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skinsfan69 09-11-2007 11:45 AM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[quote=heybigstar;350299]My gut feeling is that Springs is not on great terms with Williams, Gibbs, and / or Snyder.. He just said this to the post:

Springs said. "[B]I don't know what Coach Gibbs is talking about[/B]." Springs, who rebuffed requests for him to slash his salary in the offseason, said that he is not anticipating a quick change to his starting status. "Start? I doubt it," Springs said. "Usually when you start the season off like that, that's probably the way it is."

Springs said that he is okay with his role, and was not shocked to be on the bench, though privately some players said that the coaches did not clarify the starting situation with the corners until game day, and did not speak with them to clarify their status. Springs laughed that off.

"[B]Man, with my salary this year I'm not trippin,[/B]' " he said.

The two bolded comments look like shots at Gibbs and Snyder.[/quote]

Springs is already hurt. He's clashing with the coaches. He's bitter about the team asking him to take a pay cut. He's being cocky about how much $ he makes. This is w/out question his last year with this team. But right now we need him cause Smoot looked so bad on Sun. I see why Minn. got rid of him. Chambers is a good WR but jeez. If I remember correctly isn't Smoot suppose to be a bump and run corner?

Chief X_Phackter 09-11-2007 12:59 PM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
Are we still 100% sure that Archuleta was the mole in the locker room last year? I personally believe it was Archuleta, but hmmmm. Obviously we don't know the whole story, only soundbites and sporadic media coverage, and a lot of it could be taken out of context.

I hope this is a whole lot of nothing. Springs should start, period. Bring in Rogers for a third CB.

offiss 09-11-2007 01:12 PM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[QUOTE=MonkManiac;350384]Gibbs would never utilize playing time to punish a player for not taking a pay cut. Even as team president, he does not negotiate contracts or manage the salary cap.

Springs comes off as sounding petty, money-obssessed, and self-centered. True, football is a business, but Springs is a vet and should know better about what to say and what not to say to the media. Was he pissed at Gibbs for talking about it at his press conference? Maybe. But come on, OF COURSE reporters were going to ask him about it. Gibbs had to have some sort of explanation - a no comment would have been even worse - and the explanation he gave was gentler than perhaps he could have been.

Gibbs' word choice struck me as sounding an awful lot like code for "Springs was dogging it in practice last week, so we didn't start him." This doesn't sound like the Shawn Springs we all know, but there are very other plausible explanations for why he didn't start. If he was injured, he would have been on the injury report. Gibbs said that the team was worried about him earlier in the week, and the injury report was due on Friday.

Hopefully this situation is remedied in the coming days. It's not a good thing at all to hear your top corner say "I don't know what Coach Gibbs is talking about."[/QUOTE]

Really? I remember the comments made to L.Coles by Snyder, something like watching the games on TV.

mlmpetert 09-11-2007 02:18 PM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;350527]Are we still 100% sure that Archuleta was the mole in the locker room last year? I personally believe it was Archuleta, but hmmmm. Obviously we don't know the whole story, only soundbites and sporadic media coverage, and a lot of it could be taken out of context.

I hope this is a whole lot of nothing. Springs should start, period. Bring in Rogers for a third CB.[/quote]

I allways thought it was Springs. I thought most people thought it was Springs. I'm glad he did it though, I think its humbled GW and brought a lot of the disfunction out of the coaching staff.

I hope they give the starting pos. back to Springs.

Dont teams have to report injuries by Thursday?

MTK 09-11-2007 02:24 PM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;350527]Are we still 100% sure that Archuleta was the mole in the locker room last year? I personally believe it was Archuleta, but hmmmm. Obviously we don't know the whole story, only soundbites and sporadic media coverage, and a lot of it could be taken out of context.

I hope this is a whole lot of nothing. Springs should start, period. Bring in Rogers for a third CB.[/quote]

I thought it was quite obvious that it was AA.

He's not here, right?

