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[quote=jsarno;303023]I'm sure they will have a ring eventually. But throughout history, the only good scrambling QB to win a super bowl was Steve Young. But he was one of the best qb's EVER (i think he's THE best). He could knock a can off someone's head at 50 yards away.[/quote]

I've had too many beers to make a good argument here, but there are several scrambling quarterbacks to win the superbowl and steve young isn't a top ten ever quarterback. best ever. no way.

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I raided your moms house...ohhh snappp

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[QUOTE=wilsowilso;303077]I've had too many beers to make a good argument here, but there are several scrambling quarterbacks to win the superbowl and steve young isn't a top ten ever quarterback. no way.[/QUOTE]

I have to agree with him on this...

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[quote=Redskins8588;303080]I have to agree with him on this...[/quote]

You are both on the crazy horse!

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[quote=angryssg;303092]You are both on the crazy horse![/quote]

Before I go to bed let me ask you to make your case that Steve Young is the greatest QB ever???? I doubt you will post a response because it's not possible without making a fool of yourself.

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[QUOTE=wilsowilso;303077]I've had too many beers to make a good argument here, but there are several scrambling quarterbacks to win the superbowl and steve young isn't a top ten ever quarterback. best ever. no way.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it's the beer. Cause I'd like for you to name 10 QB's better.
Also, please name other scrambling qb's that have won a SuperBowl.

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Elway and Favre are scrambling quarterbacks just to start with recent champions.

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[quote=wilsowilso;303098]Before I go to bed let me ask you to make your case that Steve Young is the greatest QB ever???? I promise you will not post any response because it's not possible without making a fool of yourself.[/quote]

Never said best ever. I said most complete. Because he had the rare ability to read the defense make accurate throws both long and short. And had the ability to scramble. He has also won the big one. All of those make him the most complete. He could do it all. Is he the best ever? No, but he is up there.

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[quote=wilsowilso;303103]Elway and Favre are scrambling quarterbacks just to start with recent champions.[/quote]

They were not! Steve Young was in the same category speed wise as VY, and MV. I said same category, not as fast as.

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Vick is a lamer

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[QUOTE=angryssg;303105]They were not! Steve Young was in the same category speed wise as VY, and MV. I said same category, not as fast as.[/QUOTE]

I wouldnt put Favre in that category but I most certainly would put Elway there. Again like you said not fast as but in the same category.

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[QUOTE=angryssg;303104]Never said best ever. I said most complete. Because he had the rare ability to read the defense make accurate throws both long and short. And had the ability to scramble. He has also won the big one. All of those make him the most complete. He could do it all. Is he the best ever? No, but he is up there.[/QUOTE]

Not to mention that he was throwing to the best WR ever to step foot on the field. That alone makes any average QB look good. Not saying that Young is average, he is above average but I just dont buy into his hype.

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[quote=Redskins8588;303108]I wouldnt put Favre in that category but I most certainly would put Elway there. Again like you said not fast as but in the same category.[/quote]

Was Elway ever the highest paid player in the league? I don't know I am just asking. Young was.

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[quote=angryssg;303110]Was Elway ever the highest paid player in the league? I don't know I am just asking. Young was.[/quote]

Welcome to when an argument turns to dust.

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[QUOTE=wilsowilso;303098]Before I go to bed let me ask you to make your case that Steve Young is the greatest QB ever???? I doubt you will post a response because it's not possible without making a fool of yourself.[/QUOTE]

How about the fact that Steve Young is the ALL TIME career leader in passer rating with a 96.8. He also had the single season record until Peyton beat him in 04.
By the way, Peyton's career passer rating is 93.5.
He led the league in completion percentage for 4 consecutive years. (94-97) Only Len Dawson with 6 consecutive years, did better.
He also had the 3rd best ever single season completion percentage 70.28 in 94.
He holds the record (tied) for most consecutive games with 300 or more passing yards. 6.
Tied for best all time in most seasons leading the league in touchdowns. 4. Including 3 consecutive seasons which is 2nd best all time.
2nd all time in most seasons leading the league in average gain. 5. And most consecutive seasons. 4.

How many qb's put up numbers like him...especially when you figure in he ran for 4239 yards, and 43 Rushing tds over his career?

Not including Tampa, the first year he was a full fledged starter in SF, he was an all pro...and went on to be an all pro for 7 consecutive seasons. (92-98) He played 3 games in 99 and retired. It's a shame he lost the majority of 5 seasons in SF as a backup, and started his career in tampa (2 years), otherwise his numbers would be astronomical.
He has all the tools. He is extremely accurate, had a strong arm, was very fast and could scramble with the best of them, and he found the endzone frequently. What more could you want...the man was a winner. Best ever.