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skinsfan_nn 09-04-2007 07:50 PM

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[quote=FinNasty;347195]17-13? Thats your idea of "stoping the ship" out of us?[/quote]

3-2 is stomping the shit outta ya! lol

I was just trying to make Dr. Feelgood thank you where in for a real game.


Really, I think it's gonna be a really good close hard fought out game....check out page one, post #3 or so.

I think WE WIN a close one at the house! Score remains the same.

Doctor Feelgood 09-04-2007 07:51 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan_nn;347193]I knew there was something wrong with you, ya damn cross dresser! I saw the comment you wrote to gus [/QUOTE]

Oh, you mean the one where I called "him" (??) out for ignorantly saying "The Dolphins D isn't top 10" despite the fact that we had the #4 D last year, and upgraded by adding Joey Porter and getting Travis Daniels back to full health? And with Michael Lehan emerging in the pre-season as a legit #3 corner, we now have a secondary that should be at least as good as last year's if not better. Heck, just that fact that Yeremiah Bell will now be a full-time starter at safety for us should make this year's D better than last season.

Anyway... if you guys want to predict a Skins win, that's fine. It should be a close game and it could easily go either way. But to say that the Dolphins "D" isn't even in the top 10 is just ignorant, barring a horrible rash of injuries or a some other crazy act of god.

hooskins 09-04-2007 07:55 PM

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[quote=FinNasty;347194]So back to football hooskins...

Do you feel your offensive line will be able to protect Campbell from our pass rush well enough to generate a consistant offense?[/quote]

Good question, I think that is probably our major concerns, along with the offense just clicking but I guess that goes hand in hand with our ability to stop your pass rush.

Personally I think we have some excellent blocking TE's and Backs(Sellers, Portis, etc) who could be able to pick up the olines slack. Just like I would imagine you guys on offense, we will be doing some quick passes, screens, etc to protect Jason.

hooskins 09-04-2007 07:57 PM

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I think a bigger thing for us is to establish the run. If we get that going then I am confident we can win, but that is going to hard agaisnt your run D.

Doctor Feelgood 09-04-2007 08:02 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan_nn;347196]3-2 is stomping the shit outta ya! lol

I was just trying to make Dr. Feelgood thank (sic) you where in for a real game.


Really, I think it's gonna be a really good close hard fought out game....check out page one, post #3 or so.
[/QUOTE]

Hey, have you seen me predicting any blowout win by the Dolphins? I know it's going to be a heck of a game. That's why I said 10-7, as I see a low scoring (but hard hitting) defensive battle shaping up.

Of course I *hope* the Dolphins win 72-0, but I'll take a "W" anyway we can get it. :)

skinsguy 09-04-2007 08:12 PM

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I've enjoyed reading this thread. It's fun watching the chess match between the 'Skins fans and the Fins Fans. Here is my prediction:

Redskins -- 24
Dolphins -- 20

Dolphins will score 10 of those points in two minute offenses late in the fourth quarter, so the game won't really be that close. Redskins' D will score one TD, Campbell will toss in a couple TD passes.

I don't believe the Dolphins D will be pushovers, but I don't see them being as hot as the Fins Fans make them out to be. Last year's rankings were last year's rankings. Our defense is scary good this year AND they have gotten much younger as well.....well, besides the front 4, but we don't really rely on them much anyways.

NoviSkins 09-04-2007 08:12 PM

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This yerimiah bell character is really starting to scare me...think we can trade taylor or landry for him before sunday????!!!!!!

hooskins 09-04-2007 08:17 PM

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[quote=NoviSkins;347207]This yerimiah bell character is really starting to scare me...think we can trade taylor or landry for him before sunday????!!!!!![/quote]

Um, what?

[IMG]http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-content/uploads/caveman_3.jpg[/IMG]

Burger 09-04-2007 08:20 PM

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Dolphins 24 Skins 6

Campbell will be confused by the speedy Dolphins Defence. The leagues worst defence will be back in Dc again and Ronnie Brown will run for at least 130 yards.

skinsguy 09-04-2007 08:22 PM

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[QUOTE=Burger;347210]Dolphins 24 Skins 6

Campbell will be confused by the speedy Dolphins Defence. The leagues worst defence will be back in Dc again and Ronnie Brown will run for at least 130 yards.[/QUOTE]

What's a defence?

