Re: Levi Jones released by the Bengals
 

I hate the fact we're even talking about Jansen as the starter. Seriously, our long-suffering, overly loyal coaching staff has said the guy isn't starting material anymore (right after the season ended if I remember correctly).

The lineup should be Samuels, Dock, Rabach, Thomas, Jones
w/ backups Heyer, Bridges, Jansen, Rinehart, Williams.

Re: Levi Jones released by the Bengals
 

[quote=The Goat;555718]I hate the fact we're even talking about Jansen as the starter. Seriously, our long-suffering, overly loyal coaching staff has said the guy isn't starting material anymore (right after the season ended if I remember correctly).

The lineup should be Samuels, Dock, Rabach, Thomas, Jones
w/ backups Heyer, Bridges, Jansen, Rinehart, Williams.[/quote]


If the coaches considered Jansen the starter they wouldn't be have Williams in camp and Jansen wouldn't be taking snaps at guard and center

Re: Levi Jones released by the Bengals
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;555723]If the coaches considered Jansen the starter they wouldn't be have Williams in camp and Jansen wouldn't be taking snaps at guard and center[/quote]

I hear you man, what I meant is folks around here talking about a Jansen comeback as starter...i guess it's cool to hope for the best but IMO there's a bigger picture.

Re: Levi Jones released by the Bengals
 

[quote=The Goat;555726]I hear you man, what I meant is folks around here talking about a Jansen comeback as starter...i guess it's cool to hope for the best but IMO there's a bigger picture.[/quote]

I gotcha. If he wins that job outright it would be a miracle.

Re: Levi Jones released by the Bengals
 

[quote=53Fan;555714]Jim Zorn on Jansen: "Well, Jon's been great, because Jon's worked at right tackle, he's worked at guard, and he's helping us at center. And to be honest with you, he's doing a great job at center, communicating with the guards and getting people in the right place. You know, center's a very communicative position, and he's doing a great job with that. The quarterbacks like him because his butt's so tall, they can just stand up and look at things. They don't have to squat down."[/quote]

I think Zorn saying this more likely solidifies Jansen NOT being our starting RT this year. Obviously they cant cut him for cap reasons so they are trying to find out if he can be useful in other positions. You don't see them trying Samuels or Dock or even Rabach at other positions. At best I think Jansen could end up being sixth man of the year (sorry, its NBA playoff time)

Re: Levi Jones released by the Bengals
 

According to the Washington Times there's no interest in Jones...

[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/redskins/2009/may/07/no-interest-in-jones/]No interest in Jones - Redskins 360 - Washington Times[/url]

Re: Levi Jones released by the Bengals
 

[quote=Redskins_P;555740]According to the Washington Times there's no interest in Jones...

[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/redskins/2009/may/07/no-interest-in-jones/]No interest in Jones - Redskins 360 - Washington Times[/url][/quote]
If this had been JLC, I would have been waiting for the press conference anouncing his arrival!!!

Re: Levi Jones released by the Bengals
 

[quote=cobracai1;555739]I think Zorn saying this more likely solidifies Jansen NOT being our starting RT this year. Obviously they cant cut him for cap reasons so they are trying to find out if he can be useful in other positions. You don't see them trying Samuels or Dock or even Rabach at other positions. At best I think Jansen could end up being sixth man of the year (sorry, its NBA playoff time)[/quote]

I agree. I think Jansen is a backup this year but could possibly push Rabach. At least that's the way I read it.

Re: Levi Jones released by the Bengals
 

[quote=sportscurmudgeon;555344]Jones was due to make $3M this year in Cincy. He will not be signing for chump change wherever he goes.


There is something strange going on here. Levi Jones can still play; he is not old and he's not wracked with injuries. He does not have the reputation for being "felonious". So, why are the Bengals - - not a team with a real deep roster - - so anxious to draft his replacement and move him out?


