told them no because they weren't the greatest then you are all damn fools. I would have gladly taken any of them.[/quote]

I’d definitely take BB the coach but not GM.

Anyone turning their nose up at one of the goat HC’s is a clown.

punch it in 11-06-2023 09:09 AM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[QUOTE=calia;1351250]Man, Demeco Ryans is working out well for the Texans. They’re playing a lot better than expected. Seems like a good dude too. Would be great to land a guy like that.


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They have a couple weird losses to Carolina and Atlanta. Crazy. They seem to have really figured it out quickly after a slow start.

mooby 11-06-2023 09:19 AM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[quote=MTK;1351258]I’d definitely take BB the coach but not GM.

Anyone turning their nose up at one of the goat HC’s is a clown.[/quote]

Accurate - BB the GM needs to can himself after this year. He can still coach though. Obviously he just needs a solid qb to build around, the Mac Jones project ain't working out.

calia 11-06-2023 06:40 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[QUOTE=punch it in;1351262]They have a couple weird losses to Carolina and Atlanta. Crazy. They seem to have really figured it out quickly after a slow start.[/QUOTE]


And Stroud looks legit.


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jamf 11-06-2023 08:45 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[quote=MTK;1351258]I’d definitely take BB the coach but not GM.

Anyone turning their nose up at one of the goat HC’s is a clown.[/quote]

He is one of the greats but I don’t bring in a HC over 70 for this situation.
If we had an elite QB like Brady, Warner, or Manning for a few years then BB would be a great fit, similar to what Tampa did with Bruce Arians and Brady. I just don’t see him developing a team right now.

rocnrik 11-06-2023 09:38 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
What we need is a Younger BB … they are out there .. However remember he had Brady also .. so the recipe is a Great QB with a Great Coach add in a Solid D and stable ownership and sprinkle in some luck and maybe just maybe you can win a championship… it ain’t easy
Currently we don’t have the coach or the D .. the Jury is out on the QB however it looks promising… The ownership is better than it was but we gotta a long ways to go ..
If Sam plays out the year and becomes the guy .. we have the opportunity to go after a new coach/staff get lucky on the draft picks .. who knows we may become seriously competitive… As it is just getting to playoffs is our Super Bowl .. it’s sad

SFREDSKIN 11-06-2023 11:17 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
Sean McVay and Sam Howell would be incredible

SFREDSKIN 11-07-2023 04:33 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
Wes Phillips grandson of Bum, former Redskins TE coach and current Vikings OC. It would be an intriguing move.

REDSKINS4ever 11-07-2023 05:44 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
Ron will win 3 straight games and then turn around and lose 3 straight games.....

punch it in 11-07-2023 06:17 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1351358]Wes Phillips grandson of Bum, former Redskins TE coach and current Vikings OC. It would be an intriguing move.[/QUOTE]


Don’t forget about Wade. In general Im not a fan of legacy hires. I feel like they didn’t earn it. Lol

mooby 11-07-2023 07:22 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[img]https://i.imgur.com/KAzHfsC.jpg[/img]

I think this is one of those things where Chase isn't wrong, but he has no tact since he is barely 10 minutes out of town and he's already trashing us.

Does anybody think Ron and co. prep on the level that Kyle S. and co. do? I don't. I think the culture starts with the coach and Ron/etc. have failed to install the culture the same way Kyle has since he joined the 49ers. Yes, they've lost their last 3 games, but overall the results speak for themselves.

I expect to play at or near .500 ball for the rest of the year, maybe be in the playoff hunt at the end but even if we make it this team isn't going deep into the playoffs. Ron and hopefully JDR are done after the year.

Chief X_Phackter 11-07-2023 07:39 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
Maybe he's just now paying attention... to the details...

skinsfan69 11-07-2023 07:44 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
IMO.. Belichick is not one of the greatest coaches of all time and he sucks as a GM. Plus he won w/ a lot of Parcells leftovers when he won in 2001. Great coaching job he did on that team. Probably the least talented of all his SB teams so I'll give him that.

A great coach can win w/ different types of teams, different QB's and so forth. Just not seeing that w/ Bill B. Parcells was a better coach than Bill B.

calia 11-07-2023 11:11 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1351370]IMO.. Belichick is not one of the greatest coaches of all time and he sucks as a GM. Plus he won w/ a lot of Parcells leftovers when he won in 2001. Great coaching job he did on that team. Probably the least talented of all his SB teams so I'll give him that.

A great coach can win w/ different types of teams, different QB's and so forth. Just not seeing that w/ Bill B. Parcells was a better coach than Bill B.[/QUOTE]


And Gibbs being the best example of that by far.


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HTTR 11-21-2023 10:32 AM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
I’m pretty much convinced that Harris should let RR and JDR keep walking down the plank toward 6-11 or whatever. But if Harris has a GM in the wings, could he put that person in place now? No one currently in Ashburn should be working on our 2024 draft board (other than compiling video). Of course Harris has advisors watching what’s going on, but I’m talking about getting started with gutting the FO. Is there precedent for this?


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Ruhskins 11-21-2023 12:23 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[quote=HTTR;1352811]I’m pretty much convinced that Harris should let RR and JDR keep walking down the plank toward 6-11 or whatever. But if Harris has a GM in the wings, could he put that person in place now? No one currently in Ashburn should be working on our 2024 draft board (other than compiling video). Of course Harris has advisors watching what’s going on, but I’m talking about getting started with gutting the FO. Is there precedent for this?


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I've been saying this almost every day. I don't give a damn when Ron and company get fired. You can fire JDR after this week if you want to appease the fans. But the most important thing is for Harris to hire a GM yesterday.

HTTR 11-21-2023 12:41 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
Do the same tampering rules apply to FO ppl as to players and coaches?


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BaltimoreSkins 11-21-2023 12:50 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1352815]I've been saying this almost every day. I don't give a damn when Ron and company get fired. You can fire JDR after this week if you want to appease the fans. But the most important thing is for Harris to hire a GM yesterday.[/quote]

That is my preference someone in the FO but I will gladly take a coach as well. Anything for new ownership to show they hear the fans frustration would be appreciated. Hell I would even take an apology for the on field product being so piss poor as long as it came from the ownership.

skinsfan69 11-21-2023 08:49 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
I think the one mistake Harris and co made was not firing Mayhew and Hurney right away. He should have got a GM right away and let that person evaluate Ron and company.

But since we are not making the playoffs I think he can get someone in right after the season and get going. Maybe he already has got a guy and that guy is doing work behind the scenes.

I don't think Mayhew really got a fair deal here cause he had to bow down to Ron. He had some solid drafts in Detroit, he also had some bad ones, like all GM's do.

REDSKINS4ever 11-21-2023 08:59 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
They should hire Brian Mitchell as GM and let him fire the new HC

punch it in 11-21-2023 09:49 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[url]https://riggosrag.com/posts/5-potential-replacements-commanders-gm-martin-mayhew-2024[/url]


I mentioned Adam Peters a few weeks ago. He is still the guy I want but this whole list intrigues me.

punch it in 11-21-2023 09:58 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[QUOTE=HTTR;1352816]Do the same tampering rules apply to FO ppl as to players and coaches?


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[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21468302/nfl-reminds-team-new-anti-tampering-rules-pertaining-gm-interviews[/url]

This is all i could find on the interweb. Maybe im not phrasing my question right?


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