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Trample the Elderly 03-17-2010 01:54 PM

Re: Texas wants to rewrite the US History books
 
You don't have to speak English if you don't want to. The Laws are in English. The Civil Codes are as well. Almost all financial transactions are in English. You don't have to learn English, but you will be a second class citizen, if that.

joethiesmanfan 03-17-2010 01:55 PM

Re: Texas wants to rewrite the US History books
 
[quote=Trample the Elderly;675456]You don't have to speak English if you don't want to. The Laws are in English. The Civil Codes are as well. Almost all financial transactions are in English. You don't have to learn English, but you will be a second class citizen, if that.[/quote]

That my friend is wishful thinking.

joethiesmanfan 03-17-2010 01:57 PM

Re: Texas wants to rewrite the US History books
 
[quote=firstdown;675449]No its Jack Asses that think we should change for every Tom dick and harry that comes here.Hell while we are at it why don't we start driving on the left side of the road and put stearing wheels on the left side of the cars because go forbid if we ask them to learn how to drive our way. I should leave its the fing liberal thinking and liberals that we need to get the F out of this counrty. You guys can start your own little world where no one works and everyone speaks a different language.[/quote]

That my friend is called paranoia.

tryfuhl 03-17-2010 01:59 PM

Re: Texas wants to rewrite the US History books
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;675436]
As an aside, at the fall of the western Roman Empire, it it was Christianity that preserved much of the ancient knowledge that otherwise would have been lost with the Fall of Rome. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_the_Irish_Saved_Civilization]How the Irish Saved Civilization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url].
[/quote]

I'd probably say not to champion Christians and Catholics of those who saved knowledge as they did their fair share of destroying it as well.

MTK 03-17-2010 02:00 PM

Re: Texas wants to rewrite the US History books
 
[quote=firstdown;675315]Thats just an excuse. [B]I'm not saying become an english master just learn the language so you can communicate.[/B] I had a secretary from Italy working at my office and I would always find files out of place. One day a dawned on me that she did not know the alphabet. She knew all the letters but never learned them like us and that little ABC song.[/quote]

I deal with people all the time that only speak broken English. That's not enough for some of my pinhead co-workers though.

MTK 03-17-2010 02:01 PM

Re: Texas wants to rewrite the US History books
 
[quote=joethiesmanfan;675462]That my friend is called paranoia.[/quote]

Seriously.

Fox News really works I guess.

tryfuhl 03-17-2010 02:01 PM

Re: Texas wants to rewrite the US History books
 
[quote=firstdown;675449]No its Jack Asses that think we should change for every Tom dick and harry that comes here.Hell while we are at it why don't we start driving on the left side of the road and put stearing wheels on the left side of the cars because go forbid if we ask them to learn how to drive our way. I should leave its the fing liberal thinking and liberals that we need to get the F out of this counrty. You guys can start your own little world where no one works and everyone speaks a different language.[/quote]

How simple minded can you be man?

What do you do for business I must ask?

tryfuhl 03-17-2010 02:02 PM

Re: Texas wants to rewrite the US History books
 
[quote=Mattyk;675469]Seriously.

Fox News really works I guess.[/quote]

liberals need to leave because free thinking has no fucking place in America

ALL HAIL THE QUEEN

JoeRedskin 03-17-2010 02:02 PM

Re: Texas wants to rewrite the US History books
 
[quote=joethiesmanfan;675447]As an aside, at the fall of the western Roman Empire, it it was Christianity that preserved much of the ancient knowledge that otherwise would have been lost with the Fall of Rome. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_the_Irish_Saved_Civilization]How the Irish Saved Civilization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url].

That my friend is a fabrication.[/quote]

What, specifically, are you asserting is a fabrication?

Schneed10 03-17-2010 02:04 PM

Re: Texas wants to rewrite the US History books
 
[quote=firstdown;675449]No its Jack Asses that think we should change for every Tom dick and harry that comes here.Hell while we are at it why don't we start driving on the left side of the road and put stearing wheels on the left side of the cars because go forbid if we ask them to learn how to drive our way. I should leave its the fing liberal thinking and liberals that we need to get the F out of this counrty. You guys can start your own little world where no one works and everyone speaks a different language.[/quote]

I could hardly be considered liberal.

