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SmootSmack 02-17-2010 12:31 PM

Re: 93 MEGA Mock Munch: Suh Consensus choice, Bradford leads to Redskins
 
I've never seen Clausen in person, but people who have seen him have told me there's no way he's over 6' feet tall (others who have seen him say he's 6'1-6'2") so if he measures at that, that may [i]may[/i] hurt him.

Personally, I can't see him falling out of the top 10

Slingin Sammy 33 02-17-2010 12:56 PM

Re: 93 MEGA Mock Munch: Suh Consensus choice, Bradford leads to Redskins
 
[quote=SmootSmack;663980]I've never seen Clausen in person, but people who have seen him have told me there's no way he's over 6' feet tall (others who have seen him say he's 6'1-6'2") so if he measures at that, that may [I]may[/I] hurt him.

Personally, I can't see him falling out of the top 10[/quote]Everything I've seen has him "listed" at 6'3" or 6'2". You're right though, if he measures at 6' or even 6'1" that could hurt him.

Kalisto2010 02-17-2010 02:20 PM

Re: 93 MEGA Mock Munch: Suh Consensus choice, Bradford leads to Redskins
 
According to Mel Kiper Clausen is now rated above Sam Bradford. In his latest mock draft he has Clausen going to the Skins.

[url=http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/insider/news/story?id=4918277&action=login&appRedirect=http%3A%2F%2Finsider.espn.go.com%2Fnfl%2Fdraft10%2Finsider%2Fnews%2Fstory%3Fid%3D4918277]Mel Kiper: Jimmy Clausen jumps inside the top 5 in the pre-combine mock - ESPN[/url]

SmootSmack 02-17-2010 03:05 PM

Re: 93 MEGA Mock Munch: Suh Consensus choice, Bradford leads to Redskins
 
Any Terps fans here have thoughts on Bruce Campbell?

WaldSkins 02-17-2010 03:13 PM

Re: 93 MEGA Mock Munch: Suh Consensus choice, Bradford leads to Redskins
 
[quote=Kalisto2010;664067]According to Mel Kiper Clausen is now rated above Sam Bradford. In his latest mock draft he has Clausen going to the Skins.

[url=http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/insider/news/story?id=4918277&action=login&appRedirect=http%3A%2F%2Finsider.espn.go.com%2Fnfl%2Fdraft10%2Finsider%2Fnews%2Fstory%3Fid%3D4918277]Mel Kiper: Jimmy Clausen jumps inside the top 5 in the pre-combine mock - ESPN[/url][/quote]

How can a player jump when there's nothing going on right now.

PHazard 02-17-2010 03:23 PM

Re: 93 MEGA Mock Munch: Suh Consensus choice, Bradford leads to Redskins
 
[quote=WaldSkins;664112]How can a player jump when there's nothing going on right now.[/quote]

Thats what im saying. How can you make a jump like that. And somehow Anthony Davis has passes Russell Okung as the best OT. What the hell?

CultBrennan59 02-17-2010 03:51 PM

Re: 93 MEGA Mock Munch: Suh Consensus choice, Bradford leads to Redskins
 
[quote=PHazard;664125]Thats what im saying. How can you make a jump like that. And somehow Anthony Davis has passes Russell Okung as the best OT. What the hell?[/quote]

I know exactly what you mean, the only thing I can think of is when draft analysts start listening to other draft analysts, and think "Oh yeah thats a good point about (Whoever)." They also have nothing else to do but review tape after tape, so they're probably re-watching Sam Bradford's game against whomever for the 10th time going you know, he looks better than (so and so). Also when ever these draft analysts allow people to send them questions on the internet and they say a certain name a lot of times, the analysts go back and say "hey maybe he is a little better than I thought he was." They also look at prospects and say "well I see this guy as a decent guy with potential, but I could also see an owner like Al Davis or Jerry Jones jumping up to get this guy."

PennSkinsFan 02-24-2010 10:58 AM

Re: 93 MEGA Mock Munch: Suh Consensus choice, Bradford leads to Redskins
 
[URL="http://dcprosportsreport.com/articles/washington-redskins/98-mega-mock-munch-suh-solid-at-no-1-mccoy-at-no-2.html"][B]http://dcprosportsreport.com/articles/washington-redskins[/B][/URL][URL="http://dcprosportsreport.com/articles/washington-redskins/98-mega-mock-munch-suh-solid-at-no-1-mccoy-at-no-2.html"][B]/98-mega-mock-munch-suh-solid-at-no-1-mccoy-at-no-2.html[/B][/URL]

Newest much released today. Bradford is the biggest gainer of the week in the Top 9, jumping 12% to 49% of mocks projecting him to the Redskins.

