Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

F trent - if redskins hold the cards this time - if he sits out the entire year it doesnt accrue on his contact and we still have him for 1 year. That being said I would take 2 3rds for him but i'd wait up until the draft to do it

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

[quote=VTSkins1961;1247973]F trent - if redskins hold the cards this time - if he sits out the entire year it doesnt accrue on his contact and we still have him for 1 year. That being said I would take 2 3rds for him but i'd wait up until the draft to do it[/quote]

Was literally about to type this out.

With the new CBA if he doesn't report to camp he won't get accrual for the last year of his deal and the fine is 40k/day(team can't wave the fine either). He will be forced to report, and I'm fine with that. I'm with everyone else, he either leaves for a 3rd rounder in a year or we get fair trade value for him.

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

Tell the agent to STFU or he will sit another year. He needs to lower his contract demands by the draft or he gets nothing.

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

[quote=Irrefutable;1247980]Tell the agent to STFU or he will sit another year. He needs to lower his contract demands or he gets nothing.[/quote]

Exactly. The team has ALL the leverage at this point.

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

[quote=Buffalo Bob;1247972]It is going to have to drag into the season to get a second. His value will never be as high as it was right before last year's trading deadline when a couple contenders needed help at his position. I think there two problems to trading TW right now, the combination of what he wants and what the Redskins want.[/quote]

Actually, this is the best time to trade him, because teams are setting their draft boards and they have cap room. I think teams are being cheap on the compensation and want to play chicken with the Redskins. It is a ridiculous for a team to offer him a deal but not offer fair compensation.

I'm fine with the Redskins trading Dunbar for a 5th, because that was more than he was worth to other teams (who were offering in the neighborhood of 6/7 round picks).

Trent is obviously valuable to teams out there, but they are being cheap on compensation. So I'm fine if the team sits on this at least until the draft.

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1247963]This entire thing makes me hate Bruce Allen even more.[/quote]

Why is that? IMO this is the one thing that Bruce did right - he didn't back down or cave in to Trent's greedy demands. As far as I know, he was insisting on a first plus something (which was absolutely fair for a player with 2 years left on his deal), but no team came close to that. Although there were reports last year that teams were offering first rounders, Keim and others have reported that that wasnt true. Likely, these were false reports put out there by the team to drive up interest. But we never got a first round offer.

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1247988]Why is that? IMO this is the one thing that Bruce did right - he didn't back down or cave in to Trent's greedy demands. As far as I know, he was insisting on a first plus something (which was absolutely fair for a player with 2 years left on his deal), but no team came close to that. Although there were reports last year that teams were offering first rounders, Keim and others have reported that that wasnt true. Likely, these were false reports put out there by the team to drive up interest. But we never got a first round offer.[/quote]

I thought the Browns offered a 1st before the season started last year

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

Fuck Bruce he made it personal and wanted to bleed out Trent. Should have traded him.


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Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

[quote=MTK;1247996]Fuck Bruce he made it personal and wanted to bleed out Trent. Should have traded him.


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this was Bruce's coup de grace. He completely mismanaged this from day 1 as expected. Now we are facing an uphill battle to get a solid pick.

IMO they should still hold for a second.

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

According to Charles Robinson of Yahoo Sports, the Cleveland Browns front office is "furious" at the Washington Redskins over the Trent William situation. Specifically, Robinson is reporting the Browns were willing to send a first round pick to Washington for Trent Williams six weeks ago, putting a deal in the middle of September. The Redskins were unwilling to make a deal then, but tried to call the Browns back before the trade deadline, hoping they could still get that first round pick. The Browns refused. essentially hanging up the phone on them.

The biggest part of the story is going to be the dumpster fire located in Ashburn, Virginia, but the takeaway should be the fact that Browns general manager John Dorsey was fully prepared to mortgage a significant asset in a horrible trade. Six weeks ago, the trade was still a horrible idea.
[url]https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/news/charles-robinson-cleveland-browns-furious-at-washington-redskins-over-trent-williams[/url]

reported that the Browns offered a 1st.

reported that that report was not accurate

meh ... get a 2nd if you can or 2 3rds and move on.

