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tryfuhl 04-27-2009 12:09 PM

Re: Undrafted Rookies Signed
 
[quote=BrunellMVP?;551931]Easy guys, edwin williams doesn't seem so sexy according to scouts inc

Overall Football Traits
Production 2 2004: Maryland red shirts Williams. 2005: Williams plays in the final 10 games of the season. 2006-2008: Williams starts 39 games at center.
Height-Weight-Speed 3 Adequate height and good bulk but marginal top-end speed.
Durability 2 Durability isn't a concern to our knowledge.
Character 2 2008: Member of the 2008 Terrapin Council, the team's leadership committee. 2004: Offensive scout team player of the year.
Offensive Center specific Traits
Strength/Toughness 4 Runs though downfield blocks and flashes the ability to put linebackers on their backs. (see 2008 Clemson game) Upper body strength is just adequate and doesn't jar defenders with a violent initial punch. Appears to gear down before the whistle too much.
Agility 4 Doesn't show great body control in space and loses balance at times. Moves well laterally but struggles to change directions quickly.
Awareness 3 Keeps head on a swivel and does a nice job of recognizing line stunts/blitzes. Vocal, appears to read defensive fronts well and makes sound line calls. Appears to look left when first step is to that side during 2008 Clemson game.
Pass Protection 3 Takes first step as snaps the ball and gets set quickly. Digs in and flashes the ability to hold ground working against bull rushers but doesn't sink hips well enough and it could be more of an issue at the NFL level.
Run Blocking 3 Quicker than fast and can beat defenders to the point of contact. Gets adequate hand placement and fights to stay in position once locked on but doesn't get great push, leans and slips off some blocks as a result. Shows far better range than timed speed suggests. Does a good job of opening hips when asked to pull or trap and efficient getting around the corner.[/quote]

that grades him right around average, many guys taken after the draft grade below that, I've never seen him play, but that report doesn't bother me too much

JoeRedskin 04-27-2009 12:26 PM

Re: Undrafted Rookies Signed
 
[quote=tryfuhl;551941]that grades him right around average, many guys taken after the draft grade below that, I've never seen him play, but that report doesn't bother me too much[/quote]

Yeah. I am sure that players like M.Colston or J. Peters also got "average" grades.

Being a Maryland grad, I would love to see the Terps' players do well in the pros. I would like it even more if they did well in the pros for the 'Skins!

jsarno 04-27-2009 12:26 PM

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[quote=hail_2_da_skins;551936]Signing Chase Daniels as an undrafted rookie is a good selection. First of all by signing an undrafted quarterback, it doesn't inflame the poor relationship between the Redskins and Jason Campbell. Secondly, Daniels was a standout at Mizzou. I live in Missouri and watch Mizzou every week, Daniels is one of the most accurate and smart quarterbacks to come along. What he lacks in size, he more than makes up with tuffness and execution. He is short, just like Jeff Garcia, but he is built sturdy like a running back and can run if necessary. I would like to see Colt Brennan win the backup quarterback job and allow Collins to be released.[/quote]

I certainly agree, but my one hesitation is that leaves us with NO verteran leadership in a position that requires it.

SBXVII 04-27-2009 12:27 PM

Re: Undrafted Rookies Signed
 
[quote=Darrell_Green_28;551774]So with that QB signing does that mean JC will be seeking a trade now? Any word on that?[/quote]


Rumor has it now that B-Bitch spoke with JC over the weekend. According to B-Bitch JC never said he wanted to be traded if we picked up Sanchez. According to B-Bitch JC is just as confused as to who or where that rumor started but supposedly he's claiming to never have demanded a trade.

Although I wonder how much of it is JC was pissed and spoke to people in confidence probubly pissed off at what the team was trying to do and it got leaked. Now he can say he never spoke to the media or said that statement.

I don't know. but as long as we are all a big happy family then I'm good. Over the weekend I had lost a lot of respect for JC thinking he could have taken the high road and looked like a saint. If he truly did not say that then he's back to being a saint and hope he does well.

tryfuhl 04-27-2009 12:45 PM

Re: Undrafted Rookies Signed
 
[quote=SBXVII;551953]Rumor has it now that B-Bitch spoke with JC over the weekend. According to B-Bitch JC never said he wanted to be traded if we picked up Sanchez. According to B-Bitch JC is just as confused as to who or where that rumor started but supposedly he's claiming to never have demanded a trade.

Although I wonder how much of it is JC was pissed and spoke to people in confidence probubly pissed off at what the team was trying to do and it got leaked. Now he can say he never spoke to the media or said that statement.

