Re: Defensive Coordinator for 2010
 

We need new coaches who don't have (misplaced) loyalties to any of the players. its the only way to ensure the best players start.

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;652003]GRAY as Defensive Cordinator!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I totaly disagree with that one!!!! Unloyal POS is what he is. Just in MHO. Keep the Rats off the New SHip!!![/quote]
question, where should any coach's loyalty lay? to the head coach or to the team. If a HC told a position coach to do something particularly bad for the team, should that position coach do it to stay loyal to the HC, or look at the team's best interest. I don't know Jerry Grays motivations, but by the time he was interviewed it was pretty clear that JZ was not staying around, also clear that the best thing for the team was to be prepared to name the next coach asap. I don't get the unloyal pos talk, and I think it's sad that people are labeling him anything other than a team guy.

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^ I agree, why would be loyal to a guy you only met 2 years ago.

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I just get a bad vibe from him (interviews, news clips tec.). Its just my opinion. I've been in the coaching buisness for 20 years and he reminds me of some bad run-ins I had with poor coaches. And I have a hard time seeing where Jim Zorn told him to do something that wasnt in the teams interest.

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I don't care if Gray is loyal or not. Our Secondary can't tackle, cover, or catch. Cover may be a scheme issue but tackling and holding onto the ball when it hits your hands is a coaching issue when it has gone on as long as it has.

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[quote=Player_HTTR;652033]I don't care if Gray is loyal or not. Our Secondary can't tackle, cover, or catch. Cover may be a scheme issue but tackling and holding onto the ball when it hits your hands is a coaching issue when it has gone on as long as it has.[/quote]

Maybe he's following orders from Blache as to what scheme to run or player position?

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[quote=GMScud;650874]I think Mike Zimmer will happen (the Bengals won't pay him what Danny will), and I wouldn't mind him bringing in his son Adam from the Saints to coach LBs work as maybe asst DC.[/quote]

I'm also good with Zimmer but I don't want any more sons of coaches on our sidelines. I'm not thrilled with MS having his son as a coach because what happens if he is a problem what does Mike do then? Its just a tough situation if the son falls down on the job.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;652035]Maybe he's following orders from Blache as to what scheme to run or player position?[/quote]

I really think part of it was scheme, our Zones had more holes than Spongebob, but the other two are inexcusable.

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[quote=Player_HTTR;652039]I really think part of it was scheme, our Zones had more holes than Spongebob, but the other two are inexcusable.[/quote]

We know Smoot, Landry and Hall are not exactly the worlds best tacklers and should work on it.

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;652029]I just get a bad vibe from him (interviews, news clips tec.). Its just my opinion. I've been in the coaching buisness for 20 years and he reminds me of some bad run-ins I had with poor coaches. And I have a hard time seeing where Jim Zorn told him to do something that wasnt in the teams interest.[/quote]

I was not saying that Zorn had. Just trying to make the point that the loyalty lies to the team, not to the head coach.

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[quote=Mattyk;650968]Zimmer seems to be the favorite with Gray as a possible fall back.

JLC is reporting Jim Haslet as a possibility too...

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/06/shanahans-defense-could-be-run-by-zimmer-or-haslett/"]Shanahan's defense could be run by Zimmer or Haslett | ProFootballTalk.com[/URL][/quote]
i would really like this. his defenses were always very aggressive. im not to high on Zimmer

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on news 4 they just said a few coaches might stay around and they mentioned gray as d cordinator. it made me cry on the inside a little, i really hope we get zimmer

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[quote=mlmdub130;652061]on news 4 they just said a few coaches might stay around and they mentioned gray as d cordinator. it made me cry on the inside a little, i really hope we get zimmer[/quote]

How does a Gray defense play?

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Doc Walker was on WPL today and endorsed Gray. He liked the idea of there being less of a transition to a different defense with Gray in charge. Gray or Zimmer would be an improvement IMO.

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#1. I must have missed some recent news that has eluded to the fact that Gray is unloyal. Are you guys refering to his interview and Zorn? I'll ask this..... if it is...... how do you guys know positively for sure that Gray didn't go to Zorn to run it by him and with Zorn knowing he was out the door, didn't give his approval to go to the interview?

Just because the media didn't talk about it, or it has never been mentioned does not mean it didn't happen.

#2. Why do people think he's a great candidate? I mean he has been on this team for 6yrs and has not made our CB position any better. The excuses keep piling up for him.... "Oh it was the scheme he had to work with" - If it was the Scheme why then do we want to keep him cause he's going to run the same crappy scheme. Why not change to a whole new phylosophy in regards to the 4-3 if thats what they want to stay with or change to another scheme.

#3. He does crappy interviews, sometimes rude when questions were asked.

Lets move on. Lets get a fresh start. Bring someone in that will not pick favorites or take sides. When you have cancer you have to cut it all out. Not leave a little in hopes it will work out. It won't.