Really curious what Trents asking potential teams in terms of contract. If we wants 20 AAV ... teams wouldnt give us a 4th for that.

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1247994]I thought the Browns offered a 1st before the season started last year[/quote]

Nope - Keim and other beat reporters have debunked that. It was likely a lie bruce put out to drum up interest to try and get another team to actually offer a first. Didn't work. My hunch is that there was likely a time early last year when we could have gotten their 2020 2nd though. Which looks great now. But there was a time last year when the browns looked to be a team on the rise (potentially lower pick in round 2) and the Texans gave up 2 first plus for Tunsil… so I cant really Blame bruce for being firm on a first.

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

[quote=SunnySide;1248003]According to Charles Robinson of Yahoo Sports, the Cleveland Browns front office is "furious" at the Washington Redskins over the Trent William situation. Specifically, Robinson is reporting the Browns were willing to send a first round pick to Washington for Trent Williams six weeks ago, putting a deal in the middle of September. The Redskins were unwilling to make a deal then, but tried to call the Browns back before the trade deadline, hoping they could still get that first round pick. The Browns refused. essentially hanging up the phone on them.

The biggest part of the story is going to be the dumpster fire located in Ashburn, Virginia, but the takeaway should be the fact that Browns general manager John Dorsey was fully prepared to mortgage a significant asset in a horrible trade. Six weeks ago, the trade was still a horrible idea.
[url]https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/news/charles-robinson-cleveland-browns-furious-at-washington-redskins-over-trent-williams[/url]

reported that the Browns offered a 1st.

reported that that report was not accurate

meh ... get a 2nd if you can or 2 3rds and move on.

Really curious what Trents asking potential teams in terms of contract. If we wants 20 AAV ... teams wouldnt give us a 4th for that.[/quote]

As I've said repeatedly, that report has been debunked. Browns never offered a first.

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

[quote=SunnySide;1248003]According to Charles Robinson of Yahoo Sports, the Cleveland Browns front office is "furious" at the Washington Redskins over the Trent William situation. Specifically, Robinson is reporting the Browns were willing to send a first round pick to Washington for Trent Williams six weeks ago, putting a deal in the middle of September. The Redskins were unwilling to make a deal then, but tried to call the Browns back before the trade deadline, hoping they could still get that first round pick. The Browns refused. essentially hanging up the phone on them.

The biggest part of the story is going to be the dumpster fire located in Ashburn, Virginia, but the takeaway should be the fact that Browns general manager John Dorsey was fully prepared to mortgage a significant asset in a horrible trade. Six weeks ago, the trade was still a horrible idea.
[url]https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/news/charles-robinson-cleveland-browns-furious-at-washington-redskins-over-trent-williams[/url]

reported that the Browns offered a 1st.

reported that that report was not accurate

meh ... get a 2nd if you can or 2 3rds and move on.

Really curious what Trents asking potential teams in terms of contract. If we wants 20 AAV ... teams wouldnt give us a 4th for that.[/quote]

Keim has stated many times that the reports of a 1st round pick being offered for Trent last year were not true.

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

So Trent Williams agent says skins are not acting in good faith .. says team is unreasonable in there trade demands.. hmmm .. so let me get this straight Williams wants to be paid like one of the highest Oline players in league but wants redskins to let him walk for chump change or some mid rnd pick ... you can’t have it both ways .. i would tell his agent IF he is worth the contract you are after then it’s at least a number 2 round pick and maybe more .. or let him sit

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

[QUOTE=rocnrik;1248041]So Trent Williams agent says skins are not acting in good faith .. says team is unreasonable in there trade demands.. hmmm .. so let me get this straight Williams wants to be paid like one of the highest Oline players in league but wants redskins to let him walk for chump change or some mid rnd pick ... you can’t have it both ways .. i would tell his agent IF he is worth the contract you are after then it’s at least a number 2 round pick and maybe more .. or let him sit[/QUOTE]


Fair points. I do wonder what we offered him.


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