Mr.Anderson 09-04-2007 08:31 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;347075]Fins and Mr. Anderson.... Who the hell is running your front office? Why would you get rid of Culpepper for 37 year old Trent Green? That move just made no sense what so ever. Green can't stretch the field anymore. Didn't you guys watch the tapes from KC games last year? He is no longer starting material.[/QUOTE]

We were asking ourselves that same question until D-DAY!
There was an abundant supply of pissed off Fans when they cut Dante and signed Green.

I stood outside Dolphin stadium and screamed for hours "Trent Sucks" Keep Dr.Pepper" but the rent-a-cops finally imposed their will and forced me to leave the premisis.

I really did try and make a difference but it didnt pan out for me personally.

I did manage to start a traffic jam when I mooned the cheerleaders.
So I guess that was something.

Dante should still be in a uniform, Beck should be the future of our franchise Green is another Merc stopping in for a retirement check, as long as he can improve our Offense by 10 points per game he will give us a shot at the playoffs.
We are proud of our defense on most Sundays we just have that offensive sputter condition that hopefully Cam will resolve.

Go Culpepper!
LOL

Riggo44 09-04-2007 08:31 PM

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[QUOTE=dmek25;346853]skins 24
dolphins 10
our defense is back. and trent green gets kocked the f*** out( from what movie?)[/QUOTE]

Redskins 33
Dolphins 17

And the movie is Friday.

Mr.Anderson 09-04-2007 08:32 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsguy;347212]What's a defence?[/QUOTE]


Its the opposite of datfence! LMAO good one!!

skinsfan_nn 09-04-2007 08:39 PM

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[quote=Doctor Feelgood;347197]Oh, you mean the one where I called "him" (??) out for ignorantly saying "The Dolphins D isn't top 10" despite the fact that we had the #4 D last year, and upgraded by adding Joey Porter and getting Travis Daniels back to full health? And with Michael Lehan emerging in the pre-season as a legit #3 corner, we now have a secondary that should be at least as good as last year's if not better. Heck, just that fact that Yeremiah Bell will now be a full-time starter at safety for us should make this year's D better than last season.

Anyway... if you guys want to predict a Skins win, that's fine. It should be a close game and it could easily go either way. But to say that the Dolphins "D" isn't even in the top 10 is just ignorant, barring a horrible rash of injuries or a some other crazy act of god.[/quote]


Hey Doc, no predicting....WE WILL WIN! FACTOID

But I just caught your post before you edited the post and the gus thing was dumb! You guys have a solid D and we have a very solid underestimated D, that will make a statement in this game.

I think anyone that takes our offense lightly due to JC's first year as a starter is gonna be in for a big suprise....or should I say let down.

It will be a really good way to start the season for US with a close hard fought HOME VICTORY.....you will be in our house and will return to miami with a loss, if you would like to put a waiger on that lets roll.

FINAL:
REDSKINS=17
GAYFINS=13

Osmo 09-04-2007 09:47 PM

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Hey guys,
another phin fan from phinfever.com here...

There have been some really good posts here (and a few homerish ones from both team's fans).

I have to say i think this will definately be a defense battle and it comes down to which team can establish the running game... either way i don't see either team scoring more then 24 points. I willl have ot give the offensive edge to Washington with Betts being a great compliment to Portis, and us introducing a new offensive scheme. On Defense I still believe that Miami has that edge, though washington does look to have gotten better on paper this year i still don't see washington's front 7 forcing any team to go to the air, if they do shut down miami's rushing attack then it will be a long game for miami.

with all that being said i feel this is a game that is tooo close to call even though i hope for a Miami win... either way goodluck and let's ohope for an injury free game.

47YAC 09-04-2007 09:53 PM

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cooley - 47, dolphins - 0

skinsfan69 09-04-2007 10:31 PM

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[quote=FinNasty;347108]Green knows this offense like the back of his hand. Culpepper has no clue about this offense... so how is Pepper going to mentor Beck? I love Pep, one of my favorite players. He went to my college, UCF! However, what makes Pep awesome is his physical abilities. Mobility and a cannon. He isnt great at reading coverages.

