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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;368109]We've been playing the pass all season long and, if my memory serves me, we haven't had anyone rush for 100 yards on us. Our defense is better than any defense you faced.

Welcome to the board by the way. We always welcome fans of other teams, provided they are like you, don't troll, and genuinely want to discuss the game.[/QUOTE]

so what your saying is the skins are going to rush 4 and play zone with the lb's. I can see welker having a 16 catch game if this happens. You might start out like that , but will change quickly having to bring up a safety to help in the slot leaving moss or stallworth one on one on the outside, plus the fact if you only rush 4-5 brady will have time to make sandwiches back there

Re: 12th's 5 Reasons Why The Skins Beat N.E.
 

The NE run game has to be respected. They can run the ball on us if we sit back in the cover 2 a lot.

I see GW mixing it up a lot w/his calls, maybe seeing how much pressure our front 4 can generate before calling blitzes.

Re: 12th's 5 Reasons Why The Skins Beat N.E.
 

[quote=chris66;368119]so what your saying is the skins are going to rush 4 and play zone with the lb's. I can see welker having a 16 catch game if this happens. You might start out like that , but will change quickly having to bring up a safety to help in the slot leaving moss or stallworth one on one on the outside, plus the fact if you only rush 4-5 brady will have time to make sandwiches back there[/quote]

try that with welker in the middle and he might end up in the injured reserved

Re: 12th's 5 Reasons Why The Skins Beat N.E.
 

I see the Skins going into the coliseum aka Gillette Stadium and running the rock down their throats. I see the Skins putting together their best effort and coming home with the biggest win of the year. Greg Williams needs to take zone blitzing to another level. Let Taylor and Landry prove they can cover the deep ball and run support with the best of them. Blitz the hell out of them dont let Brady get in a rhythm. We win this game I'm putting my chips on the pretend table who ever wants in get in!! LOL

Re: 12th's 5 Reasons Why The Skins Beat N.E.
 

[quote=chris66;368119]so what your saying is the skins are going to rush 4 and play zone with the lb's. I can see welker having a 16 catch game if this happens. You might start out like that , but will change quickly having to bring up a safety to help in the slot leaving moss or stallworth one on one on the outside, plus the fact if you only rush 4-5 brady will have time to make sandwiches back there[/quote]


This will be interesting. But for reasons I've posted, I just don't see N.E. bombs away with Taylor back there. Yes, Welker and Stallworth are nice, but they haven't really faced three starting corners all year either.

Furthermore, as soon as you guys bring your punter on the field after the first drive, both sides will know it's time to dig in and fight.

Re: 12th's 5 Reasons Why The Skins Beat N.E.
 

[quote=skinsfan69;368111]You could say that we haven't exactly played anyone either. And they beat Dallas at Dallas pretty easily. Do you think we could go to Dallas and hang 48 on them? No way in hell.[/quote]


But do you see Dallas or New England hanging 48 on us.

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[quote=skinsfan69;368031]They have a great offense but [b]they do not have a great defense.[/b] People have been scoring points against them.[/quote]

Don't look now Mr.Wizard, but they are ranked slightly HIGHER than Washington in total defense.

Patriots are #4 in overall defense, Redskins #5
Patriots are #4 vs the pass, Redskins #8
Patriots are #9 vs the run, Redskins #5.

The only way to beat the Patriots is to generate a ton of turnovers.

The other way to beat them is with a bat while they are sleeping.

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;368128]But do you see Dallas or New England hanging 48 on us.[/QUOTE]

New England is averaging 40 points per game. If we can knock off that average by 9 points, our defense will have done its job. I'll post this in the official prediction thread, but I see this game resulting in a 34-24 win for the Pats.

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Can we let Jason Campbell call his own plays this week? It can't be worse than what we have seen so far. Maybe he finds a rhythm. At the very least we would not have any delay of game penalties while we decide plays by committee.

