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I agree with that. There's a very small chance Byrd becomes available anyway.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000327933/article/bills-plan-to-franchise-tag-jairus-byrd-if-necessary]Buffalo Bills plan to franchise tag Jairus Byrd if needed - NFL.com[/url]

Re: Current 2014 Free Agents
 

mack would be a great signing, but, what would it cost? definitely worth at least looking into.

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I just don't see us going after a great center with so many other holes on the team. Tackle and guard more pressing along the Oline

Re: Current 2014 Free Agents
 

per Mike Jones:

Orakpo camp might be claiming he is a DE.... the franchise tag would be 13 million for a DE

apparently it is a close call what the Skins will do

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How can they use that comparison? he has played outside back since he wa drafted and plays almost all of his snaps standing up?

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[quote=Irrefutable;1061023]per Mike Jones:

Orakpo camp might be claiming he is a DE.... the franchise tag would be 13 million for a DE

apparently it is a close call what the Skins will do[/quote]

If they think he is a DE then his stats look even worse...lol Bye Bye Rak.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1061023]per Mike Jones:

Orakpo camp might be claiming he is a DE.... the franchise tag would be 13 million for a DE

apparently it is a close call what the Skins will do[/quote]

I want Rak to return but we all know that's a crock. If they wanna play it off percentage of snaps played last year it would still be LB.

Its all negotiating tactics. Basically next week there will be a 3 day period for Rak to see his market value. I can't imagine it would be near 13 mil.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1061035]Its all negotiating tactics. Basically next week there will be a 3 day period for Rak to see his market value. I can't imagine it would be near 13 mil.

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Someone will pay him 11-12 per year...and having watched him for his career he isn't worth that. He is not a top 5 OLB in this league.

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if he is even asking 11mil per, then he can go kick rocks. He just isn't worth that much, and if given the amount of snaps, I would say that his performance and production could be nearly matched at substancially less. The beautiful point is that we already have his replacement on the team! For over 10.5 mil per, he should go. Under, I think we could afford to keep him.

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[quote=Mechanix544;1061037]if he is even asking 11mil per, then he can go kick rocks. He just isn't worth that much, and if given the amount of snaps, I would say that his performance and production could be nearly matched at substancially less. The beautiful point is that we already have his replacement on the team! For over 10.5 mil per, he should go. Under, I think we could afford to keep him.[/quote]

If he got around 15 sacks a year, would you say he's worth 11 million?

Orakpo and Kerrigan rushed the QB a lot less than most 3-4 OLBs around the league, and Tandler made the point that if Orakpo rushed as much as Mario Williams, he would've had 17 sacks. What most people don't realize is that our OLBs just didn't get as many sack opportunities as any other starting OLBs.

[url=http://realredskins.com/2014/02/15/haslett-says-hell-turn-orkapo-and-kerrigan-loose/]Haslett says he’ll turn Orkapo and Kerrigan loose | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]

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that said, it just doesnt seem like he shows up for NFCEast games, makes game breaking plays, or has a high motor 100% of the time. It also seems like he is a below average defender in space, and has limited pass rushing moves? Above average player? No doubt. Elite player? not close.

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[quote=SirLK26;1061042]If he got around 15 sacks a year, would you say he's worth 11 million?

Orakpo and Kerrigan rushed the QB a lot less than most 3-4 OLBs around the league, and Tandler made the point that if Orakpo rushed as much as Mario Williams, he would've had 17 sacks. What most people don't realize is that our OLBs just didn't get as many sack opportunities as any other starting OLBs.

[url=http://realredskins.com/2014/02/15/haslett-says-hell-turn-orkapo-and-kerrigan-loose/]Haslett says he’ll turn Orkapo and Kerrigan loose | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url][/quote]

I say no...most of those guys don't get paid by their teams look at Peppers and Williams both went into FA and got paid by other teams. Even if was let loose all he has is one pass rush move...11-12 is too much for an OLB.

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I understand what you two are saying, but I think lots of sacks is still lots of sacks, regardless whether or not they came against NFC East teams, and regardless what kind of move he used to get there. Paying Orakpo 12 million or over is probably too much, but 11 is very reasonable, IMO, considering what kind of DL and scheme he's been rushing with.

Another thing: with the NFL evolving into a more pass happy affair, pass rushers are more valuable than in past years, and will continue to gain value.

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[quote=Mechanix544;1061044]that said, it just doesnt seem like he shows up for NFCEast games, makes game breaking plays, or has a high motor 100% of the time. It also seems like he is a below average defender in space, and has limited pass rushing moves? Above average player? No doubt. Elite player? not close.[/quote]

very well said

Another factor should be resigning Trent in 2 years, and RGIII in 3 years. The two could cost $40 million [B]per year[/B].