Green is a 1 year player for us... if that. Beck may be brought in halfway through this season. The new staff didnt like Pep, post injury, and wanted to go in a different direction. And with Cameron's and Mueller's history with QBs... I am definatly willing to take their word on it...[/quote]

Just cause he knows the offense doesn't mean he can execute it. KC runs the same offense or a similar version and they stunk on offense w/ Green.

724Skinsfan 09-04-2007 10:41 PM

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What the hell was I thinking? The final score will be Redskins 27, Dolphins 17. I'll bet at least 70 Chip agrees with me.

FinNasty 09-04-2007 10:44 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;347274]Just cause he knows the offense doesn't mean he can execute it. KC runs the same offense or a similar version and they stunk on offense w/ Green.[/QUOTE]

When he was actually running the Coryell offense... he played well in it. Herm Edwards and the new coaching staff changed that offense when he got there. It wasnt what it was previous years...

70Chip 09-04-2007 10:45 PM

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[quote=724Skinsfan;347285]What the hell was I thinking? The final score will be Redskins 27, Dolphins 17. I'll bet at least 70 Chip agrees with me.[/quote]

I said 27 - 13. They don't have Fulton Walker anymore. But Green will manage one more field goal than Woodley did.

atomicnixon 09-04-2007 11:20 PM

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It came to me in a dream.

REDSKINS - 34
FINS - 0

Carter - 1 Sack
Smoot - 1 Pick on 3 and 12

dall-assblows 09-04-2007 11:24 PM

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[quote=atomicnixon;347306]It came to me in a dream.

REDSKINS - 34
FINS - 0

Carter - 1 Sack
Smoot - 1[B] Pick on 3 and 12[/B][/quote]

what was the time on the clock? what quarter? lol

holcknowsbest 09-04-2007 11:30 PM

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Santana Moss has a HUGE DAY! i dont think anyone in that secondary has seen speed like that since he played for the jets....he will have a big day, and that will help get the running game going....SKINS 30 Dolphins 10, i think the dolphins get a lucky score or a defensive touchdown.

dall-assblows 09-04-2007 11:35 PM

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you know im going to take the road less traveled and say we lose.

yep you read correctly, lose. i think it will be a tough game for JC. tough day for samuels who will be rusty.

an if i just jinxd us then soo be it, i dont believe in that shit anyways

TheMalcolmConnection 09-05-2007 08:30 AM

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[quote=Osmo;347259]Hey guys,
another phin fan from phinfever.com here...

There have been some really good posts here (and a few homerish ones from both team's fans).

I have to say i think this will definately be a defense battle and it comes down to which team can establish the running game... either way i don't see either team scoring more then 24 points. I willl have ot give the offensive edge to Washington with Betts being a great compliment to Portis, and us introducing a new offensive scheme. On Defense I still believe that Miami has that edge, though washington does look to have gotten better on paper this year i still don't see washington's front 7 forcing any team to go to the air, if they do shut down miami's rushing attack then it will be a long game for miami.

with all that being said i feel this is a game that is tooo close to call even though i hope for a Miami win... either way goodluck and let's ohope for an injury free game.[/quote]

Most sensible Miami post yet...

This game is going to go either way with a super low scoring output. While of course I'm hoping it swings 13-10 Washington, it could just as easily be Miami, unless that Saunders offense has been kept under wraps all summer and goes off at home this Sunday.

vaoutlaws2006 09-05-2007 09:35 AM

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skins 13
fins 6

a defensive battle. dont overlook that defense coming in here but that offense thats another story.

Cowell 09-05-2007 09:53 AM

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Dolphins 13
Redskins 7

Lets face it the Redskins don't have much of an offense this year. I think our defense will be close to what we thought it was though, but not enough to stop the Phins despite the fact they don't have a great offense.

skinsfan_nn 09-05-2007 10:00 AM

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[quote=Cowell;347385]Dolphins 13
Redskins 7

Lets face it the Redskins don't have much of an offense this year. I think our defense will be close to what we thought it was though, but not enough to stop the Phins despite the fact they don't have a great offense.[/quote]

Our defense will kill there offense!

How much of our offense do you think you've really seen to this point?

Don't forget CS & CP will be ready for the opener.

