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[quote=GridIron26;1194364]You are right about true definition of winning records if we want to get technically with definition. I just don't see it that way. 9-7 means nothing if we don't go deep into playoffs. We can go 9-7 in a row for few years without playoff wins, would we be content with that? I highly doubt that.

Granted, we are talking about winning record specifically so I suppose you guys are right about this.[/quote]

If you want to say contenders then I get your definition.
As for Vegas, I think we have risen slightly above Cleveland level, but we still haven't had a playoff win since '05, so I can understand their skepticism.

I would like to think with all the changes, and all the stability, we have a good few years for certain on the horizon, but the team still has to put it all together and be consistent about it.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1194343][URL="https://omny.fm/shows/cooley-and-kevin-with-chris-cooley-and-kevin-sheeh/05-07-18-cooley-film-breakdown-geron-christian"]Cooley's film breakdown of our 3rd round pick OT Geron Christian[/URL]

He likes him a lot, [B]loves[/B] the pick, excited about it, says he's not as raw as people say, sees him [U]100% as a starter in this league[/U]:

[B]+[/B] can play both LT and RT (in fact his college team made their tackles switch side several times during games), exceptional footwork, good pass protecter, nasty guy in the run game, super long arms, really good at re-establishing him self and moving his feet, hard to get around in the pass game, fluid, good balance

[B]-[/B] could be more immediately impactful with his first hit, never wins with his first punch, lets guys get too close to him because he's a bit late with his hands, panics a little bit sometimes against speed

Cooley finished his breakdown saying he's [U]talented enough to be a week 1 starter[/U]! (This is not what we drafted him for, but this could be turn out to be a great pick).[/quote]

I really felt like this was a great pick. They could have went and got a guard or corner but instead went BPA and got a backup LT/RT. With Trent's injuries we need a guy who can step in. I'd expect Christian to play a lot this year.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1194365]If you want to say contenders then I get your definition.
As for Vegas, I think we have risen slightly above Cleveland level, but we still haven't had a playoff win since '05, so I can understand their skepticism.

[B]I would like to think with all the changes, and all the stability, we have a good few years for certain on the horizon, but the team still has to put it all together and be consistent about it.[/B][/quote]

You are right. I never pay attention to Las Vegas stuff so perhaps my comment was off the point.. And yes I agree with you on bold part.

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Bovada just came out with the over under season win totals.

We are at 7. Their number on us last year was 7.5.

The super bowl odds are kinda a long shot bet. The over under is a much better indicator of what Vegas thinks.

I don't believe 7 is a huge slight. I think we will go over. I did last year too and was so pissed after the giants game if you know what I mean.

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Yeah as really think that they should had won against the Giants. And really hate that.

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It looks like 4 compensatory draft picks in 2019.

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/redskins-likely-get-four-compensatory-picks-2019-nfl-draft[/url]

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[quote=Irrefutable;1194374]It looks like 4 compensatory draft picks in 2019.

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/redskins-likely-get-four-compensatory-picks-2019-nfl-draft[/url][/quote]



"The highest compensatory pick a team can get is a third rounder and that is what Washington will get for losing Kirk Cousins to the Vikings. His new contract averages $28 million per year, by far the highest of any UFA that changed teams. That should land the Redskins a pick near the top of the stack of the seven third-round selections awarded, almost assuring them a comp pick in the top 100.

In addition, the Redskins will get a fifth-round pick for losing OL Spencer Long and two sixth-round selections for losing WRs Ryan Grant and Terrell Pryor"


Pretty awesome we get compensation for garbage like Ryan Grant and Terrell Pryor.

That being said...outside of Interior Oline questions which are 100% legit with starters at LG and C...WR has the be the second area of the team Im moderately worried about. Our coaching there has been poor to match the performance of the group. Make or break for Doctson and Crowder, done with both if no improvement with either.

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Robert Davis coming along.

[url]https://247sports.com/nfl/washington-redskins/Bolt/Redskins-Robert-Davis-focussed-on-making-an-impact-with-the-Redskins-118076672[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1194377]Robert Davis coming along.

[url]https://247sports.com/nfl/washington-redskins/Bolt/Redskins-Robert-Davis-focussed-on-making-an-impact-with-the-Redskins-118076672[/url][/quote]

good to hear

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[quote=Chico23231;1194375]"The highest compensatory pick a team can get is a third rounder and that is what Washington will get for losing Kirk Cousins to the Vikings. His new contract averages $28 million per year, by far the highest of any UFA that changed teams. That should land the Redskins a pick near the top of the stack of the seven third-round selections awarded, almost assuring them a comp pick in the top 100.

In addition, the Redskins will get a fifth-round pick for losing OL Spencer Long and two sixth-round selections for losing WRs Ryan Grant and Terrell Pryor"


Pretty awesome we get compensation for garbage like Ryan Grant and Terrell Pryor.

That being said...outside of Interior Oline questions which are 100% legit with starters at LG and C...WR has the be the second area of the team Im moderately worried about. Our coaching there has been poor to match the performance of the group. Make or break for Doctson and Crowder, done with both if no improvement with either.[/quote]

In the 2019 draft they need. TE, QB,OL..... BPA on defense. It is nice to have 11 picks at the start, maybe they trade up if they love a player.

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We might need WR as well if Doctson doesn't do much this year

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[quote=GridIron26;1194384]We might need WR as well if Doctson doesn't do much this year[/quote]

I agree, maybe two, if Crowder leaves.

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We also need Paul Richardson to come in and do what he got paid for, stretch the field so crowder and doctson can work underneath.

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Doug Williams getting some love. What do you think of this quote, is this a good thing or a bad thing?

"Just like in 2017, the Redskins had an excellent draft, but they don't get a lot of credit for it because their staff doesn't lobby the national media to give them praise like other teams and general mangers."

Read more:*[url]http://walterfootball.com/draft2018awardstopnewcomer.php#ixzz5F1hwhRU3[/url]


Also, All over Twitter, they're letting Scott Campbell go, apparently Kyle Smith was given some of his responsibilities for this draft and likely is getting promoted.

With speculation about Bruce leaving soon, I could see a front office change up in which Dougie Dubs becomes GM or President or whatever and Kyle Smith becomes VP player personnel or whatever they decide to call everything.

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[quote=Chico23231;1194375]"The highest compensatory pick a team can get is a third rounder and that is what Washington will get for losing Kirk Cousins to the Vikings. His new contract averages $28 million per year, by far the highest of any UFA that changed teams. That should land the Redskins a pick near the top of the stack of the seven third-round selections awarded, almost assuring them a comp pick in the top 100.

In addition, the Redskins will get a fifth-round pick for losing OL Spencer Long and two sixth-round selections for losing WRs Ryan Grant and Terrell Pryor"


Pretty awesome we get compensation for garbage like Ryan Grant and Terrell Pryor.

That being said...outside of Interior Oline questions which are 100% legit with starters at LG and C...WR has the be the second area of the team Im moderately worried about. Our coaching there has been poor to match the performance of the group. Make or break for Doctson and Crowder, done with both if no improvement with either.[/quote]

I suspect the answer is no, but what about a pick for Breeland? He was signed away from us before May 8, even though it was voided. Does the contract have to be in place as of May 8? Assume that Indy cuts Grant in August, would we still get the pick? Not sure how this works, but if anyone knows, I'd be grateful for the education.