I'm just stating facts. There's no law saying anyone has to speak anything. There's also no law that you have to listen to another language. For example, if you own a business and someone comes in asking for something in Spanish, you're well within your rights to kick their ass out.

They don't have to speak English, and you don't have to listen to other languages if you don't want.

Trample the Elderly 03-17-2010 02:04 PM

Re: Texas wants to rewrite the US History books
 
[quote=joethiesmanfan;675459]That my friend is wishful thinking.[/quote]

If you need a translator in court the cards are already stacked against you. It's like going in without a lawyer. I can't speak legalise but I do understand a little Latin, Common-law, and I know a little code. Someone who doesn't speak English will not be able to tell if his lawyer or translator is full of it. He has to go on faith. If that isn't a second class citizen, I don't know what is.

joethiesmanfan 03-17-2010 02:10 PM

Re: Texas wants to rewrite the US History books
 
[quote=tryfuhl;675472]liberals need to leave because free thinking has no fucking place in America

ALL HAIL THE QUEEN[/quote]

That my friend is called funny as a MOFO!

JoeRedskin 03-17-2010 02:11 PM

Re: Texas wants to rewrite the US History books
 
[quote=tryfuhl;675465]I'd probably say not to champion Christians and Catholics of those who saved knowledge as they did their fair share of destroying it as well.[/quote]

You sit judging and accusing that the fundamentalist religious right as ignoring history - yet then commit the same exact act.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boethius]Boethius - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

Also:
"One of the great contributions of the monasteries was the preservation of
the learning of the classical world and that of the church. Learning did not
entirely die out in western Europe, of course. Seeing that the ability to read
Greek was quickly disappearing, the sixth-century Roman scholar Boethius, an administrator under the Ostrogothic king Theodoric, determined to preserve Greek learning by translating all of Plato and Aristotle into Latin. Only Aristotle's treatises on logic were translated, and these remained the sole works of that philosopher available in the West until the twelfth century.

Unjustly accused of treachery by Theodoric, Boethius was thrown into prison, where he wrote The Consolation of Philosophy while awaiting execution. This little work later became a medieval textbook on philosophy.

Cassiodorus, a contemporary of Boethius who had also served Theodoric,
devoted most of his life to the collection and preservation of classical
knowledge. By encouraging the monks to copy valuable manuscripts, he was instrumental in making the monasteries centers of learning. Following his example, many monasteries established scriptoria, departments concerned exclusively with copying manuscripts"
[url=http://history-world.org/churchmiddleages.htm]Christianity, The Church In The Early Middle Ages[/url]

Yes. organized religion in general has its flaws, some eggregious, as it is a human creation, but to ignore the benefits it has passed on to us through our history because of these flaws is just mind boggling .

tryfuhl 03-17-2010 02:13 PM

Re: Texas wants to rewrite the US History books
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;675494]You sit judging and accusing that the fundamentalist religious right as ignoring history - yet then commit the same exact act.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boethius]Boethius - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

Yes. organized religion in general has its flaws, some eggregious, as it is a human creation, but to ignore the benefits it has passed on to us through our history because of these flaws is just mind boggling .[/quote]

No sir, I did not commit the same act at all. I'm not sure why you would accuse me of that.

joethiesmanfan 03-17-2010 02:13 PM

Re: Texas wants to rewrite the US History books
 
[quote=Trample the Elderly;675483]If you need a translator in court the cards are already stacked against you. It's like going in without a lawyer. I can't speak legalise but I do understand a little Latin, Common-law, and I know a little code. Someone who doesn't speak English will not be able to tell if his lawyer or translator is full of it. He has to go on faith. If that isn't a second class citizen, I don't know what is.[/quote]

Money talks point blank. Going to courst and not understanding fullty what's going on? That my friend is called the US justice system.


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