MTK 09-05-2007 10:01 AM

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[quote=Cowell;347385]Dolphins 13
Redskins 7

[B]Lets face it the Redskins don't have much of an offense this year.[/B] I think our defense will be close to what we thought it was though, but not enough to stop the Phins despite the fact they don't have a great offense.[/quote]

Why is that??

Cowell 09-05-2007 10:05 AM

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Why is that? We don't. We have no receivers with exception of Cooley and Moss. You know the Phins are going to have a safety keeping an eye on Moss all day and I wouldn't be suprised to see them bring a 3rd corner out in 2 TE sets. I'm giving us a chance. I think our defense will look great. I expect us to be all over the Dolphins pass routes, but I have a feeling the Dolphins will be all over ours and if it comes down to a turnover, which it probably will the Dolphins are going to win.

TheMalcolmConnection 09-05-2007 10:11 AM

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Two elite receivers sounds good to me. Most teams don't have even THAT.

skinsfanthru&thru 09-05-2007 11:19 AM

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Skins 20
Miami 10

*Campbell throws for a little over 200 yards and one td & one int
*Betts and Portis combine for around 125 yards on the ground and one td
*Defense records 2-4 sacks most of which coming from the lbs and cbs and they are also gonna force 1 int and 1-2 fumbles.

skinsguy 09-05-2007 11:28 AM

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[QUOTE=Mr.Anderson;347218]Its the opposite of datfence! LMAO good one!![/QUOTE]

LOL! :D

MTPhan 09-05-2007 11:37 AM

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Sorry I am late but my view is that this game will come down to the running game vs. the Defensive line. Portis has a career rushing average of 4.7 and Brown has a career average of 4.3. Portis is a better back but both are over 4 which could mean that on average the both teams should be in 3rd and 2 situations. I know I am extrapolating quite a bit but bear with me.
Defending the run begins with the D line. Therefore you have to ask yourself is- Is my teams D line good enough to keep running back X from getting his 4 plus yards per carry?

GTripp0012 09-05-2007 12:13 PM

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[quote=Cowell;347393]Why is that? We don't. We have no receivers with exception of Cooley and Moss. You know the Phins are going to have a safety keeping an eye on Moss all day and [B]I wouldn't be suprised to see them bring a 3rd corner out in 2 TE sets.[/B] I'm giving us a chance. I think our defense will look great. I expect us to be all over the Dolphins pass routes, but I have a feeling the Dolphins will be all over ours and if it comes down to a turnover, which it probably will the Dolphins are going to win.[/quote]If they did this, we should be able to rush for 300 yards.

Joe Ribbs BBQ 09-05-2007 12:21 PM

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Some interesting info, some I knew, some I have forgot about, and some is interestingly new info for me to ponder and share......
I.E. Cam Cameron coached ARE (when he was the QB for the hoosiers)

(from redskins.com)

Miami Dolphins head coach Cam Cameron will coach his first game as an NFL head coach. He was previously offensive coordinator with the San Diego Chargers.
Cameron served as the Redskins' quarterbacks coach under Norv Turner from 1994-96. He helped develop the skills of QBs Gus Frerotte, a Pro Bowler in 1996, and Trent Green.

From 1997-2001, Cameron was head coach at Indiana University. Among his players was current Redskins wide receiver Antwaan Randle El, who played quarterback for the Hoosiers.




-- FAMILIAR FACES ON THE DOLPHINS

Head coach Cam Camerion served as Redskins quarterbacks coach from 1994-96.
Linebackers coach George Edwards was defensive coordinator for the Redskins in 2003. He was assistant defensive coordinator and linebackers coach for the Redskins in 2002.
Running backs coach Bobby Jackson was the running backs coach from the Redskins from 1994-99.
Wide receivers coach Terry Robiskie was a Redskins interim head coach for three games in 2000, taking over the position after Norv Turner was let go by the team midseason. Robiskie served as wide receivers coach and passing game coordinator for the Redskins from 1994-2000.
Head strength and conditioning coach Matt Schiotz spent the 2001 season with the Redskins as an assistant strength and conditioning coach.
Quarterback Trent Green served as Redskins reserve quarterback from 1995-97. In 1998, Green started 14 games for the Redskins and completed 278-of-509 passes for 3,441 yards, 23 touchdowns and 11 interceptions.

