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BuckSkin 01-26-2011 09:20 PM

Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft
 
Newton may be an extremely gifted athlete, but I think it's a simple decision. Reach for Cam Newton at #10 or wait until next year and draft T Pryor of Ohio State in the 4th round. They are almost indentical in size -both gifted runners that can escape defenders and torch you for big gains. Pryor is a more polished passer and has started 3 bowl games with his Sr. Season only to get better. Pryor faces a 5 game suspension for selling memorabilia so his draft stock may be on the low end.

SkinzWin 01-26-2011 10:11 PM

Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft
 
[quote=BuckSkin;780637]Newton may be an extremely gifted athlete, but I think it's a simple decision. Reach for Cam Newton at #10 or wait until next year and draft T Pryor of Ohio State in the 4th round. They are almost indentical in size -both gifted runners that can escape defenders and torch you for big gains. Pryor is a more polished passer and has started 3 bowl games with his Sr. Season only to get better. Pryor faces a 5 game suspension for selling memorabilia so his draft stock may be on the low end.[/quote]

I think him getting suspended was stupid. It was given to him. I would think it was mine and do what I wanted with it too. Who the hell gives someone something and then punishes them for selling it?!

SBXVII 01-27-2011 02:48 AM

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[quote=SkinzWin;780639]I think him getting suspended was stupid. It was given to him. I would think it was mine and do what I wanted with it too. Who the hell gives someone something and then punishes them for selling it?![/quote]

Someone wo wants to punish him for something, but can't find anything better then what they found. He must have been pulling a "Will Hill" and the school doesn't want either they or him to be embarrassed so they cooked up some other lame excuse.

Edit: Sour.

SkinzWin 01-27-2011 10:44 AM

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[quote=SBXVII;780652]Someone wo wants to punish him for something, but can't find anything better then what they found. He must have been pulling a "Will Hill" and the school doesn't want either they or him to be embarrassed so they cooked up some other lame excuse.

Edit: Sour.[/quote]

I haven't heard about the who will hill story but saw the thread. Haven't had a chance to sit and read through the who thing, what is the story on him? He do something stupid I suspect?

sandtrapjack 01-27-2011 11:12 AM

Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft
 
I am a firm believer that Newton will drop considerably farther than most think. I have read a lot of posts regarding the spread offense, his arm strength, mobility yada yada yada.

But his character is still a big question mark. the most recent focus was on the money that allegedly changed hands for him to attend Auburn. NCAA investigated and declared him eligible based on what they found stating that the wrong doing was isolated to his father and Newton had "plausible deny-ability".

But this is also the same NCAA that investigated Reggie Bush when he was at USC and declared him eligible. Only to see him surrender his Heisman later on for the same infractions.

Lets not forget that Newton left Florida in a cloud of shame, when he was found to be in possession of stolen property, specifically a laptop.

Then he spent a year at a small school in Texas and really did not get any real Div 1 experience until he got to Auburn.

So I don't think Newton will go in the top ten. I think he will be lucky to go in the top 20. He will be there at 10 when Washington picks.

Be interesting to see what happens there.

freddyg12 01-27-2011 11:23 AM

Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft
 
[quote=sandtrapjack;780701]I am a firm believer that Newton will drop considerably farther than most think. I have read a lot of posts regarding the spread offense, his arm strength, mobility yada yada yada.

But his character is still a big question mark. the most recent focus was on the money that allegedly changed hands for him to attend Auburn. NCAA investigated and declared him eligible based on what they found stating that the wrong doing was isolated to his father and Newton had "plausible deny-ability".

But this is also the same NCAA that investigated Reggie Bush when he was at USC and declared him eligible. Only to see him surrender his Heisman later on for the same infractions.

Lets not forget that Newton left Florida in a cloud of shame, when he was found to be in possession of stolen property, specifically a laptop.

Then he spent a year at a small school in Texas and really did not get any real Div 1 experience until he got to Auburn.

So I don't think Newton will go in the top ten. I think he will be lucky to go in the top 20. He will be there at 10 when Washington picks.

Be interesting to see what happens there.[/quote]

Yeah, the dude has some Chris Washburn-like history for those of you who followed basketball in the 80s. Like Washburn, he seems to be a decent kid. What is really going to give scouts & GMs fits is that he appears to have the 'it' factor & leadership ability, seems confident & comfortable in the limelight (though that nat'l championship game might've been some of his worst tape this year).

Monkeydad 01-27-2011 12:34 PM

Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft
 
[quote=sandtrapjack;780701]I am a firm ... yada yada yada...Lets not forget that Newton left Florida in a cloud...So I don't think Newton will go in the top ten. I think he will be lucky to go in the top 20. He will be there at 10 when Washington picks.

Be interesting to see what happens there.[/quote]


He could be gone at #9. Dallas needs a QB.

SkinzWin 01-27-2011 01:10 PM

Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft
 
[quote=Buster;780721]He could be gone at #9. Dallas needs a QB.[/quote]

You're kidding right? What, does new big man Mr. Garrett not like Romo?!?

freddyg12 01-27-2011 01:15 PM

Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft
 
not to mention, Kitna & McGee looked pretty decent in their time this year. I'd say they at least have a good backup in McGee for a few years. Kitna is old though.

They could draft a qb that high to groom him for a few years, I just don't see them doing that. They could add a few players & get back to contention, but another qb isn't where their needs are.

sandtrapjack 01-27-2011 02:15 PM

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[quote=Buster;780721]He could be gone at #9. Dallas needs a QB.[/quote]
Please, don't throw stones.

SBXVII 01-27-2011 03:08 PM

Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft
 
[quote=sandtrapjack;780738]Please, don't throw stones.[/quote]

Not throwing stones. I said the same thing several posts ago. It was either here or another message board, but it was mentioned that Dallas was either looking to shop Romo or that he might be let go or that his contract was not going to be renewed. In any case I remember the typical... "what do you think... sign him up? He's better then Grossman" statements.

MTK 01-27-2011 03:29 PM

Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft
 
Romo signed a 6 year deal in 2007. Outside of some silly fan talk, there has been no legit talk of him being dealt.

mredskins 01-27-2011 03:34 PM

Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft
 
If we draft Newton, me will be sad.

warriorzpath 01-27-2011 03:50 PM

Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft
 
does anyone have a video of cam newton's plays in the oregon bowl game? Don't really want a highlight video. I want a video to analyze him because so far what I've seen of locker and gabbert in their bowl games doesn't really impress me.

Lotus 01-27-2011 04:30 PM

Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft
 
[quote=warriorzpath;780754]does anyone have a video of cam newton's plays in the oregon bowl game? Don't really want a highlight video. I want a video to analyze him because so far what I've seen of locker and gabbert in their bowl games doesn't really impress me.[/quote]

Try watching the game at espn3.


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