Re: Official Andrew Luck Thread
 

[quote=That Guy;854045]do you mean D-line? cause I'd wager 9 sacks our OL needs some work.[/quote]

Our o-line was terrible today, but they are also banged up. I am sure you can find depth and another starter in later rounds and free agency. My point is that we're at the stage where we just need a good qb. The other holes are not as major as they were before.

Yeah, it's time. QB's are such a gamble high in the draft but we're gonna need a young new face of the franchise soon.

Re: Official Andrew Luck Thread
 

[quote=Landry44;854038][B]I think that's a bad idea. We have way to many wholes on our team to invest so heavily in one player.[/B] Plus there are other great qbs that would be perfect for our system.[/quote]

It's amazing how drafting a QB and hitting on the right one will make all those 'holes' disappear...



Think about it for a second. Our defense except maybe our secondary, isn't that bad. They keep us in games. It's our offense that doesn't produce. If you have the right QB, that QB will get the ball out fast and make the right protections. As awful as our OL played today giving up 9 sacks, it's really not that bad of an OL, IF you have the right QB behind it. Our OL IMO is better than the Colts, Cowboys, Bills, Eagles, Lions, Steelers, even the patriots. It's about whose back their to get the ball out quickly, eat up the clock (for your defense to rest), slide the protection, step up in the pocket and have awareness. No defense, no matter how good it is, is going to be motivated to go out on the field and stop a team that is up 23-0, when their Offense isn't producing. None!

Re: Official Andrew Luck Thread
 

I've always been on the kellen moore bandwagon. im still here praying we get him.

Re: Official Andrew Luck Thread
 

Matt Flynn anyone?

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/908734-nfl-free-agency-2012-predicting-where-next-years-top-25-fas-will-sign/page/3]NFL Free Agency 2012: Predicting Where Next Year's Top 25 FAs Will Sign | Bleacher Report[/url]

Re: Official Andrew Luck Thread
 

[quote=Landry44;854038]I think that's a bad idea. We have way to many wholes on our team to invest so heavily in one player. Plus there are other great qbs that would be perfect for our system.[/quote]

The logic of moving up for a QB applies to anyone who Shanny deems is the future franchise QB of the team. Whether its Luck R

In regards to holes, QB is far and away the biggest hole. Unfortunately, QB is the most important position on offense.

Re: Official Andrew Luck Thread
 

[quote=Alvin Walton;854103]Matt Flynn anyone?

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/908734-nfl-free-agency-2012-predicting-where-next-years-top-25-fas-will-sign/page/3]NFL Free Agency 2012: Predicting Where Next Year's Top 25 FAs Will Sign | Bleacher Report[/url][/quote]

ooh! ooh! me! me!

Flynn and a top-notch rookie and we turn a position of weakness into a position of strength.

Re: Official Andrew Luck Thread
 

Time for a rant.

The Colts should be investigated! How can a team suck for Luck that hard and not be trying to lose? They knew that their season was lost after Peyton Manning was injured, so now it looks like they may be positioning themselves to go from 14 years with Manning at QB to a decade or more with Andrew Luck at QB. I can't hate them enough!

P.S. On top of that, the Colts will probably make some sucker organization pay a king's ransom for Manning!

End of rant.

Re: Official Andrew Luck Thread
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;854174]Time for a rant.

The Colts should be investigated! How can a team suck for Luck that hard and not be trying to lose? They knew that their season was lost after Peyton Manning was injured, so now it looks like they may be positioning themselves to go from 14 years with Manning at QB to a decade or more with Andrew Luck at QB. I can't hate them enough!

P.S. On top of that, the Colts will probably make some sucker organization pay a king's ransom for Manning!

End of rant.[/quote]

LOL...nice conspiracy theory.

Re: Official Andrew Luck Thread
 

[quote=CultBrennan59;854053]It's amazing how drafting a QB and hitting on the right one will make all those 'holes' disappear...



Think about it for a second. Our defense except maybe our secondary, isn't that bad. They keep us in games. It's our offense that doesn't produce. If you have the right QB, that QB will get the ball out fast and make the right protections. As awful as our OL played today giving up 9 sacks, it's really not that bad of an OL, IF you have the right QB behind it. Our OL IMO is better than the Colts, Cowboys, Bills, Eagles, Lions, Steelers, even the patriots. It's about whose back their to get the ball out quickly, eat up the clock (for your defense to rest), slide the protection, step up in the pocket and have awareness. No defense, no matter how good it is, is going to be motivated to go out on the field and stop a team that is up 23-0, when their Offense isn't producing. None![/quote] I completely understand how important the qb position is to any team. A great young qb can put us in contention for 10 years. But when draft a guy high and he comes in and get hammered his first and second year his skills are irrelevant. Just take a good look at Sam Bradford. Last year he was pretty good. This year you're not seeing the same player because he's supporting cast isn't all that good outside of Jackson. It doesn't matter if he's the right guy if you don't have the right people around him he will look bad. When I look at this team before the injuries we have wholes on the QB, C, LG, RG, RT, WR, NT, ILB, and CB. This team is lacking in all of those areas. One guy will not change that. Trading away future first round picks is never a good idea because you never know what you might need in the future. There are plenty of guys at the qb position in this draft that will be great players in this league. I see no reason to over compensate for a guy where you have other guys that can also get the job done.

