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Lotus 01-17-2012 07:01 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;876637]Matt Flynn will be signed March 1

#Hail to the Redskins[/quote]

Even if we do get Flynn, he can't be our only QB plan, right? We'd still need to draft a QB high IMO.

diehardskin2982 01-17-2012 07:04 PM

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^ Aggreed Flynn is not the end all-be all for this team See Matt Cassel, he may be nothing more then a system QB who looked good in one game.

irish 01-17-2012 07:22 PM

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Lorenzo Alexander was on Ch 4 tonight saying the Skins should go after Flynn.

WillH 01-17-2012 07:41 PM

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While I don't know college football at all, from his highlights I tend to agree that RGIII seems to be the kind of talent worth mortgaging the teams future.

With that said, if he truly is the phenom he seems to be, is there any chance that the Colts draft him over Luck? New GM and Coach might think he's a better fit.

And if he's not good enough to be in the same conversation as Luck, is he still worth mortgaging the teams future?

theJBexperience 01-17-2012 07:58 PM

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[quote=WillH;876679]While I don't know college football at all, from his highlights I tend to agree that RGIII seems to be the kind of talent worth mortgaging the teams future.

With that said, if he truly is the phenom he seems to be, is there any chance that the Colts draft him over Luck? New GM and Coach might think he's a better fit.[/quote]

I've heard from a friend who has a contact within the Colts' organization that they're high on RGIII, and that Andrew Luck isn't necessarily a lock to be their pick. Take it for what it's worth. It is second-hand info, but my friend is well connected and hasn't let me down before.

[quote=Dirtbag59;876668]I just don't see what all the fuss is with having to pay a premium for the right to draft RGIII. Is the extra cornerback, receiver, or linebacker worth not getting a franchise QB? An elite prospect that can make the team contenders year in and year out.

Let me tell you something, the rest of the NFC East is praying we don't get this guy. They don't want to face him as a rookie and they sure as hell don't want to face him when he starts to come into his own around year 3. I see this guy as a top 5 QB when he develops and certainly he'll end up being the best QB in the East. You just don't pass up an opportunity to take the guy that can turn around your team because you want to be frugal.[/quote]

Totally agreed. Well put. This is a QB league, and we don't have anyone on the roster who is even close to being a competitive starter in the league, let alone championship caliber. Yes, we have a lot of holes, but the biggest one is QB. Plug that one and then fill in the rest. I think Shanny & Allen have the same philosophy but just whiffed big time on Dono.

I cannot understand what the knock is on RGIII. Because of the hype? I know there's a lot of hyped players who tanked. Should that hurt his draft stock? For every JaMarcus Russell & Ryan Leaf, there's a Cam Newton & Peyton Manning. Then the whole skill set argument not fitting Shanny's system. Come on! He's a mobile, pin point passer with a dangerous deep ball. Hello. He's not a run first QB, but he is an elite scrambler. I don't understand the criticism either that he ran the spread in college. You know who else ran the spread in college and it's translated well to the pros? Drew Brees.

Of course, I'm on the RGIII bandwagon. I would love a high character leader for this team who can straight up ball. If his playmaking ability and leadership transfer over to the pros, he will inspire the team and win more games for us. Wouldn't we all like to see some inspired football for a change? If he's not the franchise QB, I still think the team needs to do whatever it takes to find one, and then, plug up the holes. That's how important a franchise QB is in this league.

mooby 01-17-2012 08:31 PM

Count me in on the "let's go get our qb at whatever cost" bandwagon. The NFL today is a qb driven league, and we don't have one. Let's not settle this time.

SmootSmack 01-17-2012 08:53 PM

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I feel like a lot of people have changed their opinion on the whole trade picks to get your QB idea. I don't remember such a groundswell of support for Cutler

EARTHQUAKE2689 01-17-2012 09:07 PM

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I haven't changed Smooty.

Hog1 01-17-2012 09:20 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;876691]I haven't changed Smooty.[/quote]
^^^^^^^^^^

skinsfaninok 01-17-2012 09:28 PM

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[quote=Lotus;876675]Even if we do get Flynn, he can't be our only QB plan, right? We'd still need to draft a QB high IMO.[/quote]


Oh yes No doubt, I'd take Tannehill as well

Lotus 01-17-2012 09:30 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;876689]I feel like a lot of people have changed their opinion on the whole trade picks to get your QB idea. I don't remember such a groundswell of support for Cutler[/quote]

No, there was much much more debate about a Cutler deal.

And I have changed my tune. I thought before that we needed to create more depth, make a real team. Even then I argued mildly for a Bradford draft trade-up. Now, it seems to me, is the time to add the most important piece. The supporting cast is not the best but it is not bad either. It's time to add the lynchpin.

EARTHQUAKE2689 01-17-2012 09:36 PM

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Roy Helu, Evan Royster, Leonard Hankerson, Fred Davis, Chris Cooley, that's a pretty good young supporting cast. Throw in a FA WR and/or a 3rd round WR or LaMichael James along with RGIII and we could be st for a while.

44Deezel 01-17-2012 09:52 PM

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[quote=diehardskin2982;876676]^ Aggreed Flynn is not the end all-be all for this team See Matt Cassel, he may be nothing more then a system QB who looked good in one game.[/quote]

Yeah, but Cassell is not a bum, and he never looked as good as Flynn did. There are a lot of guys who can get hot and throw for over 300 yards and 3-4 TDs, but 480 and 6? Damn!

U could be right though. Maybe he's not all that. I remember a lot of posts during the tail end of the Jason Campbell era arguing that we shouldn't draft a QB until we had a solid foundation in place.

What if the Skins kept all their picks and built up the Offense this off-season with the exception of QB. Wouldn't they be in a much better position to draft a franchise QB next year? Imagine all 8 picks and free agency going towards O-line, WR, Secondary and LB.

And then next season bundle a bunch of picks to trade up for Matt Barkley or someone else. By that time, they should have a bonafide #1 and #2 WR to go along with a re-tooled O-line and more depth on Defense. Less holes would make it more palatable to trade picks to move up in the draft.

Then, their rookie QB would step into an ideal situation. I know the arguments about the Shanny's needing to win now or else the whole things gets blown up, and [B][U]I'm not necessarily proposing this[/U][/B]. Just saying it wouldn't be the end of the world to manage through one more season to come out on the other end with a solid team from top to bottom.

I envision the Redskins more in the mold of the Giants, Ravens and 49ers (solid all around) than the tecmo-bowl type teams of the Pats, Packers and Saints.

Any takers?

theJBexperience 01-17-2012 10:06 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;876695]Roy Helu, Evan Royster, Leonard Hankerson, Fred Davis, Chris Cooley, that's a pretty good young supporting cast. Throw in a FA WR and/or a 3rd round WR or LaMichael James along with RGIII and we could be st for a while.[/quote]

LaMichael James would be a nice addition. I wonder what round he'll drop to. Wouldn't mind taking a chance late on one of the Gators' speedsters either.

Lotus 01-17-2012 10:07 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;876693]Oh yes No doubt, I'd take Tannehill as well[/quote]

High five on the Tannehill-Flynn choice. :food-smil


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