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For Orakpo's position, you either you draft with a first rounder or you are going to pay a high price in free agency. It is the highest paid position besides QB.

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and one more thing we still have to sign a middle linebacker ,and what p.riley is asking for might be to much also.we mneed help bad.....

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Maybe we keep Jackson pray about Jenkins and let Rak go.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1061137]I agree, give him at least the transition tag. We've lost Rogers, Landry and gotten nothing in return let's not do it with Orakpo. Who out there is better than Orakpo? Pay him.[/quote]

I don't think it comes down to who's better. It comes down to getting a fair deal. We have so many holes. With the money it's going to take to pay him, we could fill multiple positions which could also help with special teams. I could see if Rak was a game changer, but he's not. I would try and go with the cheaper option in Jenkins and perhaps re-sign Jackson/Tapp. In 2012, the defense played better w/out him.

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I have to agree with most of the posts here... I really like Orakpo... Yet we really didn't seem to miss him THAT much when he was hurt for 14.5 games in 2012... At least not enough for the price he is asking with the current state the team is in... We have a lot of holes and the money could be used to add a few players at positions of need, not just one where even have a serviceable back up that played well in Raks absence .. I'm torn, dunno what's gonna happen but I'd be sad to see him go regardless... Torn.

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[quote=bigant;1061165]and one more thing we still have to sign a middle linebacker ,and what p.riley is asking for might be to much also.we mneed help bad.....[/quote]

Not sure why Riley is asking for a lot of money. To me he's just a serviceable LB that gets exposed in coverage.

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Ideally Rak will be back at 8.5 per and Riley back at 3.25 per. That's bout their value. Add d'quell Jackson at 5.5 per, I'll be a happy camper

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Jairus Byrd will be a Redskin. I will stake SmootSmack's reputation on it. (Or someone of equal value, like Jackie Chan........or Jackie Kennedy-Onassis)

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1061150]Man, I feel pretty bitter they won't get this done. Of all the guys to pay Rak is one of them. We let him go and it will come back to haunt us. The guy is what we need to keep on the defense.[/quote]

How so? With him? Our defense was one of the worst in the league. Without him, this team won the division.



Rak doesn't dominate. Period. I would equate him to a Cliff Anvril, and last time I checked, he was paid 8mil/yr.

Look at his number the last part of the season and then see who they were against. Back up left tackles. You do NOT pay a guy who's good, elite money. Let somebody else make that mistake.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1061174]How so? With him? Our defense was one of the worst in the league. Without him, this team won the division.[/quote]

That's certainly glossing over things. Many other factors at play.

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Looks like Vontae Davis will not be tagged.
I'd invite him to look around.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/player/vontaedavis/79901/profile]Vontae Davis, CB for the Indianapolis Colts at NFL.com[/url]

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1061176]Looks like Vontae Davis will not be tagged.
I'd invite him to look around.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/player/vontaedavis/79901/profile]Vontae Davis, CB for the Indianapolis Colts at NFL.com[/url][/quote]

As would I. Local guy

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[quote=Chico23231;1061172]Ideally Rak will be back at 8.5 per and Riley back at 3.25 per. That's bout their value. Add d'quell Jackson at 5.5 per, I'll be a happy camper[/quote]

I think most of us would like that but both Rak and Jackson are virtually certain to get more than that. I also wouldn't be surprised if Riley gets $4.5 from the Skins because he's worth more to us than he is to other teams (we're very thin at ILB and he knows our system).

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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1061174]How so? With him? Our defense was one of the worst in the league. Without him, this team won the division.



Rak doesn't dominate. Period. I would equate him to a Cliff Anvril, and last time I checked, he was paid 8mil/yr.

Look at his number the last part of the season and then see who they were against. Back up left tackles. You do NOT pay a guy who's good, elite money. Let somebody else make that mistake.[/


Our record those two years is neither here nor there. His position warrants a paid day. I know we have other holes, but go back and watch RK get handled the year before with out Rak. Yeah we won, but I put that on the offense not the defense.

If we need to build a staunch defense then let's start with our strength and that's our OLBs. Pay'em contracts for these types of players are only going to get heftier in the coming years with the cap climbing 20 mil the next 2 years and even higher in the future.

Put it this way I want to pay our player more than I want to pay a Paul Kruger troupe guy.

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Looks like they will tag him if they can't complete the deal.