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skinsfaninok 03-11-2012 03:10 PM

If they took RT at 4 it's just stupid.. Minnesota took ponder too high and hell they benched him for joe webb at one point last yr

irish 03-11-2012 03:15 PM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=Lotus;895392]Is anyone else feeling the sticker shock of the Griffin deal wearing off and pure joy arising from having a stud QB?[/quote]

RGIII was great in college but he hasnt taken a pro snap yet so he cant be called a stud yet.

skinsfaninok 03-11-2012 03:25 PM

[QUOTE=irish;895413]RGIII was great in college but he hasnt taken a pro snap yet so he cant be called a stud yet.[/QUOTE]

He's a stud athlete and we don't have many guys that scare defenses.. now we do, guys like Cam and Vick are nightmares for defenses. RG fits that category

Bubba305-ST21- 03-11-2012 03:30 PM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
Thank you EarthQuake for keeping up the wallpaper, my wish came true. you can take it down now though bc we will have a real one shortly. Now we just have to get our man some protection and some weapons and it should be fun to watch!

warriorzpath 03-11-2012 05:33 PM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
It's funny how there's several articles and posts that say the trade for the 2nd pick is [B][U]risky[/U][/B]. Gambles are considered risky by how much that can be potentially lost. What exactly can the redskins say they have right now that they would be losing?

They've been near the bottom of the division nearly every year. In order to turn things around they needed to take that chance and overpay. I consider it bold rather than risky.

redskins5044 03-11-2012 05:48 PM

[QUOTE=warriorzpath;895473]It's funny how there's several articles and posts that say the trade for the 2nd pick is [B][U]risky[/U][/B]. Gambles are considered risky by how much is can be potentially lost. What exactly can the redskins say the have right now that they would losing?

They've been near the bottom of the division nearly every year. In order to turn things around they needed to overpay. I consider it bold rather than risky.[/QUOTE]

I agree we have sucked for along time and haven't ever really had a QB that we would even think could be a franchise QB. Every player u pick is just a prospect. We took a chance for out QB, now let's see what happens.


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EARTHQUAKE2689 03-11-2012 05:49 PM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[QUOTE=Bubba305-ST21-;895416]Thank you EarthQuake for keeping up the wallpaper, my wish came true. you can take it down now though bc we will have a real one shortly. Now we just have to get our man some protection and some weapons and it should be fun to watch![/QUOTE]



I told you that I wouldn't let you down. Once I know his true number, I'll take it down.

Hail to the Redskins 03-11-2012 07:04 PM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
Here's a thought...

Anyone have a thought that the Skins have contacted the Colts about their plans at #1?

Basically, if we KNOW they are taking Luck, then we can start getting all of the parameters in place for a contract before the draft, so RGIII can dive right into the playbook (just like Luck).

I mean, would the Colts share that info (if they are drafting Luck or RGIII) if Allen asks? What would keep them from talking and sharing that info?

los panda 03-11-2012 07:07 PM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=Hail to the Redskins;895526]Here's a thought...

Anyone have a thought that the Skins have contacted the Colts about their plans at #1?

Basically, if we KNOW they are taking Luck, then we can start getting all of the parameters in place for a contract before the draft, so RGIII can dive right into the playbook (just like Luck).

I mean, would the Colts share that info (if they are drafting Luck or RGIII) if Allen asks? What would keep them from talking and sharing that info?[/quote]i don't see it being an issue, i believe he'll dive right in no matter

mitch e 03-11-2012 07:07 PM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
I'am glad we are getting RGIII, but has anyone heard if he has made any statements about comming to the Skins?

GTripp0012 03-11-2012 07:10 PM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=warriorzpath;895473]It's funny how there's several articles and posts that say the trade for the 2nd pick is [B][U]risky[/U][/B]. Gambles are considered risky by how much that can be potentially lost. What exactly can the redskins say they have right now that they would be losing?[/quote]Wins between 2012-2016?

The gamble is of course that you win more games as a function of having Robert Griffin play quarterback than you would with someone else (Ryan Tannehill) playing quarterback and with three declining free agents instead of three ascending draft picks (assuming 53 man rosters throughout).

You lose the gamble if Tannehill + 3 ascending players would have outperformed Griffin and three free agents who we wouldn't have needed if we had draft picks. You win the gamble if Griffin and whoever we sign to help Griffin wins more games than Tannehill and those picks would have.

los panda 03-11-2012 07:16 PM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=mitch e;895528]I'am glad we are getting RGIII, but has anyone heard if he has made any statements about comming to the Skins?[/quote]no, i haven't. he probably whispered sweet nothings into their ear at the combine

TheMalcolmConnection 03-11-2012 07:31 PM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=GTripp0012;895531]Wins between 2012-2016?

The gamble is of course that you win more games as a function of having Robert Griffin play quarterback than you would with someone else (Ryan Tannehill) playing quarterback and with three declining free agents instead of three ascending draft picks (assuming 53 man rosters throughout).

You lose the gamble if Tannehill + 3 ascending players would have outperformed Griffin and three free agents who we wouldn't have needed if we had draft picks. You win the gamble if Griffin and whoever we sign to help Griffin wins more games than Tannehill and those picks would have.[/quote]

That's ultra-subjective though. Even though it's easier to say that Griffin/Tannehill more directly helped/hurt the Redskins/_____ team. It's so much more difficult to say anyone other than a QB directly made _____ team better.

Paintrain 03-11-2012 07:34 PM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
Taking our Redskins fan caps off for a minute, who is under more pressure by 2015, the Redskins and RGIII, the Browns or the Rams?

-Redskins gave 3 picks (2012 2nd, 2013 1st, 2014 1st) to move up for their QB of the future. Does he have to develop into a top 5-10 QB in the league for this trade to be a win? How about if he's playing at a high level but the levels of talent around him are substandard because of the 3 top level players they are giving up over the next 3 years?

-Browns didn't meet the demands for the pick.. If they go with McCoy or even Tannehill or Weeden in the late 1st and are back in the top 10 looking for a QB sometime in the next 4 years will they be ridiculed for not going strong enough?
-Rams got all the picks they wanted.. Don't they need to be a Super Bowl competitor in 2015 or so in order to call the trade a success for them? If they miss on even 2 of their upcoming 5 1st round picks over the next three years, those picks can impact the salary cap and the tendency to hold onto first rounders hoping they develop and miss out on suitable replacements.

Who's got the most pressure to perform? Redskins, Browns or Rams.

Alvin Walton 03-11-2012 07:38 PM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
Rams have zero pressure.
They didnt need to draft a QB this year and moved to the sixth pick where they will get a blue chip player of their choice.
Its nothing but win win for them.


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