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KI Skins Fan 08-25-2017 07:39 AM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1172682]I hope we can at least get Davis on the PS. I like big, fast, strong receivers. Hell, I like that at every position lol.[/quote]

I like Brian Quick, as well.

calia 08-25-2017 10:21 AM

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Grant has had a lot of time to make an impact but hasn't. I have a feeling he may be traded or cut. With the apparent ability, hard to know why it hasn't translated.


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Schneed10 08-25-2017 10:28 AM

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[quote=calia;1172681]Maybe, but Maurice Harris has shown more in games than Grant and they like this Robert Davis kid too (particularly his size). Someone will be disappointed.



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Yeah but unless you think Gruden is just blowing smoke by talking up Grant so much, there's no way it will Grant as the one that's disappointed. I think they keep Davis because he has the deep threat ability. Harris probably gets cut.

CRedskinsRule 08-25-2017 12:54 PM

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Harris actually played well last year, can't see him being the odd man out. Gruden easily could be trying to motivate Grant by the positive talk. If we keep 5, I think Grant is gone, but 6 he stays

11 Pryor, Terrelle
80 Crowder, Jamison
18 Doctson, Josh
13 Harris, Maurice
17 Quick, James
14 Grant, Ryan
PS 9 Davis, Robert
PS 15 Hazel, Matt

gone
16 Pascal, Zach
6 Staples, Jamari CF17
83 Quick, Brian U/LAR

calia 08-25-2017 02:56 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1172688]Harris actually played well last year, can't see him being the odd man out. Gruden easily could be trying to motivate Grant by the positive talk. If we keep 5, I think Grant is gone, but 6 he stays

11 Pryor, Terrelle
80 Crowder, Jamison
18 Doctson, Josh
13 Harris, Maurice
17 Quick, James
14 Grant, Ryan
PS 9 Davis, Robert
PS 15 Hazel, Matt

gone
16 Pascal, Zach
6 Staples, Jamari CF17
83 Quick, Brian U/LAR[/quote]

I wouldn't mind seeing Grant swapped out for Robert Davis. I am not sure we can stash Davis on the PS without someone picking him up.

Schneed10 08-25-2017 02:59 PM

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I really think you guys are smoking something. Grant is a mortal lock for the roster.

Not that he deserves to be, but no chance he's even remotely on Jay's bubble.

Chico23231 08-25-2017 03:33 PM

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With Doctson virtually an unknown because he can't stay healthy makes Grant a lock imo. Plus look at Grant status among the other WR...he has seniority among the group. I think that helps him as well.

But honestly, I can't stand the guy....but he should make it.

CRedskinsRule 08-25-2017 04:04 PM

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1172691]With Doctson virtually an unknown because he can't stay healthy makes Grant a lock imo. Plus look at Grant status among the other WR...he has seniority among the group. I think that helps him as well.

But honestly, I can't stand the guy....but he should make it.[/QUOTE]I tend to think seniority in the sixth spot ought to hurt your chances to stay on the team

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Chico23231 08-25-2017 04:12 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1172694]I tend to rhink seniority in the sixth spot ought to hurt your chances to stay on the team

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Seniority gives gruden someone who is dependable who knows all the o-calls, who can run all the routes on the outside and inside, and a guy who KC has extensive experience with throwing the ball too.

Schneed10 08-25-2017 06:45 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1172694]I tend to think seniority in the sixth spot ought to hurt your chances to stay on the team

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You're thinking way too much about what you think should be, as opposed to what is.

Gruden loves Ryan Grant. He's not going anywhere, this is growing tedious.

FrenchSkin 08-26-2017 03:26 AM

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[quote=Schneed10;1172696][B]You're thinking way too much about what you think should be, as opposed to what is.[/B]

Gruden loves Ryan Grant. He's not going anywhere, this is growing tedious.[/quote]

Wow, I wasn't expecting that level of philosophical statement when checking a football forum... It's early out here, haven't had my coffee yet...

MTK 08-26-2017 07:14 AM

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Gruden talks up Grant for a reason. He clearly likes the guy. He's no superstar but it doesn't hurt to have guys like him on your roster.

insane4theskinsi 08-26-2017 05:55 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1172683]I like Brian Quick, as well.[/quote]

can he be on the preseason?i thought he had been in theleague too long?

JoeRedskin 08-27-2017 11:53 AM

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[QUOTE=insane4theskinsi;1172715]can he be on the preseason?i thought he had been in theleague too long?[/QUOTE]Admittedly, I have not been following as closely as I have in the past. As to Grant, however, he's not a starter and can't get open against starting corners or even many nickel/slot CB's. Despite this, Gruden continues to talk him up.

To me, outside the top 3, Grant is the closest there is to a lock. He is a guy who can reliably run the plays if one of the top 3 goes down. Not really true of any of the rest.

I think they keep six with the competition for the final two between Davis, Harris, and Quick with Quick being the odd man out. He is experienced, true, but that's why you keep Grant. Harris played well last year and seemed (to me anyway) to get better with play throughout the year, so he still has the "potential" factor working for him. Same with Davis who seems to be getting really good reviews.

If Harris and Davis stick, all the more reason to keep Grant.

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Meks 08-27-2017 04:31 PM

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Stock down on refs


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