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Chico23231 02-28-2016 06:40 PM

Re: 2016 Combine
 
[quote=30gut;1139792]Jay ‏@RedskinsCult 12m12 minutes ago

(Updated) Confirmed prospect meetings/interviews with the #Redskins.
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcVHV60W4AA_y5T.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Interesting choosing to use so many interviews with QBs.

Alvin Walton 02-28-2016 06:43 PM

Re: 2016 Combine
 
Interesting that they talked to all those quarterbacks.

Schneed10 02-28-2016 06:44 PM

Re: 2016 Combine
 
[quote=Chico23231;1139796]Interesting choosing to use so many interviews with QBs.[/quote]

I love it. You never rest at that position.

30gut 02-28-2016 07:35 PM

Re: 2016 Combine
 
Over the past few years the top S have been drafted in the first round. There are a handful with good enough tape...Thompson, WV boys, J Cash. If they put up good measurables i think a couple will be first rounders.

Irrefutable 02-28-2016 08:06 PM

Re: 2016 Combine
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;1139797]Interesting that they talked to all those quarterbacks.[/quote]

They have none on their roster now. It is also a negotiating ploy with KC. And they need a back-up too.

DYoungJelly 02-28-2016 08:29 PM

Re: 2016 Combine
 
[quote=30gut;1139792]Jay ‏@RedskinsCult 12m12 minutes ago

(Updated) Confirmed prospect meetings/interviews with the #Redskins.
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcVHV60W4AA_y5T.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

It's way too early to make anything out of this but . . .

The highest rated players on the list that the team talked to are the D Line players and the QBs.

Everyone else on the list consistently grades out as a mid to late round picks according to:

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft]2016 NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com[/url]

KI Skins Fan 02-28-2016 09:20 PM

Re: 2016 Combine
 
I find it interesting that the Skins talked to two very talented players who might fall in the draft due to character concerns, namely Nkemdiche and Spence.

Schneed10 02-28-2016 09:38 PM

Re: 2016 Combine
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1139802]I find it interesting that the Skins talked to two very talented players who might fall in the draft due to character concerns, namely Nkemdiche and Spence.[/quote]

When there are character concerns it's a must, it's the only way to decide for yourself how much a problem it is.

ethat001 02-28-2016 11:57 PM

Re: 2016 Combine
 
[quote=Schneed10;1139803]When there are character concerns it's a must, it's the only way to decide for yourself how much a problem it is.[/quote]

Agree, a good GM could hopefully tell the difference between a Trent Williams and Fred Davis when they both got suspended for MJ. One was a good guy who got caught doing something stupid and is now a perennial ProBowler, and one was a hopeless pothead. That's a lot of interviews with players, coaches, teammates, family, neighbors, etc, etc...

Getting a good player who drops for a random one-time incident & something to prove.. would be awesome.

30gut 02-29-2016 07:39 AM

Re: WRs
 
[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1139795]I think I can convince you. He can't be an outside receiver because we're going to draft him and he'll play play slot receiver for us since we already have DJax and Pierre on the outside. At least, that's what I've been day-dreaming about.

BTW, today Darron Lee of Ohio State ran [B]4.47[/B] with a [B]1.55[/B] ten yard split. Now get this: Lee is a 6-1 232 lb. LB![/QUOTE]
Would love to see Shep in slot this year, even though I think he gives Garson a run for his spot on the outside. Imo Shep has the 1 thing PG lacks...separation.

I try to pretend I didn't see Lee b/c he'll be long gone by 21 don't want my hopes up...but I got some notes on some LB prospects I liked

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30gut 02-29-2016 11:42 AM

Re: 2016 Combine
 
[QUOTE=30gut;1139531]LBs w/size:[/QUOTE]


Josh Perry-Ohio State
6'4''--254--40: 4.68 (10 split)1.67 vert 33.5--- college OLB that may be positionless in the NFL, I would love him inside at ILB and maybe move to edge on 3rd. Big strong kid that moves well for his size

Steven Daniels-Boston College
5'11'' 243--4.86--1.68 v 32 ---tackling machine in college, downhill thumper, moved okay in drills


Jared Norris-Utah
6'1" 241--4.8--1.65 v29.5---lil stiff in drills, upright

Tyler Makatevich-Temple
6' 231--4.81--1.68 v31 ---another tackling machine; good movement in drills

Nick Kwiatkowski-WV
6'2 243 4.73--1.64 v32---Smooth in drills

CJ Johnson-Miss
6'1" 234--4.81--1.71 ---A lil stiff in drills

BJ Goodson-Clemson
6'1 242--4.71--1.65 v34.5---thumper type, moved well in drill

Joe Schobert
6'1 244 4.67--1.63 v33.5---another college OLB that can maybe kick inside smooth in drills

Reggie Ragland
6'1 247 4.72--1.66 v31.5---Okay in drills, lil choppy

Scooby Wright
6 239 4.9--1.67 v31----solid college mlb, won bunch of LB awards 2 years ago, coming off injury, decent in the drill

Blake Martinez
6'1 239 4.71 v28.5---good movement

KI Skins Fan 02-29-2016 02:06 PM

Re: 2016 Combine
 
[quote=30gut;1139818]Josh Perry-Ohio State
6'4''--254--40: 4.68 (10 split)1.67 vert 33.5--- college OLB that may be positionless in the NFL, I would love him inside at ILB and maybe move to edge on 3rd. Big strong kid that moves well for his size.