Lotus 02-24-2010 11:19 AM

Re: 93 MEGA Mock Munch: Suh Consensus choice, Bradford leads to Redskins
 
Mock drafts still won't be very meaningful for several weeks, if then.

MTK 02-24-2010 11:48 AM

Re: 93 MEGA Mock Munch: Suh Consensus choice, Bradford leads to Redskins
 
I heard an interview with Bradford on NFL radio yesterday and he sounds like a good kid. Smart, good work ethic, sounds like he knows what it's going to take to make it at the next level.

Question for the college gurus, if his shoulder wasn't a concern, how would that change your opinion of him?

Slingin Sammy 33 02-24-2010 01:45 PM

Re: 93 MEGA Mock Munch: Suh Consensus choice, Bradford leads to Redskins
 
[quote=Mattyk;665700]I heard an interview with Bradford on NFL radio yesterday and he sounds like a good kid. Smart, good work ethic, sounds like he knows what it's going to take to make it at the next level.

Question for the college gurus, if his shoulder wasn't a concern, how would that change your opinion of him?[/quote]I don't know if I've leveled-up to guru status :), but for me his shoulder isn't a major concern in my eval of him. I'm more concerned that he was in the spread, making a high percentage of under 10yd throws, playing for a team that talent wise was pretty much head and shoulders above its competition, and throwing to wide open WRs with 7-8 seconds to throw.....plus QBs from Bob Stoops system have not fared well in the NFL.

None of those issues are a knock on him, just a product of the team/offensive system. I think to get a more accurate eval of him you need to look at the championship with UF and you see some good/some bad. I don't think he's going to be a bust, but I don't think he projects to an elite QB in the NFL. His transition will likely take a bit longer than Clausen. I wouldn't spend the #4 overall pick on him. If Clausen's gone, then I go LT.

GusFrerotte 02-25-2010 06:05 PM

Re: 93 MEGA Mock Munch: Suh Consensus choice, Bradford leads to Redskins
 
We need some new faces on the line period. This Clausen/Bradford debate is sort of moot in my mind. Both are great QBs, but Clausen didn't make a bowl, and Bradford didn't either(Jones played). Bradford if healthy, would be the choice for me if forced to choose between the two, but I don't want either to be honest. Bradford is hot, but he played on a hot team against inferior competition most Saturdays. That in itself means squat, but in the NFL, with the exception of half a dozen teams, mediocrity rules the day. Will Bradford still excel when the "odds are even"? Face it, we are the basement of our division. Can Sam still excel when the odds are even or against him? Most of all though, we need at least our first two picks to be linemen if our future QB is even going to have half a chance of making it in the NFL.

GusFrerotte 02-25-2010 06:09 PM

Re: 93 MEGA Mock Munch: Suh Consensus choice, Bradford leads to Redskins
 
[quote=Mattyk;665700]I heard an interview with Bradford on NFL radio yesterday and he sounds like a good kid. Smart, good work ethic, sounds like he knows what it's going to take to make it at the next level.

Question for the college gurus, if his shoulder wasn't a concern, how would that change your opinion of him?[/quote]


My big thing is could he still excel when he will no longer have th e advantage of having a stacked team playing opponents of markedly inferior quality for a 16 game schedule? The shoulder thing concerns me of course, but my biggest concern is can the kid handle it when the odds are even most Sundays?

Longtimefan 02-25-2010 06:12 PM

Re: 93 MEGA Mock Munch: Suh Consensus choice, Bradford leads to Redskins
 
[quote=Kalisto2010;664067]According to Mel Kiper Clausen is now rated above Sam Bradford. In his latest mock draft he has Clausen going to the Skins.

[url=http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/insider/news/story?id=4918277&action=login&appRedirect=http%3A%2F%2Finsider.espn.go.com%2Fnfl%2Fdraft10%2Finsider%2Fnews%2Fstory%3Fid%3D4918277]Mel Kiper: Jimmy Clausen jumps inside the top 5 in the pre-combine mock - ESPN[/url][/quote]

Mel Kiper shifted gears on Bradford and now has the Redskins taking Clausen. Could it be he's listening to the whispers of some that Bradford is damaged goods?

GusFrerotte 02-25-2010 06:15 PM

Re: 93 MEGA Mock Munch: Suh Consensus choice, Bradford leads to Redskins
 
Both my and Slingin Sammies question is why I say go for Dan Levefour, Stull, Pike, Kafka, Canfield, Elliot, Sheehan, or even Elliot from Purdue. The guys you really should look for are the guys that were in a system most like Shanny's and always played competition that was about the same or even better than the QB's team. I really hope we get one of the above mentioned guys. They had good stats and didn't come from any big powerhouse teams, so they could better handle getting "roughed up".


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