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Re: Who has the better running duo in NFC east?
[quote=SFREDSKIN;517927]Carolina Panthers have the best duo.[/quote]
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Re: Who has the better running duo in NFC east?
[quote=Defensewins;517729]Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Portis cry foul in the press and the media slam Zorn when Zorn tried to play another back?[/quote]
Zorn took him out of the game and thats not splitting up running time at all. I also think that Portis wants to be in the game when we need a big play or the game is on the line but deos not mind splitting up the running time other than that. |
Re: Who has the better running duo in NFC east?
[quote=44Deezel;517930]That's why I qualified my comment with (at least during the first half of the season). Portis had gaping holes to run through early in the season and even with the Ravens stellar O line, McLain and McGahee (their 2 leading rushers) only averaged 3.9 yards a carry each. Portis averaged 4.3.
And how about passing the ball to the running backs once in a while? Did anyone see what Sproles, Westbrook and that dude named Cobbs in Miami were able to do in the passing game? I'd like to see Cartwright more on third down while Portis and Betts operate more like the backs in Carolina, Baltimore, New York, Miami, etc. I bet Cartwright would be good for 4-6 big plays each year (like Westbrook's 71 yard scamper yesterday off a screen pass). The Eagles O line didn't have anything to do with that play.[/quote] What are you talking about. The Eagles O line was down the field providing blocking while WB ran around them to break the play open. The O line made that play. |
Re: Who has the better running duo in NFC east?
Hey Hey Redskins fans don't be homer's makes you seem nuts, Cowboys, Giants, Philly, Skins, these other teams have great line play and runners who hit the hole running, even though I think we are last, we are just as close to 1st as any other team, put Clinton Portis behind any other line and see what he does.
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Re: Who has the better running duo in NFC east?
Portis and Betts would be tops before Betts caught a bad case of fumblitis, but I have to go with the Gmen duo. IF the Dallas duo was so great why didn't they make the playoffs? I mean they have a great O line and still those guys failed to impress me in December.
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Re: Who has the better running duo in NFC east?
Clearly the Giants have the best duo though 99% of the credit goes to their offensive line which is head and shoulders above 99% of offensive line in the league. Looking at their yards per carry tells you all you need to know. This is a team sports folks and the Skins can't bring it all together neither can the sore Cowboys.
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Re: Who has the better running duo in NFC east?
1. Giants
2. Cowboys 3. Eagles/Skins (toss up) Obviously O-line play is crucial and the Skins o-line is somewhat suspect in the run game. Actually saying the Skins have a "duo" is a stretch since Betts never gets carries. Portis is the 3rd or 4th best back in the East. I would take Jacobs or Westbrook anyday. |
Re: Who has the better running duo in NFC east?
We pretty much didnt run a "Duo"... So Disclude us.
this is a funny subject for Skins fans because... Up until this year we didnt need a "DUO". CP Was an ALL GAME/EVERY DOWN RB. Weve always had duo Capabilities with the very capable Betts luming on our Depth Chart. But i think next year well see what our "Duo" can do. |
Re: Who has the better running duo in NFC east?
Betts hasn't done anything for two years. Give me Westbrook/Buckhalter combo over the rest.
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Re: Who has the better running duo in NFC east?
[quote=firstdown;517976]Zorn took him out of the game and thats not splitting up running time at all. I also think that Portis wants to be in the game when we need a big play or the game is on the line but deos not mind splitting up the running time other than that.[/quote]
Prescise my friend, exactly. |
Re: Who has the better running duo in NFC east?
[quote=Mattyk72;517931]We're talking about the East[/quote]
Ooops! My bad. Based on the OL strength, I would say the Giants. Second place the Skins followed by the pokes and Eagles. |
Re: Who has the better running duo in NFC east?
[quote=firstdown;517977]What are you talking about. The Eagles O line was down the field providing blocking while WB ran around them to break the play open. The O line made that play.[/quote]
I hear you. The point I'm trying to make is that there are ways to make plays in the passing game without requiring our O line to give JC all day to pass and without needing all-world receivers. If we have weaknesses in O line, it's not because they're unable to block downfield. We have good backs. Get them all involved and get them the ball in the passing game. You can run those playe with any O line in the league. |
Re: Who has the better running duo in NFC east?
[quote=Skins4L;518031]We pretty much didnt run a "Duo"... So Disclude us.
this is a funny subject for Skins fans because... Up until this year we didnt need a "DUO". CP Was an ALL GAME/EVERY DOWN RB. Weve always had duo Capabilities with the very capable Betts luming on our Depth Chart. But i think next year well see what our "Duo" can do.[/quote] The all game/every down RB is pretty much a thing of the past... at least for the better running teams in the league. And especially when you're every down, highly paid back can't break a single run longer than 31 yards all year. The Ravens had 2 runs of over 75 yards, both for TDs, in the same game. We need to get with the program. |
Re: Who has the better running duo in NFC east?
[quote=DarkKnight;517981]Hey Hey Redskins fans don't be homer's makes you seem nuts, Cowboys, Giants, Philly, Skins, these other teams have great line play and runners who hit the hole running, even though I think we are last, we are just as close to 1st as any other team, put Clinton Portis behind any other line and see what he does.[/quote]
When he racked up close to 1000 yards in the first 8 games, there were a plethora of plays where Portis had huge holes to run through, and he couldn't take a single run to the house (from distance). He averaged more yards per carry than the top 2 ball carriers in Baltimore, but they had 3 guys that could score from anywhere on the field. Portis is good, and he's tough, but he's not extraordinary... definitely not worth the money in a league where RBs are a dime a dozen. The Giants had so many good backs 2 years ago that they were able to waive a guy named Ryan Grant. The Chargers let Turner go and Sproles stepped right in. Portis can't carry a team any more than any single Running Back can, including the likes of Tomlinson and Peterson. When was the last time the league's leading rusher won the Super Bowl? Was it the Broncos? |
Re: Who has the better running duo in NFC east?
new york run game is sick
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