Is there something dark here? Or is this just an example of why the Bengals are the Bengals?[/quote]Money. In the NFL, the fact that contracts are not guaranteed is secondary to the fact that if you have talent you keep it, usually. The Bengals however, feel that their 3 million could be better spent elsewhere or pocketed. So though Levi Jones has value to his team, the team feels like they can spend .8 million and get the same effect. So he's out.

I think of Levi Jones as the perfect backup LT. Injury prone, but he can come off the bench if Samuels gets hurt, so the fact that he's injury prone doesn't matter. Then, we can go with anyone at RT.

Re: Levi Jones released by the Bengals
 

[quote=GTripp0012;555779]Money. In the NFL, the fact that contracts are not guaranteed is secondary to the fact that if you have talent you keep it, usually. The Bengals however, feel that their 3 million could be better spent elsewhere or pocketed. [B]So though Levi Jones has value to his team, the team feels like they can spend .8 million and get the same effect. [/B] So he's out.

I think of Levi Jones as the perfect backup LT. Injury prone, but he can come off the bench if Samuels gets hurt, so the fact that he's injury prone doesn't matter. Then, we can go with anyone at RT.[/quote]

What? The Bengals being cheap? Again?

Re: Levi Jones released by the Bengals
 

[quote=GTripp0012;555779]Money. In the NFL, the fact that contracts are not guaranteed is secondary to the fact that if you have talent you keep it, usually. The Bengals however, feel that their 3 million could be better spent elsewhere or pocketed. So though Levi Jones has value to his team, the team feels like they can spend .8 million and get the same effect. So he's out.

[B]I think of Levi Jones as the perfect backup LT. Injury prone, but he can come off the bench if Samuels gets hurt, so the fact that he's injury prone doesn't matter.[/B] Then, we can go with anyone at RT.[/quote]

Me too...but would you play him at RT while Samuels was healthy or just let him ride the bench?

...btw what is the extent of Jones' injury history? Is he on the downward slide or did he just hit a rough patch.

Re: Levi Jones released by the Bengals
 

[quote=Redskins_P;555740]According to the Washington Times there's no interest in Jones...

[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/redskins/2009/may/07/no-interest-in-jones/]No interest in Jones - Redskins 360 - Washington Times[/url][/quote]

As I said, I don't think there's much interest from him as well. He will end up some team where he can start right away (i.e. Buffalo).

And it seems that he's not interested in Seattle.

[url=http://nmsn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9545680/Ex-Bengals-OT-calls-off-visit-to-Seattle]FOX Sports on MSN - NFL - Ex-Bengals OT calls off visit to Seattle[/url]

Re: Levi Jones released by the Bengals
 

[quote=The Goat;555783]Me too...but would you play him at RT while Samuels was healthy or just let him ride the bench?

...btw what is the extent of Jones' injury history? Is he on the downward slide or did he just hit a rough patch.[/quote]There's not enough information really to say whether he's going to be injury prone until he retires or if he's just been down for the last three seasons, but that's a rough trend.

Thusly, I wouldn't even play him at RT if we got him. I would put him right behind Samuels on the depth chart, and hope he never, ever has to see the field. If he does, then you have a guy in there who doesn't at all need a reduced playbook. Unlike someone else I can think of.

I think we're better off at RT now than we were last year easily, but OT remains a need if only because you can't assume any player is injury proof...especially a guy coming off of injury.

Re: Levi Jones released by the Bengals
 

[quote=Ruhskins;555843]As I said, I don't think there's much interest from him as well. He will end up some team where he can start right away (i.e. Buffalo).

And it seems that he's not interested in Seattle.

[url=http://nmsn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9545680/Ex-Bengals-OT-calls-off-visit-to-Seattle]FOX Sports on MSN - NFL - Ex-Bengals OT calls off visit to Seattle[/url][/quote]

That's because he wants to come to DC...he told me he can help this offense be great and he really, really hates seeing Jason on the turf half the season.