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[quote=Schneed10;1185420]I lean that way too.

I wish I could find the clip - remember the 3rd and 1 against New Orleans where Gruden ran Perine to try to pick up the first down, which would have iced the game? Niles Paul missed his block in the hole, the Saints blew up the play and the rest is history.

Well after Perine got stopped there the camera showed Jay. He shook his head, and I read his lips. He said to himself 'this team has no fucking balls.'

I was too mad at the time to find it funny, but it was. It's also an indictment of the lack of toughness on the team (save for a handful of dudes), which is partly a reflection of the coaching staff, and partly the mindset of the players.

I think, in addition to getting healthy, we need to grow some onions.[/quote]

The absolute lack of competitiveness and toughness was the most heartbreaking thing about this season. Our team often looked like scared rabbits. Some games we look like we just didnt want to play or were too scared to play.
Im not talking about the guys like moses- who trucked it out all season, there are certainly people that played and played hard that give props.
But there is something wrong when you cant pick up 3rd and 1 consistently or
guys arent laying them selves out there to put it all on the line.
Is that a reflection of Cousins? Gruden? Upper management? Do we have too many oft injured guys that are just worried about getting a paycheck than winning the game? (Niles? Reed? Lauvou?)
i have no clue- i have been a big Gruden supporter- but if anything this is my harshest critiscism of him - he needs to get his players to step up and crush the opposition mercilessly. Be unforgiving and dominant.

Re: Jay Gruden expected to return in 2018
 

[quote=Schneed10;1185420]I lean that way too.

I wish I could find the clip - remember the 3rd and 1 against New Orleans where Gruden ran Perine to try to pick up the first down, which would have iced the game? Niles Paul missed his block in the hole, the Saints blew up the play and the rest is history.

Well after Perine got stopped there the camera showed Jay. He shook his head, and I read his lips. He said to himself 'this team has no fucking balls.'

I was too mad at the time to find it funny, but it was. It's also an indictment of the lack of toughness on the team (save for a handful of dudes), which is partly a reflection of the coaching staff, and partly the mindset of the players.

I think, in addition to getting healthy, we need to grow some onions.[/quote]

They need a killer instinct. There's no excuse with not being able to pick up one yard, especially if the game hinges on that play.

Re: Jay Gruden expected to return in 2018
 

[quote=Schneed10;1185420]I lean that way too.

I wish I could find the clip - remember the 3rd and 1 against New Orleans where Gruden ran Perine to try to pick up the first down, which would have iced the game? Niles Paul missed his block in the hole, the Saints blew up the play and the rest is history.

Well after Perine got stopped there the camera showed Jay. He shook his head, and I read his lips. He said to himself 'this team has no fucking balls.'

I was too mad at the time to find it funny, but it was. It's also an indictment of the lack of toughness on the team (save for a handful of dudes), which is partly a reflection of the coaching staff, and partly the mindset of the players.

I think, in addition to getting healthy, we need to grow some onions.[/quote]



It's hard to say that grown ass men and pro athletes don't have any balls but it def looks like our team was lacking it, and Jay has no room to talk with his sissy ass play calling in games.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1185430]It's hard to say that grown ass men and pro athletes don't have any balls but it def looks like our team was lacking it, and Jay has no room to talk with his sissy ass play calling in games.[/quote]

I think athletes are trying to keep themselves healthy because they want to be just marketable enough to chase the $$$.

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This team went 7-9 despite being decimated by injuries and people are seriously doubting their competitive fire and toughness? Get the F outta here.

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[quote=MTK;1185435]This team went 7-9 despite being decimated by injuries and people are seriously doubting their competitive fire and toughness? Get the F outta here.[/quote]

Absolutely I am and I think you’re nuts if you don’t see a difference between the way the Skins play and the way some of the tougher teams do.

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[quote=Schneed10;1185440]Absolutely I am and I think you’re nuts if you don’t see a difference between the way the Skins play and the way some of the tougher teams do.[/quote]

Agreed. If anybody thinks they saw fire and competitiveness in that Giants game, then they're on drugs.

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[quote=metalskins;1185484]Agreed. If anybody thinks they saw fire and competitiveness in that Giants game, then they're on drugs.[/quote]

Last game of the season and it was 10 degrees, no excuse but def not shocked by it. Pro players do this all over the league in games like this. Not just the skins

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1185486]Last game of the season and it was 10 degrees, no excuse but def not shocked by it. Pro players do this all over the league in games like this. Not just the skins[/quote]

#thingsloserssay

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Yeah I don't get the infatuation with Gruden, just seems like yet another example of NFL coaching nepotism.

If his last name was Williams he wouldn't still have this job.

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One game doesn’t define the entire season

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[quote=MTK;1185493]One game doesn’t define the entire season[/quote]

New Orleans. Chargers. Both Dallas games.

Some sissy shit in all of em Matty.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1185496]New Orleans. Chargers. Both Dallas games.



Some sissy shit in all of em Matty.[/QUOTE]


Raiders, Rams, Seahawks, Broncos

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His play calling also almost cost us the niners game. Fuckin guy has no killer instinct when the shit is on the line.... I'm over his bullshit he's soft. I wish we moved on already but if the team retains him then root for him i must.

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[quote=MTK;1185497]Raiders, Rams, Seahawks, Broncos[/quote]

The Raiders win stands out as a plus and reason to be hopeful - the Swearinger hit that decleated Beast Mode was exactly what we need to see. It came when the team was healthy and had some swagger.

Rams another good one early in the season. And the Seahawks win was probably the single most impressive of all.

But it needs to be more consistent. You can be tough in a few games but you have to be tough in all of them. There were too many where we looked soft. It contributed to the 7-9 record.