I don't know. but as long as we are all a big happy family then I'm good. Over the weekend I had lost a lot of respect for JC thinking he could have taken the high road and looked like a saint. If he truly did not say that then he's back to being a saint and hope he does well.[/quote]

Yeah, I just now caught the CSN interview with Zorn from draft weekend. Zorn said that Campbell has to understand the Cutler and Sanchez situations and that he believes that he does, that some of that is for Campbell and they're moving forward with him the starter. Said they don't know whether Campbell will be the franchise qb or not, but it's up to them to see and that's what they want and they know that it's what Campbell wants as well. Said he thought that the reason Campbell never freaked out or got pissed off was that Zorn was constantly communicating with him and that Campbell didn't necessarily think that we had given up on him.

JoeRedskin 04-27-2009 12:54 PM

Re: Undrafted Rookies Signed
 
Any updates on the UDFA's? Any of the OT's signed?

Yes, I know they would be developmental - so was Jason Peters. As with the draft, UDFA's are a crapshoot with longer odds. Since that is the case, I think we should fill every open roster space with OT's and see if maybe one can be keeper.

tryfuhl 04-27-2009 01:29 PM

Re: Undrafted Rookies Signed
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;551968]Any updates on the UDFA's? Any of the OT's signed?

Yes, I know they would be developmental - so was Jason Peters. As with the draft, UDFA's are a crapshoot with longer odds. Since that is the case, I think we should fill every open roster space with OT's and see if maybe one can be keeper.[/quote]

So far just Burley.

tryfuhl 04-27-2009 01:30 PM

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List so far:

Chase Daniel, QB, Missouri
Edwin Williams, C, Maryland
Scott Burley, OL, Maryland
Robert Agnone, TE, Delaware
Devin Frischknecht, TE, Washington State
John Halman, WR, Concordia
Jaison Williams, WR, Oregon
Derek Walker, DE, Illinois
Antonio Dixon, DT, Miami (FL)
Brigham Harwell, DT, UCLA
Ronnie Palmer, LB, Arizona
Lendy Holmes, S, Oklahoma
Doug Dutch, CB, Michigan

SmootSmack 04-27-2009 01:38 PM

Re: Undrafted Rookies Signed
 
I think Joe Ganz also

tryfuhl 04-27-2009 01:43 PM

Re: Undrafted Rookies Signed
 
[quote=SmootSmack;551995]I think Joe Ganz also[/quote]
Ahh, haven't seen that one yet, sorry for the edit heh

SmootSmack 04-27-2009 01:50 PM

Re: Undrafted Rookies Signed
 
[quote=tryfuhl;552001]Ahh, haven't seen that one yet, sorry for the edit heh[/quote]

I'm still not sure it's confirmed though

GMScud 04-27-2009 01:56 PM

Re: Undrafted Rookies Signed
 
[quote=tryfuhl;551941]that grades him right around average, many guys taken after the draft grade below that, I've never seen him play, but that report doesn't bother me too much[/quote]

I agree. He's durable, vocal, and unlike Rabach it sounds like he makes good reads and line calls. He's not a star player, but if this wasn't the deepest center class in years, he would have been drafted for sure. I agree with SmootSmack that he could be a nice steal.

tryfuhl 04-27-2009 01:58 PM

Re: Undrafted Rookies Signed
 
[quote=SmootSmack;552007]I'm still not sure it's confirmed though[/quote]
I've seen 2 reports that said us and 1 that said TB, though there's always some sort of report when an UDFA is talking to a team that it's a deal

In seeking clarification I just learned that Chase Daniel chose us over Dallas, his favorite team growing up. Seems like he felt he had a better chance here, I guess especially since Dallas drafted that guy in the 3rd, and he said him and Colt became good friends so he likes having a friend in town, and apparently Zorn kept contact with him throughout the draft, said the Skins would carry 3 (and maybe 4?) QBs... 4? are we planning a trade before the deadline or something?

SBXVII 04-27-2009 01:59 PM

Re: Undrafted Rookies Signed
 
From the Skins website:

[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Two_Maryland_O_Linemen_Among_12_Undrafted_Rookies_34519.jsp]Two Maryland O-Linemen Among 13 Undrafted Rookies[/url]

SmootSmack 04-27-2009 02:03 PM

Re: Undrafted Rookies Signed
 
[quote=tryfuhl;552013]I've seen 2 reports that said us and 1 that said TB, though there's always some sort of report when an UDFA is talking to a team that it's a deal

In seeking clarification I just learned that Chase Daniel chose us over Dallas, his favorite team growing up. Seems like he felt he had a better chance here, I guess especially since Dallas drafted that guy in the 3rd, and he said him and Colt became good friends so he likes having a friend in town, and apparently Zorn kept contact with him throughout the draft, said the Skins would carry 3 (and maybe 4?) QBs... 4? are we planning a trade before the deadline or something?[/quote]

I think he chose over us Tampa

I think Zorn had said 4 QBs for the summer, not necessarily the regular season


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