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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1345036]I am beating a dead horse here but I was disappointed with the Mathis pick last year and Martin pick this year (Forbes pick to an extent this year bc I thought we could trade back still get a guy and some mid round picks that can be used for oline) Defensive success other than QB pressure is so variable from year to year yet we continue to invest in it with high draft picks. I'd prefer to focus on offense which is more sustainable year to year.[/quote]

Who is Mathis?.

Oh the guy who out injured again?

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[quote=skinsfan69;1345034]I wanted to go to this game so bad. Denver is such a great city. I hope we win this game just to see that cocky bitch Payton go 0-2.[/quote]

Same here, its a 2 hour flight for me but I just didn't want to waste the $ if we were SHITTY lol

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1345035]Quan Martin: zero snap defense

Coulda used a Oline pick there in the second round[/QUOTE]


Yeah thank God we took a guy with position versatility or whatever the fuck its called for 2025 because our oline is solid. Fuckin idiots. I cannot wait until we clean house this offseason. Will be really great to have a competent staff and FO.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1345004]Well Fuller and Samuel are free agents next year, so no savings to be had. They have huge amounts of cap next year so no need to cut players for cap space, cut them based on performance not cap hit. Drafting OL and TE 1st and 2nd respectively would seem to be the best scenario. But if they don't improve this year there will be a clearout and every position is up for grabs. If Ron is still here he will pick a DL and a project LB.[/quote]

Leno and Thomas are done after this year and need to go.

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So while the oline was not great, it was serviceable in pass protection. It was TERRIBLE at run blocking, but the vast majority of the sacks were on Howell. He held the ball WAY WAY WAY too long and was very slow in processing what was going on around him. Lots of slows too late and needs to learn to throw the ball around. This is Howells first game in a new offense, and second overall, so i do think he will improve and has some good moments as well.

Logan Thomas needs to be benched for Turner. Thomas has 4 or 5 drops and was horrendous as a blocker. Turner looked much better in his limited play and needs to play more.

Running game needs improvement from the oline, but also improvement from the play calling. Where were any read option plays? We need to find a way to get the running game going!!

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1345043]So while the oline was not great, it was serviceable in pass protection. It was TERRIBLE at run blocking, but the vast majority of the sacks were on Howell. He held the ball WAY WAY WAY too long and was very slow in processing what was going on around him. Lots of slows too late and needs to learn to throw the ball around. This is Howells first game in a new offense, and second overall, so i do think he will improve and has some good moments as well.

Logan Thomas needs to be benched for Turner. Thomas has 4 or 5 drops and was horrendous as a blocker. Turner looked much better in his limited play and needs to play more.

Running game needs improvement from the oline, but also improvement from the play calling. Where were any read option plays? We need to find a way to get the running game going!![/quote]

Wylie is straight dog-ass. Give me (from left to right):

Leno, Charles, Stromberg, Gates, Cosmi or Leno, Charles, Gates, Stromberg, Cosmi.

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Studs and duds
[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2023/9/11/23867302/washington-commanders-vs-arizona-cardinals-studs-and-duds[/url]

The last bullet under notes is for Chico

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1345043]So while the oline was not great, it was serviceable in pass protection. It was TERRIBLE at run blocking, [B]but the vast majority of the sacks were on Howell[/B]. He held the ball WAY WAY WAY too long and was very slow in processing what was going on around him. Lots of slows too late and needs to learn to throw the ball around. This is Howells first game in a new offense, and second overall, so i do think he will improve and has some good moments as well.

Logan Thomas needs to be benched for Turner. Thomas has 4 or 5 drops and was horrendous as a blocker. Turner looked much better in his limited play and needs to play more.

Running game needs improvement from the oline, but also improvement from the play calling. Where were any read option plays? We need to find a way to get the running game going!![/quote]

Couldn't agree more.

Listen too Al Galdi most recent podcast: episode 653

He brought up the same thing and apparently in the scouting report on SH out of NC was that he took too many sacks.

Between this OLINE and SH, its going get ugly.

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Grades from yesterday

Sam = 61 Pass grade (Expected)

COSMI = 71 overall Grade , 88 Pass , 61 Run
Charles = 56 Overall Grade 84 pass , 43 Run
Leno = 78 overall , 70 Pass , 81 RUN
Wylie = 66 Overall . 70 pass , 65 Run
Gates = 60 Overall , 56 Pass , 68 Run

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DEFENSE

ALLEN - 90 Overall Grade
A Anderson = 89 overall
Sweat = 88 Overall
Kurl = 78
Payne = 66

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1345051]Grades from yesterday

Sam = 61 Pass grade (Expected)

COSMI = 71 overall Grade , 88 Pass , 61 Run
Charles = 56 Overall Grade 84 pass , 43 Run
Leno = 78 overall , 70 Pass , 81 RUN
Wylie = 66 Overall . 70 pass , 65 Run
Gates = 60 Overall , 56 Pass , 68 Run[/quote]

Wylie was our 3rd best lineman. Yeah, our line was dog-shit. Good to see from Leno though. He's not that old, so he's definitely a candidate for a bounce-back season.

Cosmi needs to be moved back to Right Tackle. Let Stromboli, Gates, and Wylie have a 3-man competition for the C, RG positions.

Not good overall numbers from Charles. But his pass grade was high, so I'm going to give him a pass on the run-numbers for one game. He needs to bump that 43 up though.

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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1345046]Studs and duds
[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2023/9/11/23867302/washington-commanders-vs-arizona-cardinals-studs-and-duds[/url]

The last bullet under notes is for Chico[/QUOTE]


Wylie is just a joke. But Rivera is a bigger joke for thinking he was good enough and neglecting tackles in the draft because there was a guy with position versatility. He is just so clueless. Luckily they are two of the clowns that will be gone next year.

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[quote=punch it in;1345065]Wylie is just a joke. But Rivera is a bigger joke for thinking he was good enough and neglecting tackles in the draft because there was a guy with position versatility. He is just so clueless. Luckily they are two of the clowns that will be gone next year.[/quote]

I would probably pin this more on EB, since he probably had some input on Wylie.

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Can we stop talking about KC?
He isn't coming back.

Happy to see the team get a win.
There are a shit ton of red flags but I don't care right now.

I'm taking the approach that next year will be better.
This year, we will figure out what we have with Chase Young and Sam Howell.

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1345067]I would probably pin this more on EB, since he probably had some input on Wylie.[/QUOTE]


Definitely did I would imagine since he came over from the Chiefs but Ron is the HC, and he is responsible for not drafting a tackle in the second.