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[quote=freddyg12;368120]The NE run game has to be respected. They can run the ball on us if we sit back in the cover 2 a lot.
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RBs against Skins in 2007:

1-R. Brown 32 yds, 2.9 ypc/J. Chatman 15 yds, 2.1 ypc
2-B. Westbrook 96 yds, 5.6 ypc (long of 27 yds)
3-D. Ward 94 yds (26 rushes), 3.6 ypc/Droughns 3 yds, 1.0 ypc
4-BYE
5-DET: K. Jones 48 yds, 4.4 ypc/T. Bell 15 yds, 3.8 ypc
6-GB: D. Wynn 37 yds, 2.8 ypc/V. Morency 11 yds, 2.8 ypc
7-ARI: E. James 83 yds (27 rushes), 3.1 ypc

I was curious. [IMG]http://www.teamzx2.com/Smileys/others/cheesy.gif[/IMG]


So no RB has hit 100 yards yet this year. Brian Westbrook was closest with 96 yards, helped by a 27 yard-run.

The Skins allow an average of 80.7 rushing yards a game, 5th best in the NFL. For comparison's sake, the Patriots give up 92.7 a game.


If Maroney plays, he might have a slow day. If they have to rely on Faulk and Evans, they should just keep 5 WRs in all game. The Skins do have 8 INTs this year, near the top of the league (leaders have 10 but some didn't have bye week yet). 2 went back for TDs (tops in NFL)

They'll have to beat us through the air, which they're certainly capable of, but it will be the biggest test to the Pats so far this season. They haven't really played a good pass D yet, even the Cowboys are middle-of-the-league against the pass, not very good.

Our secondary is great. Our whole D is actually, now ranked #5 in the NFL, we were #3 last week. We're still ranked #1 in the NFC.

Sure I'm nervous, but because of our D, we have the best chance of anyone so far to beat the Patriots, or even play them close.

Re: 12th's 5 Reasons Why The Skins Beat N.E.
 

[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;368134]New England is averaging 40 points per game. If we can knock off that average by 9 points, our defense will have done its job. I'll post this in the official prediction thread, but I see this game resulting in a 34-24 win for the Pats.[/quote]

The Patriots are averaging 40 points per game. The Redskins are averging 20 points per game against much worse defenses than that of the Patriots. New England has a top 5 defense and they are playing at home. Barring Brady, Moss and Welker catching the 24 hour clap, or, the stadium falling down, I'd say 34-13 Patriots is more accurate.

Re: 12th's 5 Reasons Why The Skins Beat N.E.
 

right now I am realistically saying 38-24 Pats but my homer prediction is 30-24 in OT Redskins win.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;368137]The Patriots are averaging 40 points per game. [B]The Redskins are averging 20 points per game against much worse defenses than that of the Patriots.[/B] New England has a top 5 defense and they are playing at home. Barring Brady, Moss and Welker catching the 24 hour clap, or, the stadium falling down, I'd say 34-13 Patriots is more accurate.[/quote]


You're wrong about the "much worse" statement.

[U]Team - rank[/U]
Pats - 4th
Giants - 8th
Cardinals - 9th
Eagles - 11th
Packers - 15th

The Lions and Dolphins are the only bad Ds we've played and we won both games. The Dolphins were fully healthy then too, they've played without Zach Thomas for a few games since.

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[quote=chris66;368057]Thanks man I appreciate that. It should be a good game this Sunday. unfortunately your offense needs to figure out how to get first downs or your D will be wiped out by halftime.

I see a lot of posters knocking Miami on this board, but they were the only team so far to limit the pats to 51 offensive possessions. Usually they are in the high 60's[/quote]


I have the utmost respect for Tom Brady and this offense, but I dont think people understand how good this defense is. This is the same coach who took Randy Moss away every time we have played him, remember he shut Randy down with Garnell Wilds covering him, thats right. I really think this is the only secondary in the league that can match up with you guys, not saying we will shut you down, but we definately match up, I hope Welker is ready to get hit in the mouth. Its always cool to meet a fan from another team thats not a jackass.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;368133]Don't look now Mr.Wizard, but they are ranked slightly HIGHER than Washington in total defense.

Patriots are #4 in overall defense, Redskins #5
Patriots are #4 vs the pass, Redskins #8
Patriots are #9 vs the run, Redskins #5.

The only way to beat the Patriots is to generate a ton of turnovers.

The other way to beat them is with a bat while they are sleeping.[/quote]

You dont think playing the #1 passing offense in Detroit and completely shutting them down will help, Oh wait... we did that twice after we had to face Green Bay who had the top ranked passing offense, and guess what? we shut them down again