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firstdown 09-23-2010 02:47 PM

Re: Contract From America
 
[quote=saden1;737941]Here's an image from the contract, can you guess what's [URL="http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-cohn/77893/lying-graphs-republican-style"]wrong with it[/URL]?

[IMG]http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/gopspendingasshareconomy.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

The graph does not lie its how you want to design the graph which changes how it looks. Stop looking at the pictures and actually read the graph and you will see its correct.

saden1 09-23-2010 03:01 PM

Re: Contract From America
 
[quote=firstdown;737949]The graph does not lie its how you want to design the graph which changes how it looks. Stop looking at the pictures and actually read the graph and you will see its correct.[/quote]

No one f'cking scales a graph from 17-24. It is deceptive and you know it. To the untrained eye (i.e. the general public) it looks like twice as much. Republicans selling FUD, nothing has changed.

MTK 09-23-2010 03:04 PM

Re: Contract From America
 
lol it's totally deceptive

c'mon

firstdown 09-23-2010 03:10 PM

Re: Contract From America
 
[quote=Mattyk;737961]lol it's totally deceptive

c'mon[/quote]
I agree its deceptive but the article said it lied which is a lie itself. So the person writes an article calling someting a lie which tech. is not a lie and lies themself. OK. but you guys don't see anything wrong with that?

Chico23231 09-23-2010 03:12 PM

Re: Contract From America
 
[quote=saden1;737958]No one f'cking sakes a graph from 17-24. It is deceptive and you know it. To the untrained eye (i.e. the general public) it looks like twice as much. Republicans selling FUD, nothing has changed.[/quote]

Wow now that is absolutely hilarious, but just down right ignorant from the right. I like how the utmost extreme measures are taken in attempt to legitimize their arguements. They play to the "thats what we want to believe" in their cause, but show just how desperate they are. Im sure the weak minded look at it and just shake their heads up and down in belief

saden1 09-23-2010 03:16 PM

Re: Contract From America
 
[quote=Mattyk;737961]lol it's totally deceptive

c'mon[/quote]

The bad news is they had the graph in the draft version, the good news is it has been removed from the officially released pledge document.

saden1 09-23-2010 03:17 PM

Re: Contract From America
 
My co worker and I are playing spot the minorities in the pictures they have on there....so far we have one Asian lady, one Hispanic military guy, and one black lady. Co-worker is winning 2-1.

firstdown 09-23-2010 03:50 PM

Re: Contract From America
 
[quote=Chico23231;737964]Wow now that is absolutely hilarious, but just down right ignorant from the right. I like how the utmost extreme measures are taken in attempt to legitimize their arguements. They play to the "thats what we want to believe" in their cause, but show just how desperate they are. Im sure the weak minded look at it and just shake their heads up and down in belief[/quote]

Kind of how Obama said his health care bill would save us money but now is saying that it going to raise rates and he knew that all along. I guess he just forgot to mention it would actually increase cost but simple minded people believed him.

Chico23231 09-23-2010 04:09 PM

Re: Contract From America
 
[quote=firstdown;737977]Kind of how Obama said his health care bill would save us money but now is saying that it going to raise rates and he knew that all along. I guess he just forgot to mention it would actually increase cost but simple minded people believed him.[/quote]

Well he should have graphed it

wilsowilso 09-23-2010 04:14 PM

Re: Contract From America
 
[quote=firstdown;737977]Kind of how Obama said his health care bill would save us money but now is saying that it going to raise rates and he knew that all along. I guess he just forgot to mention it would actually increase cost but simple minded people believed him.[/quote]


The Republican Party is not looking out for you in any way.

Unless you work for Big Oil or maybe Big Insurance. Or maybe you are a major shareholder in a Chemical Conglomerate?

If you are just an average citizen you are beyond simple minded if you think otherwise.

Wake up.

saden1 09-23-2010 04:42 PM

Re: Contract From America
 
[quote=firstdown;737977]Kind of how Obama said his health care bill would save us money but now is saying that it going to raise rates and he knew that all along. I guess he just forgot to mention it would actually increase cost but simple minded people believed him.[/quote]

My rate has gone down.. Yours hasn't? Awww, that sucks...you should get a new insurance company or a new job. I guess health care has failed in reducing the cost curve. Repeal and Replace!

saden1 09-23-2010 04:46 PM

Re: Contract From America
 
For the [URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/09/does_health-care_reform_bend_t.html"]more refined and sophisticated folks[/URL].

firstdown 09-24-2010 11:08 AM

Re: Contract From America
 
[quote=saden1;737988]For the [URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/09/does_health-care_reform_bend_t.html"]more refined and sophisticated folks[/URL].[/quote]

Lets just look at that chart a few years from now and I'll bet its off by double. I'm guessing after 2014 the cost of health ins. will increase around 12% way into 2019. Just look at Mass. they said the same thing and their coverage is out of control. Obama and Co. want the cost to go way up so the Dems. can push for universal coverage. I'm not that sophisticated and can figure that out.

saden1 09-24-2010 11:20 AM

Re: Contract From America
 
[quote=firstdown;738171]Lets just look at that chart a few years from now and I'll bet its off by double. I'm guessing after 2014 the cost of health ins. will increase around 12% way into 2019. Just look at Mass. they said the same thing and their coverage is out of control. Obama and Co. want the cost to go way up so the Dems. can push for universal coverage. I'm not that sophisticated and can figure that out.[/quote]


America will get single payer universal healthcare at some point and it won't be because of the existence of Obama or any other politician...it's a matter of economics and what people think will reduce their cost. With or without ObamaCare the cost of care is going up, even you are sophisticated enough to figure that out but choose to ignore that fact.

You are going to become like the rest of the world, buckle-up.

saden1 09-24-2010 11:52 AM

Re: Contract From America
 
Anyone else catch The Daily Show last night? I was dying from laughter:

[url=http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-september-23-2010/postcards-from-the-pledge]Postcards From the Pledge - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 9/23/2010 - Video Clip | Comedy Central[/url]


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