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Williams is probably taking Danny Smith with him as well.

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[QUOTE=skinsguy;376992]With stability comes the wins, but it's not an overnight success. [B]Gibbs is trying to undo the losers mentality of this team that has hung around ever since he left the first time. I honestly don't see how he could do that within five years let alone three or four. [/B]But like SS said, this season is far from over, and if this team makes it to the post season this year, then it moves up closer to turning the corner next year. I mean, I can only imagine having a young QB who has playoff experience with a team that was riddled with injuries. There are a lot of positives to this team. Unfortunately for us, it has been the little things that have kept us from turning the corner earlier.

If we were getting blown out in ever loss we have had since Gibbs has come back, then I'd be worried, but that isn't the case. There is a fine line between being a top team and being a losing team. I believe you make a coaching change now, and you remove all doubt that this team's stablity will be gone, and everything we have worked up to at this point will be scraped.[/QUOTE]

Five years? It didn't take that long for Gibbs to turn it around in his first stint, and the Skins were down in the dumps then too. There are just way too many uncharacteristic issues this team has with Joe Gibbs leading them.

I agree that Gibbs shouldn't step down quite yet. Only problem is, does [I]he[/I] agree with us?

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as much as i blame gibbs this time around i blame sydner too. We will never win with little danny unless we change the front office

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[QUOTE=CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR;377049]as much as i blame gibbs this time around i blame sydner too. We will never win with little danny unless we change the front office[/QUOTE]

Because he hasn't hired a GM?

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yes gibbs is not a personel man. We need someone who knows what he doing. Instead of tradint 3 and 4 rounds picks for lloyd and duckett those picks could be starting olinemen or a DE for us right now. Remember Gibbs said that Howard had no wholes. We could have had Pickens and Vincent in that draft after our superbowl fun in the 92 draft. What have we done with Danny in charge>>> One playoff win in 2005 since 2000 wow

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[quote=CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR;377059]yes gibbs is not a personel man. We need someone who knows what he doing. Instead of tradint 3 and 4 rounds picks for lloyd and duckett those picks could be starting olinemen or a DE for us right now. Remember Gibbs said that Howard had no wholes. We could have had Pickens and Vincent in that draft after our superbowl fun in the 92 draft. What have we done with Danny in charge>>> One playoff win in 2005 since 2000 wow[/quote]I recall the "no holes" description of Desmond Howard well. That pick followed by Shuler and Michael Westbrook, set the Skins back for years.

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Gibbs will be back for his last season. I still have faith that he will make something happen while he's back in DC. I still think the Redskins are in far better shape now than since he left... Shuler, Frerotte, Matthews, Banks, Wuerfuel, etc etc... Gibbs will be back next season for his final attempt at bringing the Redskins back to glory.

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GW will be our next coach for sure. as we are already set on defense. and let the offense run by AL saunders. continuity is a must for this team.
Gibbs will be active in scouting as team president. thats the best senario for us,

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bring our injured OL back and we can do what we want to do on the field

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I think this is a non-issue anyway. Gibbs will be back for year 5 of his contract.

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[quote=70Chip;376615]I don't see how anyone who's been paying attention to the NFL for the last 20 years could get excited by the prospect of Bill Cowher.[/quote]


are you joking?? The guy had to Steelers in playoffs every year, competative every year. He bring stability, success, a winning formula, superbowl in the modern era of the NFL. I dont see how anyone who has watched football over the last 20 years wouldn't have some sort of excitement if he was a candidate to be your teams head coach.

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[quote=Oakland Red;376627]Of all the stupid, shallow ideas, this one takes the cake. This team was nearly destroyed by Dan Snyder, and the only reason we have hope for the future is Joe Gibbs' leadership. It takes time to get the mess Coach Gibbs was handed into the team everyone wants. The building blocks are in place, but we need to get to a point where Jason Campbell has some more experience and we can get free of the injury bug.

Snyder changed coaches all the time and the people who want Coach Gibbs to be fired are just as faulty as Snyder was before he brought Joe back.

If Coach Gibbs is not here as the CEO/Coach, we are in trouble. I give Snyder credit for bringing Coach Gibbs back - Snyder knew that he would be run out of town before long if he didn't do something dramatic and let go of the reins.

I hope that Coach Gibbs will stay beyond his current contract, get the team into top shape, and then stay on as General Manager.

I think that as soon as next year we could contend for the Super Bowl title, if we have a reasonable injury picture, and Campbell continues to develop.

PATIENCE is what is needed. Any decisions based on short sighted impatience are only going to lead to misery for Redskins fans.[/quote]


Lets bring you into todays NFL. Gibbs has been here 4 years. lets see 5-11, 10-6, 5-11 and now 5-4. same stupid stuff happens today, that happened 4 years ago. in 4 years there should be a change in terms of wins and losses, a gradual increase in production. With the payroll , the talent, the unlimited resourses of money this team should not be fighting year in and year out to finish .500. In todays NFL you have to win and win now. If you rebuild, then the 3rd year of that rebuilding you should be competing and going to the playoffs. We are stuck in neutral every damn year. Plus in todays NFL you have about a 4 year stretch with the current roster. This is why the draft and talent scouts are so important. so when you have to dump players (marcus washington, griffin, portis, moss) in the next year, we have talent that can step in and never miss a beat. we are far from that!!

lets go back a few years, Joe Gibbs did not build his teams in the 80's and 90's. He coached the talent drafted for him, and brought in by Casserly and Bethard. I do not want Joe to become the Talent evaluator for our organization.
Look, Joe has to go brother. we are in no better shape now than we were 4 years ago, hell 6 years ago for that fact. I dont want to hear about how we have this guy or that guy. fact is no matter who we have here right now, we are not winning. we didn't win with Norv, Marty (8-8), Spurrier and we aren't winning with Joe.

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven;377040]Good points from both of you. My sense is that if Dan Snyder had the power to dismiss assistant coaches, Williams would have been gone last year, and Saunders would have been shown the door at some point over the last few games. [B]Snyder's patience has no doubt worn thin for these two guys.[/B] I'd bet he's chomping at the bit to take the axe to someone.

But he won't dare touch Gibbs.[/QUOTE]

Not trying to be a smartass, but how do you know "Snyder's patience has no doubt worn thin...?" Have there been public statements or interviews that would confirm this statement? Also, all the talk about Cowher possibly coming to D.C. has not addressed the very real possibility of him going somewhere else like Charlotte. They suck more than we do and they may be ready to pull the trigger for a new coach after this season. Didn't Cowher purchase property in N.C. somewhere anyway?

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IMO, yesterday is the classic example of why Danny wont keep GW on as head coach.

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I dont really care who our next coach is, just as long as they are aggressive. I mean look at some of the younger coaches and how aggressive they are compared to the older close to the chest coaches. Now I am not saying that we need a coach to come in and show his cards right off the bat but yesterday's game showed what can happen when your offense is aggressive. If we had an aggressive offense with our D that we used to have at the begining of the year our record could be alot better...