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Re: Redskins coaches support owners in lockout

[quote=Mattyk;805366]Taking a stand against the brief implies you're siding with the owners. Come on man stop with the semantics.[/quote]

No it doesn't. It just means you aren't siding with the players either. That brief was filed to support the players. Had the coaches did that, they would be publicly siding with the players, which is also a stupid move.

This isn't semantics. Coaches should be remaining neutral in all this. (publicly at least) They shouldn't be apart of any brief supporting the players, and they shouldn't be signing letters supporting ownership. Not sure how you see them making a stand against the brief implies they are siding with owners. You'd have to stand against the brief if you wanted to remain neutral. That doesn't mean you need to sign a letter supporting the owners either.

Re: Redskins coaches support owners in lockout

The Skins filed their response before fully understanding what the intent of the brief was. The NFLCA obviously didn't properly communicate that intent, nor did they have the full support from the coaches regarding the filing of the brief to begin with.

Regardless, the NFLCA F'd this up from the start. And in the end this issue is minuscule compared to the big picture.

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[quote=Mattyk;805375]Regardless, the NFLCA F'd this up from the start.[/quote]

That much is certain.

Re: Redskins coaches support owners in lockout

[quote=NLC1054;805317]Clearly Dan Snyder has bullied every other coach in the league as well.[/quote]

Why the sympathetic defense of Snyder? He has acquired a well-earned reputation as a bully. Once a man gains a reputation as a bully, it is to be expected that he might be accused of doing something that he didn't do. Tough luck for him. If he had a reputation for treating his employees respectfully then he wouldn't have to worry about such things.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;805387]Why the sympathetic defense of Snyder? He has acquired a well-earned reputation as a bully. Once a man gains a reputation as a bully, it is to be expected that he might be accused of doing something that he didn't do. Tough luck for him. If he had a reputation for treating his employees respectfully then he wouldn't have to worry about such things.[/quote]

Because much of his reputation is actually built on BS accusations such as the one in this thread

Re: Redskins coaches support owners in lockout

[quote=SmootSmack;805392]Because much of his reputation is actually built on BS accusations such as the one in this thread[/quote]

Pretty sure that reputation is earned, and not based on BS accusations either. See his lawsuit against the Washington City Paper as pure evidence of bullying. Also, he's bullied his coaches, players, and fans so that reputation is legit.

That said, I don't agree with the claim or notion that it's Snyder behind making the coaches sign the letter backing the owners. However, I do think they did it out of fear.

Re: Redskins coaches support owners in lockout

[quote=SmootSmack;805392]Because much of his reputation is actually built on BS accusations such as the one in this thread[/quote]

See this is what a good mod does. A simple short statement that guarantees the thread will double in size as people start pulling long winded diatribes against DS.

Now that is earning your Cayman Island account!

Re: Redskins coaches support owners in lockout

For every legit reason to hate on the guy, there's probably twice as much BS out there. I've got no problem with focusing on the legit stuff, but the BS is just that.

Re: Redskins coaches support owners in lockout

Add the Eagles

[url=http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2011/6/2/2202929/andy-reid-does-not-support-the-nflca-filing-either]Andy Reid Does Not Support The NFLCA Filing Either - Bleeding Green Nation[/url]

Re: Redskins coaches support owners in lockout

[quote=SmootSmack;805392]Because much of his reputation is actually built on BS accusations such as the one in this thread[/quote]

This!!!

Re: Redskins coaches support owners in lockout

[quote=NC_Skins;805398]Pretty sure that reputation is earned, and not based on BS accusations either. See his lawsuit against the Washington City Paper as pure evidence of bullying. [B]Also, he's bullied his coaches, players, and fans so that reputation is legit[/B].

That said, I don't agree with the claim or notion that it's Snyder behind making the coaches sign the letter backing the owners. However, I do think they did it out of fear.[/quote]

Yeah, he really pushed Joe Gibbs around. Probably berating Shanny right now. Laid the smack down on Portis. I also heard he went man up with Arrington in the employee bathroom. I also heard the guys on his radio station are terrified of him and kiss his arse on their shows.

All jokes aside, are we calling him a bully because he berated Norv? That was over a decade ago.

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[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6619264]More coaches distance selves from NFLCA brief - ESPN[/url]

Looks like B&G coaches just got out in front.

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[quote=Son Of Man;805437][URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6619264"]More coaches distance selves from NFLCA brief - ESPN[/URL]

Looks like B&G coaches just got out in front.[/quote]

A lot of owners are bullies you know

Re: Redskins coaches support owners in lockout

[quote=Son Of Man;805434]Yeah, he really pushed Joe Gibbs around. Probably berating Shanny right now. Laid the smack down on Portis. I also heard he went man up with Arrington in the employee bathroom. I also heard the guys on his radio station are terrified of him and kiss his arse on their shows.

All jokes aside, are we calling him a bully because he berated Norv? That was over a decade ago.[/quote]

I had no intention of going there, but since you want examples of bullying. You can also look at many of his business ventures to see prime examples of bullying.

[url=http://larrybrownsports.com/football/daniel-snyder-does-not-like-vanilla-ice-cream-so-says-mike-nolan/792]Daniel Snyder Does Not Like Vanilla Ice Cream, So Says Mike Nolan | Larry Brown Sports[/url]
[quote] Early that season, after a Redskins loss, Snyder told Nolan that his defensive calls were “too vanilla.” Like the other coaches, Nolan had figured out by then that trying to explain football to Snyder was pointless, since he already had the game figured out. A few days later a gallon of 31 Flavors ice cream showed up on Nolan’s desk with a note that said, “This is what I like. Not vanilla.”

Nolan laughed and sent Snyder a note: “Thanks for the ice cream. My kids enjoyed it.”

“The first time it was actually kind of funny,” Nolan said. “I didn’t mind it at all.”

The next time wasn’t as funny.

The Redskins lost on the road to Dallas, and Nolan went into his office late Sunday night to start looking at game tape. When he arrived, there were three giant canisters of melting 31 Flavors ice cream on his desk with another note: “I wasn’t joking. I do not like vanilla.”[/quote]

Do I even need to remind you of how Jim Zorn was treated? Give me a break. Poor Zorn had to break down game film for Danny boy during the week to satisfy this meddling idiot.
[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/jim-zorn-broke-down-game-film-with-dan-snyder/2010/12/20/ABoXzDG_blog.html]Jim Zorn broke down game film with Dan Snyder - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post[/url]

Sure he isn't bullying guys like Gibbs or Shanny, because he can't.

Players?

[quote]Laveranues Coles is threatened by Snyder with a big screen TV, because "that's where you'll be watching the games next year" if you holdout for a new contract. Traded to the Jets for Santana Moss, and incurring a whopping $9m "dead cap" charge for the knee jerk move.
[url=http://czabe.blogspot.com/2010/12/see-ya-fatso.html]Czabe.com: See Ya, Fatso[/url]
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Not bullying?

I'd rather not turn this into a Snyder discussion. I said a couple times I do not think Snyder is behind the coaches siding with owners. I don't believe in make believe stories or things that aren't confirmed. (well, for the most part)