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Agreed Punch.

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[quote=punch it in;1041139]What a sad state of affairs when discussions become about "why" we are lousy. Lets beat the dumb birds tomorrow and take it from there.
HTTR[/quote]

Agreed. That way gtripp n goat will be gone for another week. Lol

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[quote=Bucket;1041111]Funny thing about this assessment is you most likely made this same type of opinionated responses in 2009 comparing the 2005 team. Lol[/quote]That doesn't make any sense.

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[quote=Chico23231;1041097]If another coach, you think 2009 was a playoff team?

You know, you really got me thinking about the context of 2009 defense and Ill probably more inclined to agree than before. Its not just RG3, but I think the top end talent on the Offense is head and shoulders above, I really strongly believe that. I really think we add 2 WR to this team and back to wow factor quickly. Easier said than done.

I think the most disappointing thing is you made me think about our Dline...really underachieving imo. Thats a good point.[/quote]Um, probably not a playoff team. 8 or 9 wins was pretty reasonable though. Think Dallas and Philly both went 11-5 that year though.

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[quote=punch it in;1041098]Tripp do you not think Garcon is as good as I do? Last year when he played we won. When he didnt we lost. This year he is aces. I agree with your assessment of 09 vs 13 minus two things. JAson Campbell sucked. I cant even mention him in the same breath as Griff. Also our wr core is better now solely due to Garcon. Dude is a stud.[/quote]Garcon is not a top 30 receiver in the NFL. But he does offer a lot to an offense, so he's a valuable player. He's a no. 2 on most teams.

Point was, Campbell 2009 > Griffin 2013. But because of Griffin's 2012, he's very much immune from criticism at the moment. It's probably for the best, IMO.

Really? Because his numbers show different

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1041153]Really? Because his numbers show different[/quote]Not numbers that I look at.

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On a side note.....really really rooting for Jason Campbell to lead Clev to the playoffs.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1041152]Garcon is not a top 30 receiver in the NFL. But he does offer a lot to an offense, so he's a valuable player. He's a no. 2 on most teams.

Point was, Campbell 2009 > Griffin 2013. But because of Griffin's 2012, he's very much immune from criticism at the moment. It's probably for the best, IMO.[/quote]

Garçon not a top 30 receiver? Yeah I'm gonna disagree with that too. Amazing year especially since no other receivers on the field to take any pressure off him.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;1041152]Garcon is not a top 30 receiver in the NFL. But he does offer a lot to an offense, so he's a valuable player. He's a no. 2 on most teams.

Point was, Campbell 2009 > Griffin 2013. But because of Griffin's 2012, he's very much immune from criticism at the moment. It's probably for the best, IMO.[/QUOTE]

You have great insight into the game and i mean that. BUT......
JC in any year < RG-3 in any year.
Garcon is a top 12-15 wr easy.

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Rob Ryan

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[quote=punch it in;1041158]You have great insight into the game and i mean that. BUT......
JC in any year < RG-3 in any year.
Garcon is a top 12-15 wr easy.[/quote]

agree swith this post RG3 isnot sucking this year.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1041150]That doesn't make any sense.[/quote]

Only to someone who is oblivious.

Let's compare teams from a different era and staff and say which one is better and claim it truth. lol.. Basically what that post boils down to.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1041154]Not numbers that I look at when i'm trying to make a point. Unless, they work in my favor.[/quote]

Fixed it.

[QUOTE=GTripp0012;1041154]Not numbers that I look at.[/QUOTE]

He's on pace for over100 catches , that's a top 20 IMO