Schneed10 09-05-2007 12:28 PM

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[quote=MTPhan;347423]Sorry I am late but my view is that this game will come down to the running game vs. the Defensive line. Portis has a career rushing average of 4.7 and Brown has a career average of 4.3. Portis is a better back but both are over 4 which could mean that on average the both teams should be in 3rd and 2 situations. I know I am extrapolating quite a bit but bear with me.
Defending the run begins with the D line. Therefore you have to ask yourself is- Is my teams D line good enough to keep running back X from getting his 4 plus yards per carry?[/quote]

I think that's oversimplifying the art of run-defense.

The line certainly plays a huge role in stymying offensive linemen and holding firm at the line of scrimmage, but the LBs play just as big a role. Mainly, the middle LB on both teams, Zach Thomas and London Fletcher, will play a big role in aligning the defensive line before the snap. And then the quickness of the LB corps and their abilities to avoid blockers as they run to the ball plays into it.

I'd modify your stance to say it's RB vs front 7. Stalemate for both teams. But the Redskin offensive line is much more talented - it's just a matter of whether they can come together for this game. If Kendall and Samuels get on the same page, it's advantage Redskins.

But in addition, you have to factor the secondary vs the WRs in the run defense equation. The Dolphins have no scary WRs, unless Ginn becomes the next Randy Moss. You're going to see LaRon Landry in the box a whole lot on Sunday - because I don't think Trent Green is scaring anybody. If Miami tries to load the box against Jason Campbell, I PROMISE you he will make you pay.

Luckily for Miami, they have Jason Taylor, and can probably rush Campbell pretty well with just the front 4.

I see a close game, but the advantage goes to the Skins.

VTSkins897 09-05-2007 12:44 PM

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I don't usually like predicting but...

Washington 27
Miami 13

willyboy23 09-05-2007 01:15 PM

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"Schlesinger, Hakim among Dolphins' cuts
Posted: Burger @ Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:21 am
PalmBeachPost.com Reports:

The Miami Dolphins, long considered an aging team without enough developing players, took another step in a continuing youth movement as the team settled on its 53-man roster.

On Saturday, the Dolphins terminated the contracts of 35-year-old fullback Cory Schlesinger and 30-year-old wide receiver Az Hakim - the biggest names among the 22 players the franchise released. [COLOR="Red"][B]The Dolphins' current roster includes 25 players who haven't made an NFL start, including 13 rookies - 10 of them making up the 2007 draft class. Of the 53 players, 28 were not on the team's final 2006 roster.[/B][/COLOR]"

So, what's this mean?? Tells me that trying to predict how the Fins will do is a problem for everyone (us included). 28 new players, 25 non-starters and 13 rookies means trying to make plans very difficult for Joe and company. IMHO what we ought to do is ignore the Fin's "capabilities" and prepare to blast them from here to eternity with te o'line, Portis, Betts, Cooley, etc...If that doesn't work- we go to our "finesse" game with the wideouts. If that doesn't work, then Miami deserves to win...

firstdown 09-05-2007 01:24 PM

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[quote=willyboy23;347460]"Schlesinger, Hakim among Dolphins' cuts
Posted: Burger @ Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:21 am
PalmBeachPost.com Reports:

The Miami Dolphins, long considered an aging team without enough developing players, took another step in a continuing youth movement as the team settled on its 53-man roster.

On Saturday, the Dolphins terminated the contracts of 35-year-old fullback Cory Schlesinger and 30-year-old wide receiver Az Hakim - the biggest names among the 22 players the franchise released. [COLOR=red][B]The Dolphins' current roster includes 25 players who haven't made an NFL start, including 13 rookies - 10 of them making up the 2007 draft class. Of the 53 players, 28 were not on the team's final 2006 roster.[/B][/COLOR]"

So, what's this mean?? Tells me that trying to predict how the Fins will do is a problem for everyone (us included). 28 new players, 25 non-starters and 13 rookies means trying to make plans very difficult for Joe and company. IMHO what we ought to do is ignore the Fin's "capabilities" and prepare to blast them from here to eternity with te o'line, Portis, Betts, Cooley, etc...If that doesn't work- we go to our "finesse" game with the wideouts. If that doesn't work, then Miami deserves to win...[/quote]
Good post and welcome to the site.


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