Re: Official Andrew Luck Thread
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;854174]Time for a rant.

The Colts should be investigated! How can a team suck for Luck that hard and not be trying to lose? They knew that their season was lost after Peyton Manning was injured, so now it looks like they may be positioning themselves to go from 14 years with Manning at QB to a decade or more with Andrew Luck at QB. I can't hate them enough!

P.S. On top of that, the Colts will probably make some sucker organization pay a king's ransom for Manning!

End of rant.[/quote]

It's amazing how much Mannings injury affected their defense... No doubt Luck will be the new face of the Colts.

Re: Official Andrew Luck Thread
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;854174]Time for a rant.

The Colts should be investigated! How can a team suck for Luck that hard and not be trying to lose? They knew that their season was lost after Peyton Manning was injured, so now it looks like they may be positioning themselves to go from 14 years with Manning at QB to a decade or more with Andrew Luck at QB. I can't hate them enough!

P.S. On top of that, the Colts will probably make some sucker organization pay a king's ransom for Manning!

End of rant.[/quote]

There is NO WAY the colts are losing on purpose for a QB that many (including phil simms) say he doesn't have the arm to be a special QB in the NFL. Don't get me wrong, I think Luck will be great some day, but no way did the colts brass call the players to throw the season before the season even started. It just goes to show you that Manning truely is the MVP of this league. With him,perennial playoff bound team, without him, worst team in football.
The part about "making some sucker organization pay a kings ransom for Manning" is totally true, and can you smell Snyder's money warming up? Guess who could be the "sucker"? Although, I would still take him, but only for a jester's ransom! he's Peyton Manning after all and has good years left in him if he can return to health, but his days are sadly numbered. Any time you can get the best QB ever to walk on your team, it's a good decision, especially one with a football IQ as sky high as his is! Even if you don't agree he's the best ever, you can't argue he's a top 10...well I suppose you could argue it, but that would be foolish.

He won't leave Indy though, what better scenario for the Colts is getting Luck to simmer on the bench for 2 years and learn all Peyton knows, then take over like Rogers did in Green Bay. Rogers is amazing because he got to watch one of the all time greats and learn from him...if the Colts were smart, they would take Luck and let him develop on the bench.

Re: Official Andrew Luck Thread
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;854174]Time for a rant.

The Colts should be investigated! How can a team suck for Luck that hard and not be trying to lose? They knew that their season was lost after Peyton Manning was injured, so now it looks like they may be positioning themselves to go from 14 years with Manning at QB to a decade or more with Andrew Luck at QB. I can't hate them enough!

P.S. On top of that, the Colts will probably make some sucker organization pay a king's ransom for Manning!

End of rant.[/quote]

I've went in depth about it on another thread, but don't worry. Peyton is not coming back. He has played his last down in the NFL.

Let's say hypothetically he tries to comes back, is somehow able to pass a team physical, and is going to play again. The colts are either going to ask him to take a lower salary now that Andrew Luck is on the team (again, hypothetically!!), and they tell him that their plan is for Peyton to play one more year and tutor Luck.

If Peyton refuses, then the Colts will tell him that they will try and trade him and his contract to someone else and wish him well. Keep in mind, he will not be allowed to work out with the team while this is going on.

#2 Peyton does come back, agree to a lower salary, and basically puts his quality of life on the line to play one more season with muscle spasms in his back, and lingering nerve damage that has cut the strength of his throwing arm in half, leaving him fragile to take a huge hit.

I like Peyton and I hope he does not do this to his body for what may not even be one more full season. He is a smart guy and he is made to be in the coaches box or on the sideline as an offensive coordinator. I just couldn't fathom Manning coming back at 50% of what he was, almost a shell of a QB really....

Re: Official Andrew Luck Thread
 

Manning will be back as long as he's cleared medically

[url=http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2011/11/colts-qb-peyton-manning-unsure-if-hell-be-cleared-to-practice/1]Peyton Manning wants to play but not sure he'll be cleared[/url]

Re: Official Andrew Luck Thread
 

There are some pretty good qbs in the 2012 draft other than Luck.