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SmootSmack 05-02-2012 04:54 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;914722]But that may not be the actual reason he killed himself, even though the media will spin it that way. If he had head trauma that was bothering him then there's no way he could've played LB in the NFL til he was 40.[/quote]

A) the media isn't spinning anything any way and B) yes he could have

SmootSmack 05-02-2012 04:54 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;914723]He really must've had some serious issues to make two attempts on his life. Feel real sorry for his kids. I believe one plays football in HS.[/quote]

Think he might already been in college, playing for Kansas I think?

mlmpetert 05-02-2012 05:04 PM

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[quote=Defensewins;914704]After 19 years of playing in the NFL, plus add a college and high school football career, I am fairly certain they are going to find brain trauma. Now is there a definitive test to prove this trauma led to his depression? Probably not. But the growing amount of similar cases is leading to a probable trend.[/quote]


[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Yeah its probably fair to speculate that Seau has developed brain damage, and perhaps even CTE, from his profession and sport. But I dont think theres any proof CTE causes depression, its just a correlation.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Id like to see the correlation between those who develop depression after losing unimaginable success, fame, and lifestyles. Or someone who loses an elite ability in general. I believe cricket players are supposed to have the highest rate of suicide in pro sports. Maybe thats part cultural or maybe those who experience the reverse of rags to riches coupled with a loss of importance are at a higher likelihood of developing depression once their new found role of triviality sets in.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Junior Seau was a amazing player and is one of my favorite non-Redskins. Unfortunately it sounds like he had some very serious depression. Perhaps his early loss could have been prevented but it may have been inevitable.[/FONT][/COLOR]

mlmpetert 05-02-2012 05:09 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;914724]A) the media isn't spinning anything any way and [B]B) yes he could have[/B][/quote]


Yeah dudes play through extreme injuries all the time. Im sure major depression is one of the things near the top of that list.

Giantone 05-02-2012 05:29 PM

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God this is so sad!So many stars have trouble conforming to the tedious aspect of the day to day schedual that we have done all our lives and take for granted.Add in the fact that the chance he sufferd from concusion syndrom is pretty damn good .To damn young!!!

SmootSmack 05-02-2012 05:31 PM

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[quote=Giantone;914741]God this is so sad!So many stars have trouble conforming to the tedious aspect of the day to day schedual that we have done all our lives and take for granted.Add in the fact that the chance he sufferd from concusion syndrom is pretty damn good .To damn young!!![/quote]

Exactly what Trevor Pryce alluded to recently

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/22/sports/football/jets-trevor-pryce-is-retired-and-getting-tired-of-it.html[/url]

CapitalDefense 05-02-2012 05:33 PM

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A great NFL player, and a sad sad ending to his life.

jamf 05-02-2012 05:49 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;914743]Exactly what Trevor Pryce alluded to recently

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/22/sports/football/jets-trevor-pryce-is-retired-and-getting-tired-of-it.html[/url][/quote]

That's a great article!

Defensewins 05-02-2012 05:55 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;914722]But that may not be the actual reason he killed himself, even though the media will spin it that way. If he had head trauma that was bothering him then there's no way he could've played LB in the NFL til he was 40.[/quote]

Of course it may not be the actual reason, because there is no definitive test or way of knowing for sure.
This situation kind of reminds me of the tobacco and lung, throat and mouth cancer situation before it could be proved.
There was no way back then to scientifically prove that a heavy smoker that died prematurely of lung cancer, died directly because he smoked two packs a day. The tobacco industry paid the $ price after it could be proved scientifically that smoking tobacco can cause cancer and lied about it or concealed the truth.
Brain trauma and its direct effects are much more difficult to prove. But it does not take a rocket scientist to see former a boxers that slurs his words and suffers from other motor skill issues to know getting hit on the head repeatedly for 19+ years is not a good thing. Just like inhaling smoke is also not a great idea. It is not that difficult of an assumption to make. Science will one day catch up to this question and will either prove or disprove this theory.

Hog1 05-02-2012 05:59 PM

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I hope that dudes like Trevor Pryce are speaking at the rookie symposium...

SmootSmack 05-02-2012 06:08 PM

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[quote=jamf;914746]That's a great article![/quote]

I see this kind of stuff all the time around me. And it still amazes me. When I was 30 my career was really only just beginning. For most athletes their careers are pretty much over at 30. What they've worked all their lives for is done.

Everyone dreams of retiring early. Reality is that it's not all that much fun.

htownskinfan 05-02-2012 06:21 PM

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I turned on the sports station briefly and they said Junior Seau coming up,I thought they were going to talk to him.I was shocked to come here and see he took his own life.Very sad news

Paintrain 05-02-2012 06:25 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;914750]I see this kind of stuff all the time around me. And it still amazes me. When I was 30 my career was really only just beginning. For most athletes their careers are pretty much over at 30. What they've worked all their lives for is done.

Everyone dreams of retiring early. Reality is that it's not all that much fun.[/quote]

Also when you consider that athletes have competed at a high level on nearly a daily basis since most of them were teenagers it's a huge adjustment to not having a goal or opponent and it's difficult to deal with.

hagams 05-02-2012 06:27 PM

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Sad. I wish more people would talk about suicide like they do in the military. We get briefs on this almost monthly. It's a real problem in America. Suicide is a permanant solution, to a temporary problem.

budw38 05-02-2012 06:29 PM

Re: Junior Seau Confirmed Dead
 
[quote=SmootSmack;914743]Exactly what Trevor Pryce alluded to recently

[URL]http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/22/sports/football/jets-trevor-pryce-is-retired-and-getting-tired-of-it.html[/URL][/quote]
R.I.P. Junior ,,,,,, very sad . Loved watching him play at USC and the NFL , very passionate player . Nice article , thanks for posting it SS .


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