Re: Zorn Fired
 

Here's the link for LTF's post

[url=http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/blog/2011/01/source_ravens_unhappy_with_zorns_teaching_methods.html]Ravens Insider: Source: Ravens unhappy with Zorn's teaching methods - Baltimore Ravens news, schedule, analysis and opinion - baltimoresun.com[/url]

Re: Zorn Fired
 

[quote=SmootSmack;781125]Here's the link for LTF's post

[url=http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/blog/2011/01/source_ravens_unhappy_with_zorns_teaching_methods.html]Ravens Insider: Source: Ravens unhappy with Zorn's teaching methods - Baltimore Ravens news, schedule, analysis and opinion - baltimoresun.com[/url][/quote]

Thanks for providing SS. I couldn't locate the actual link or author.

Re: Zorn Fired
 

Wait so they didn't like the Slip'n'Slide?

Re: Zorn Fired
 

At least this league source seems more credible than a JLC league source.

Re: Zorn Fired
 

I'm glad Harbaugh came out and poopoo'd the report because it sounds like BS. First off how in the world could Zorn be insubordinate? That seems almost comical. Second...they don't get to act surprised about his coaching methods...it's not like they weren't highly documented while he was here...JUST 30 MILES SOUTH. Cameron wanted more control and it wasn't going to work to have both. Period.

Re: Zorn Fired
 

So once again, Vinny Cerrato is lost in the discussion of how much he destroyed this franchise. People seem hell bent on bringing up people that were parts of his failures, such as Zorn and Jason Campbell. Honestly, anything that happens to Zorn and Campbell is not relevant Redskins news. Sure they were part of what was wrong with the team, but whether Zorn and Campbell succeed or fail elsewhere in the league shouldn't matter to the Redskins anymore and their fans.

Re: Zorn Fired
 

[quote=Ruhskins;781148]So once again, Vinny Cerrato is lost in the discussion of how much he destroyed this franchise. People seem hell bent on bringing up people that were parts of his failures, such as Zorn and Jason Campbell. Honestly, anything that happens to Zorn and Campbell is not relevant Redskins news. Sure they were part of what was wrong with the team, [B]but whether Zorn and Campbell succeed or fail elsewhere in the league shouldn't matter to the Redskins anymore and their fans.[/B][/quote]

Thats a matter of opinion Ruh. The way I see it is, By following ex Redskins, we can gain insight into what philosophies can be changed or adjusted by what is working or not working with ex Redskins.

For instance, did the guy suck or was he being coached or positioned in the wrong way. If AH gets on a team that plays the 4-3, and that team allows him to play his natural position, and he dominates, well we have to consider that the next time we bring in a player like him.

If any team needs to learn from it's mistakes, it's the Redskins.

Re: Zorn Fired
 

[quote=Ruhskins;781148]So once again, Vinny Cerrato is lost in the discussion of how much he destroyed this franchise. People seem hell bent on bringing up people that were parts of his failures, such as Zorn and Jason Campbell. Honestly, anything that happens to Zorn and Campbell is not relevant Redskins news. Sure they were part of what was wrong with the team, but whether Zorn and Campbell succeed or fail elsewhere in the league shouldn't matter to the Redskins anymore and their fans.[/quote]

JC was all Joe Gibbs.

Re: Zorn Fired
 

[quote=SmootSmack;781045]There was this too

[url=http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2009/03/26/is-orakpo-criticism-a-smoke-screen/]Inside The Bills | Is Orakpo criticism a smoke screen? «[/url]

But whatever, if there was an issue before I don't see it now with Orakpo and I think we'd all agree we're happy he's on our team[/quote]No doubt

[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Orakpo_Hopes_to_Escape_Holding_Pattern_189792.jsp]Orakpo Hopes to Escape Holding Pattern[/url]

Re: Zorn Fired
 

Flacco not pleased with Zorn getting axed, at all:

[URL="http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/blogs/sports/ravens/ravens-joe-flacco-on-jim-zorn-firing-i-m-not/article_c0c9e8ec-2bec-11e0-8a92-001cc4c03286.html"]RAVENS: Joe Flacco on Jim Zorn firing: 'I'm not happy about it' - Carroll County Times: Ravens-joe-flacco-on-jim-zorn-firing-i-m-not[/URL]

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/29/flacco-sounds-off-on-firing-of-zorn/"]
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Re: Zorn Fired
 

[quote=Ruhskins;780867]I don't get the blind hate for Zorn. Dude was over his head and the fools that hired him should get the blame. He's not blameless, but he wasn't the only problem in this team.[/quote]

Agree 100%.

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Yeah, I agree. I mean you can't blame Zorn for taking the job. I work at a pretty large company, and if htey offered me the CEO job tommarow, and gauranteed me $25 million dollars over the next five years... what am I going to say, no? That was 100% on Snyder for hiring him.... I dont want to get back on Snyder because I think that might be what made him finally realize he needed to change... but I kinda liked Zorn in a way. Not for our team as the head coach...but I certainly don't wish ill will on the guy.

Re: Zorn Fired
 

[quote=Gmanc711;781225]Yeah, I agree. I mean you can't blame Zorn for taking the job. I work at a pretty large company, and if htey offered me the CEO job tommarow, and gauranteed me $25 million dollars over the next five years... what am I going to say, no? That was 100% on Snyder for hiring him.... I dont want to get back on Snyder because I think that might be what made him finally realize he needed to change... but I kinda liked Zorn in a way. Not for our team as the head coach...but I certainly don't wish ill will on the guy.[/quote]

Hell, even if you take the money part out of the equation, Zorn does seem like a guy who is confident that he could get the job done, in his own rather original way.

Zorn's a good man though and his approach does have its merit. If I wanted someone to mentor my future kids (if I have any) or someone who needs support, Zorn would be someone I'd definitely consider. But to lead a football team, he just doesn't have the right approach.

Re: Zorn Fired
 

[quote=Dread-Skin;781071]How do I know? I usually hang out on other teams fan sites and mock them but pathetic use of time aside you figure 3rd year guy, coming back into the same system for another year, the addition of Boldin/Stallworth/Houshmanzadeh to throw to, 2 starting quality backs and a good OL, an impactful defense - I mean what more do you want. I live in Baltimore Im familiar with the Ravens. I'm a Skins fan familiar with the Zorn debacle. Ive watched Cam Cameron since he arrived in Bmore- HAVE YOU???

You look at Flacco's numbers and while his TD went up, INt's went down, YET his passing yards remained low around 3200-3500 yds.

I almost reject your question. You see there is a team called the Ravens if your not familiar. This conversation sorta needs a prerequisite of Zorn/Ravens/Cameron/Flacco/Skins- to which Im qualified not too sure about where your coming from on this.[/quote]


LOL..........yeah well, I was kinda looking more for facts ...like his yards per catch had dropped(about the same) or less TD's(up) then before or not finding the open man. but as someone else asked are they canning the recievers coach also? One thing for sure players like him so I'm still trying to understand how you think Zorn stunted Flacco's growth as a QB?

Re: Zorn Fired
 

[quote=skinsfan_nn;781216]Flacco not pleased with Zorn getting axed, at all:

[URL="http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/blogs/sports/ravens/ravens-joe-flacco-on-jim-zorn-firing-i-m-not/article_c0c9e8ec-2bec-11e0-8a92-001cc4c03286.html"]RAVENS: Joe Flacco on Jim Zorn firing: 'I'm not happy about it' - Carroll County Times: Ravens-joe-flacco-on-jim-zorn-firing-i-m-not[/URL]

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/29/flacco-sounds-off-on-firing-of-zorn/"]
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He sounds pissed , good for him.