Re: Joe Gibbs: "Campbell is ready to play"!
 

No matter who is in at QB if the Skins are losing they are losing. It's as simple as that. Campbell could turn out to be the greatest QB of all time but if he looked like garbage for 2 straight years that would be 2 years of begging for the back-up to come in.

Re: Joe Gibbs: "Campbell is ready to play"!
 

[QUOTE=dmek25;237152]this whole thing makes me laugh. if Campbell would start against Dallas, and throw 3 interceptions, and really suck, then people around here would be calling for Collins to start. and ripping Gibbs for picking Campbell in the draft[/QUOTE]

I doubt you're right.

Re: Joe Gibbs: "Campbell is ready to play"!
 

[QUOTE=Daseal;237088]We'll be much more patient with a young QB than an old QB.[/QUOTE]

The backup QB is always the more popular QB amongst the fans. If Campbell looked horrible the whole season, I doubt we'd be very patient with him the following season.

Re: Joe Gibbs: "Campbell is ready to play"!
 

[QUOTE=dmek25;237152]this whole thing makes me laugh. if Campbell would start against Dallas, and throw 3 interceptions, and really suck, then people around here would be calling for Collins to start. and ripping Gibbs for picking Campbell in the draft[/QUOTE]

I would tend to agree. Patience doesn't seem to be a virtue among many here. There are already those who say that Campbell must be a bust anyway, otherwise he would be playing already. Bottom line is, as has been said, the backups and the ones that got away always seem to be the "best" choices.

Re: Joe Gibbs: "Campbell is ready to play"!
 

[QUOTE=TAFKAS;237176]I would tend to agree. Patience doesn't seem to be a virtue among many here. There are already those who say that Campbell must be a bust anyway, otherwise he would be playing already. Bottom line is, as has been said, the backups and the ones that got away always seem to be the "best" choices.[/QUOTE]

i totally disagree. if Campbell started and stunk up the field, we'd all attribute it to youth and inexperience and we'd expect him only to get better. that's the benefit of youth. something no one could say about Brunell.

remember how patient fans were with Ramsey (and not Gibbs), they all expected him to just get better with experience but alas he never got the chance to lose (and learn from) as many games as Brunell has.

Re: Joe Gibbs: "Campbell is ready to play"!
 

True enough. We gave Ramsey a ZILLION free passes.

Re: Joe Gibbs: "Campbell is ready to play"!
 

[QUOTE=illdefined;237182]i totally disagree. if Campbell started and stunk up the field, we'd all attribute it to youth and inexperience and we'd expect him only to get better. that's the benefit of youth. something no one could say about Brunell.

remember how patient fans were with Ramsey (and not Gibbs), they all expected him to just get better with experience but alas he never got the chance to lose (and learn from) as many games as Brunell has.[/QUOTE]

Not everyone would attribute it to youth. We both know there are those here who called JC a bad pick from the start and are chomping at the bit to say look at how horrible our talent evaluation is, and we mortgaged the future for a mid-level (at best) QB.

Re: Joe Gibbs: "Campbell is ready to play"!
 

[QUOTE=dmek25;237157]my point is, our perception of where this season is heading, and coach Gibbs' perception are 2 totally different things. we see doom and gloom, and the coaching staff see them tweaking a couple of things and righting the ship. there is no way Campbell gets on the field this year unless brunell gets hurt, or the redskins are mathematically eliminated[/QUOTE]

Well if that's true we are going to have to draw straws to see who gets to put him out of commishion.

Re: Joe Gibbs: "Campbell is ready to play"!
 

[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;237183]True enough. We gave Ramsey a ZILLION free passes.[/QUOTE]

True enough Gibbs gave him at least 900 seconds.

Re: Joe Gibbs: "Campbell is ready to play"!
 

[QUOTE=TAFKAS;237185]Not everyone would attribute it to youth. We both know there are those here who called JC a bad pick from the start and are chomping at the bit to say look at how horrible our talent evaluation is, and we mortgaged the future for a mid-level (at best) QB.[/QUOTE]

Why don't you just put a link to one of my posts?:D

Re: Joe Gibbs: "Campbell is ready to play"!
 

How could people possibly show patience around here????? we've made the playoffs twice since 92 (and barely, 10-6 both years), meanwhile our divsion has been garbage every since the cowboys dynasty ended, but we managed to do nothing. The fans have been patient with gibbs in his second stint, However, patience right now would be unwarrented due to the fact that the skins are digging themselves a deep deep hole right now. We always seem to manage 7 victories or so to prevent panick, maybe a terrible season is what we need to identify the need for an overhaul. I still love watching the skins, even if I only get the joy of 6-8 wins per year. Last year was a dream for me........we went 10-6 haha.

Re: Joe Gibbs: "Campbell is ready to play"!
 

It's difficult for us as fans to think of Campbell going into his 3rd season with US having no clue what he can do but...even if we have no clue that doesn't mean the coaching staff has no clue. Gibbs in the past has let young QB's watch and learn then thrown them into the fire to see them atleast have moderate success(Rypien instantly comes to mind)...because he knew what they could do even if we didn't.

Still I would love to see Campbell ASAP cause Brunell is taking us nowhere and either is Collins so sooner or later the move has to be made to find a successer...the sooner the better IMO.

Re: Joe Gibbs: "Campbell is ready to play"!
 

Gibbs saying Campbell is ready to play is such a non issue...what's he supposed to say? Oh he sucks...he needs another year on the bench...of course he will say he's ready to play. Unless Gibbs makes a comment about Brunell not getting the job done we are never going to see cambell.

Re: Joe Gibbs: "Campbell is ready to play"!
 

No, he'd say, "He's looking OK, but he still has some work to do."

Re: Joe Gibbs: "Campbell is ready to play"!
 

I believe this as much as I believed Gibbs when he said Ramsey was his starter.