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skinsfan69 12-18-2013 03:48 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday
 
For the people concerned about Cousins ints, that's part of having an aggressive offense and that's what we saw last week. RG has had some down right terrible Ints this year as well. It's expected with two young guys. Who would you rather have? Drew Brees or Alex Smith? Brees has had a few seasons where he's thrown 20 and 18 ints. So what? Give me that guy over an Alex Smith anyday. We clearly had a real pass offense for the first time all year....w/out Hank and Reed. For only two starts under his belt, and a guy who hadn't started all year, that was pretty impressive stuff on Sun.

donofriose 12-18-2013 03:51 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1050095]For the people concerned about Cousins ints, that's part of having an aggressive offense and that's what we saw last week. RG has had some down right terrible Ints this year as well. It's expected with two young guys. Who would you rather have? Drew Brees or Alex Smith? Brees has had a few seasons where he's thrown 20 and 18 ints. So what? Give me that guy over an Alex Smith anyday. We clearly had a real pass offense for the first time all year....w/out Hank and Reed. For only two starts under his belt, and I guy who hadn't started all year, that was pretty impressive stuff on Sun.[/quote]

He looked like RG3 did against Minnesota. Not better, not worst.

skinsfan69 12-18-2013 04:02 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday
 
[quote=donofriose;1050097]He looked like RG3 did against Minnesota. Not better, not worst.[/quote]

It's not like Griff has sucked all year. He's had a few good games, but he's had several bad ones. It's obvious that if MS stays, Cousins isn't going anywhere and he's going to let this play out. That's the way it should be.

GTripp0012 12-18-2013 04:02 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1049919]Could not be more wrong here. Brady and Manning were running pro offenses in their first full years under center and passing the ball, as was Andrew Luck. There were no "training wheels" as you put it. Wilson, Griff, Locker, EJ Manuel, Ponder?? I think those guys needed to start out with conservative type offenses.[/quote]The offenses Manning and Brady are running today were not considered NFL offenses when they broke into the league.

Luck is certainly a historical anomaly in terms of what responsibilities he received right from the first game (maybe the only guy in the last 20 years to start Game 1 with the full playbook), but he also hasn't exactly taken the league by storm in terms of performance.

GTripp0012 12-18-2013 04:05 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday
 
If RG2 was actually campaigning for Art Briles and helped get him to come here, he would have done more good for the franchise than Shanahan did in 4 years.

donofriose 12-18-2013 04:14 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1050101]It's not like Griff has sucked all year. He's had a few good games, but he's had several bad ones. It's obvious that if MS stays, Cousins isn't going anywhere and he's going to let this play out. That's the way it should be.[/quote]

I don't mind cousins staying, and if he plays well he should be given a chance to compete for next year's starting job.

I do think that Shanahan should go though. but that is a discussion in another thread.

BigHairedAristocrat 12-18-2013 04:19 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday
 
[quote=mooby;1050077]I like Schefter as much as the next guy but I feel like I need to take what he says with a grain of salt considering he's one of Shanny's microphones.[/quote]

The fact that he's a Shanahan microphone is exactly why you SHOULDNT take anything he says with a grain of salt. He's preaching what's really going on, Atleast from shanahans point of view.

donofriose 12-18-2013 04:22 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1050107]The fact that he's a Shanahan microphone is exactly why you SHOULDNT take anything he says with a grain of salt. He's preaching what's really going on, Atleast from shanahans point of view.[/quote]

So he is saying what Shanahan is telling him... I'm confused why people shouldn't question that.

BigHairedAristocrat 12-18-2013 04:25 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday
 
[quote=donofriose;1050108]So he is saying what Shanahan is telling him... I'm confused why people shouldn't question that.[/quote]

It tells us the truth from shanahans point of view, that's why.

donofriose 12-18-2013 04:28 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1050109]It tells us the truth from shanahans point of view, that's why.[/quote]

That isn't truth, that is Shanahan telling someone what to say to the public. That is barely even a point of view.

Brody81 12-18-2013 04:35 PM

[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1050095]For the people concerned about Cousins ints, that's part of having an aggressive offense and that's what we saw last week. RG has had some down right terrible Ints this year as well. It's expected with two young guys. Who would you rather have? Drew Brees or Alex Smith? Brees has had a few seasons where he's thrown 20 and 18 ints. So what? Give me that guy over an Alex Smith anyday. We clearly had a real pass offense for the first time all year....w/out Hank and Reed. For only two starts under his belt, and a guy who hadn't started all year, that was pretty impressive stuff on Sun.[/QUOTE]


Agree!!


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Ruhskins 12-18-2013 05:05 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1050101]It's not like Griff has sucked all year. He's had a few good games, but he's had several bad ones. It's obvious that if MS stays, Cousins isn't going anywhere and he's going to let this play out. That's the way it should be.[/quote]

It's a bad game when your QB has two INTs and a fumble lost. And let's not forget that we were playing a crappy Atlanta team.

I think Cousins played well, but at the end of the day neither QB is going to be successful playing behind that line.

skinsfan69 12-18-2013 05:07 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday
 
[quote=GTripp0012;1050103]If RG2 was actually campaigning for Art Briles and helped get him to come here, he would have done more good for the franchise than Shanahan did in 4 years.[/quote]

That hire would be wrong on so many levels. Snyder isn't that stupid.

MTK 12-18-2013 05:22 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1050109]It tells us the truth from shanahans point of view, that's why.[/quote]

If it's the truth why does he deny it when asked about it directly?

GTripp0012 12-18-2013 05:22 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1050117]That hire would be wrong on so many levels. Snyder isn't that stupid.[/quote]I think it's bad for someone like Cousins getting a fair shake, but it's going to make every other offensive player on the roster better.


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