[B]Agreed about trying him inside. Very good Combine all-around for him. I wrote "Mike LB" in my notes.[/B]

Steven Daniels-Boston College
5'11'' 243--4.86--1.68 v 32 ---tackling machine in college, downhill thumper, moved okay in drills


Jared Norris-Utah
6'1" 241--4.8--1.65 v29.5---lil stiff in drills, upright

Tyler Makatevich-Temple
6' 231--4.81--1.68 v31 ---another tackling machine; good movement in drills

Nick Kwiatkowski-WV
6'2 243 4.73--1.64 v32---Smooth in drills

CJ Johnson-Miss
6'1" 234--4.81--1.71 ---A lil stiff in drills

BJ Goodson-Clemson
6'1 242--4.71--1.65 v34.5---thumper type, moved well in drill

[B]Strong as an ox! Also fast with long arms.[/B]

Joe Schobert
6'1 244 4.67--1.63 v33.5---another college OLB that can maybe kick inside smooth in drills

[B]He surprised me. Ran well and I thought he was excellent in drills. Short arms.[/B]

Reggie Ragland
6'1 247 4.72--1.66 v31.5---Okay in drills, lil choppy

[B]Agree about drills but he checked out as advertised.[/B]

Scooby Wright
6 239 4.9--1.67 v31----solid college mlb, won bunch of LB awards 2 years ago, coming off injury, decent in the drill

[B]I thought he looked terrible in drills and he ran slow. I wonder if he has recovered from his leg and foot injuries.[/B]

Blake Martinez
6'1 239 4.71 v28.5---good movement

[B]Good Combine but he didn't impress me on tape.[/B]

[/quote]

Kyle Fackrell 6-5 245 4.72 --- Ran well, OK in drills, said to be good on ST. Could be a nice later round pickup.

Some players who looked good in conversion drills who might be good 3-4 OLB prospects:

Shilique Calhoun 6-4 251 4.83 --- ran slow but looked good in drills. I think he can cover. Need to check that 40 time at his pro day.

Kamalei Correa 6-3 243 4.7 --- Terrific athlete but very short arms. Could move inside.

Noah Spence 6-2 251 4.8 --- Slow 40 but a good 10-yard split. Did not look good in space. Might be a pass rusher only.

Shaq Lawson 6-3 269 4.7 --- I dont think he can cover either. Might be a 4-3 DE.

Yannick Ngakoue 6-2 252 4.75 --- Looked very smooth and comfortable in conversion drills.

Emmanuel Ogbah and Charles Tapper are two amazing big athletes who have every physical trait a team could ever want. I don't know anything about them as football players but Ogbah did OK in the conversion drills.

30gut 02-29-2016 03:07 PM

Re: 2016 Combine
 
Didnt watch alot of the DL, i got some work to do there.

But generally speaking I'm never very worried about the coverage ability of an edge rusher.

Don't know much about the other guys but...
I like Spence, Lawson and Ogbah they proly get drafted in reverse order above. PFF was raving about Ogbah prior to the combine. Will post later.

For the ILB I was specifically looking for guys that were stout with an eye to helping out the run game. Even tho most of these guys have size some of them are scheme protected so u don't get to see them stack and shed




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KI Skins Fan 02-29-2016 04:45 PM

Re: 2016 Combine
 
I watched the Interior D-Lineman drills. Most of the known studs checked out both in their measurements and their drills.

[U]To be specific, these players looked like the real deal to me:[/U]

Andrew Billings - Very impressive quickness and power.
Joey Bosa - The Energizer Bunny. Versatile.
DeForest Buckner - Made everything look easy.
Jonathan Bullard - Fast, quick, and strong. May be a 4-3 guy at 285 pounds.
Kenny Clark - Great in drills.
Robert Nkemdiche - Amazing athlete at 294 pounds.
Sheldon Rankins - Runs well, very quick with great balance, and strong.
Jarran Reed - Top notch athlete.
A'Shawn Robinson - Same as Reed. Does Alabama have a 3-D printer for D-Lineman?

That makes 9 D-Linemen who could be 1st Round picks, IMHO.

[U]Interior Linemen whose numbers and/or drills disappointed:[/U]

Austin Johnson
Adolphus Washington

[U]Interior Linemen who surprised in a good way:[/U]

Sheldon Day - Very quick and runs well.
Javon Hargrave - Big, strong, fast, and worked out well. From South Carolina State!
Willie Henry - Has all the measureables and worked out well.
Matt Ioannidis - Big, very strong, and very athletic.
Hassan Ridgeway - Good drills, showed real power.
Jihad Ward - Looked very good in drills. Tall with long arms.

30gut 03-01-2016 02:54 PM

Re: 2016 Combine
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1139829]I watched the Interior D-Lineman drills. Most of the known studs checked out both in their measurements and their drills.

[U]To be specific, these players looked like the real deal to me:[/U]
Robert Nkemdiche - Amazing athlete at 294 pounds.
[B][COLOR="DarkRed"]Scares the heck out me with his off the field stuff...but the kid can play[/COLOR][/B]

[B]Sheldon Rankins - Runs well, very quick with great balance, and strong.[/B]
His movement ability is surprisingly nimble


[U]Interior Linemen who surprised in a good way:[/U]

Sheldon Day - Very quick and runs well.
[B]Reminds me a lot of Rankings[/B]

[B]Javon Hargrave - Big, strong, fast, and worked out well. From South Carolina State![/B]Can you believe cbs/nfldraftscout has (had maybe soon) him as a 4th rounder?

[B]Matt Ioannidis - Big, very strong, and very athletic.[/B]Carried over a good senior bowl performance

[B]Jihad Ward - Looked very good in drills. Tall with long arms[/B]
I don't know much about other then freakish athleticism he showed on that dunk, but the physical talent he displayed there was impressive enough to make me want to watch him on film[/quote]

I hate that many of the top DBs didn't run.
Disappointed in D/Thompson
Impressive 40s from TJ Green and T.Powell make me want to see them on film

KJ Dillon did enough to put him on my draft list


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