MTK 09-11-2007 02:25 PM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[quote=mlmpetert;350564]I allways thought it was Springs. I thought most people thought it was Springs. I'm glad he did it though, I think its humbled GW and brought a lot of the disfunction out of the coaching staff.

I hope they give the starting pos. back to Springs.

Dont teams have to report injuries by Thursday?[/quote]

I never understood why people thought it was Springs.

hooskins 09-11-2007 02:28 PM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[quote=Mattyk72;350571]I never understood why people thought it was Springs.[/quote]

Um I am almost positive it wasn't Springs. He was quoted numerous times after the incident saying he didn't say such a thing because he was never raised to talk behind someones back like that. He was also somewhat upset the media thought it was him.

I dont see how it couldnt be AA.

MonkManiac 09-11-2007 02:32 PM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[QUOTE=offiss;350534]Really? I remember the comments made to L.Coles by Snyder, something like watching the games on TV.[/QUOTE]

That's Snyder, not Gibbs.

SmootSmack 09-11-2007 02:47 PM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
Is anyone else peeved by the misplaced apostrophe?

hooskins 09-11-2007 02:48 PM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[quote=SmootSmack;350598]Is anyone else peeved by the misplaced apostrophe?[/quote]

Yeah I am, but I thought I might be an ass to mention it. Fix it SS!

WillH 09-11-2007 03:47 PM

Re: Gibbs hinted that Springs is hiding an injury
 
Whether Springs is bitter about he contract dispute or was taking a STAB at the coaches or not, I think it is safe to say that Gibbs is not one to let the size of ones contract or there unwillingness to take a paycut affect the way he coaches his team.

It is possible, however, that Springs' attitude toward the coaching staff has had an effect on his playing time, whether it is directly related, or he is just not performing well in practice as a result.

I have to assume that the blame should fall on Springs for any such controversy. The NFL is a business and if you cannot separate contract dealings from gameplay then you are not being a professional.

It seems to me that Gibbs was being honest when he said the decision was based off what they had seen in practice, and that Springs WILL start at some point this season.

If those comments were truly made by Springs, I think it was way of base and misguided. He was probably just frustrated that he didn't start, and rather then take the responsibility on himself he placed it elsewhere. BAD MOVE

Certainly this is all speculation, but I think it is more likely then some FO conspiracy against good players, manifested within the coaches decisions.

#56fanatic 09-11-2007 04:08 PM

Re: Gibbs hinted that Springs is hiding an injury
 
As JC from the post redskin insider said : it does seem to be some sort of punishment on the benching of Springs. He is generally around Redskin park most of the week, practices and meetings, and says that Springs is the best corner they have. He does not feel its anything to do with injury.

like i said earlier, if is in injured then why was he playing at all??? Also, doesn't Gibbs cherish the players that play nicked up, that fight on the field. This stinks of Snyder and his personal vendatas(forgive me if that is spelled wrong)

luvstar99 09-11-2007 05:43 PM

Re: Gibbs hinted that Springs is hiding an injury
 
The entire Springs situation is starting to sound like a Lavar repeat in 2007.

mlmpetert 09-11-2007 07:02 PM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[quote=Mattyk72;350571]I never understood why people thought it was Springs.[/quote]

I wish I had a good reason why I thought/think it was Springs. I guess just a gut feeling with influence from the media.

Either way just saw his interview on Sports Net and he said that he doesnt care who starts that it doesnt matter, whatever it takes to win. But he said it with a smerk and kinda "whatever" attitude. I cant really describe the way he said it, but it definately wasnt sincere.

I think in high school you could describe whats going on here as "drama", hopefully not anything to big yet. I really hope theres no bitterness or spite between GW and Springs.

SmootSmack 09-13-2007 02:29 AM

Re: Gibb's hinted that Spring's is hiding an injury
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72;350571]I never understood why people thought it was Springs.[/QUOTE]

I thought Tom Friend had said it wasn't Springs, I'll see if I can dig that up.

As for Springs claiming to be fully healthy, maybe he is but when's the last time any player admitted to being hurt (short of being on IR)? Players always say they're fine until they absolutely can't take the field.


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