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[QUOTE=Daseal;404302]Gibbs had said over and over he would fulfill his contract. The whole 5 years. I was curious if someone would be upset over that. It's a fair gripe, in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
I guess I don't ever remember hearing him say "I will fill out my 5 year contract regardless of the circumstances in my personal or professional life." If someone's got a link to an article or soundbyte I'd love to have it - I'm not privy to all the local news in D.C. given that I don't live in the area any more. |
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[quote=mheisig;404381]I guess I don't ever remember hearing him say "I will fill out my 5 year contract regardless of the circumstances in my personal or professional life."
If someone's got a link to an article or soundbyte I'd love to have it - I'm not privy to all the local news in D.C. given that I don't live in the area any more.[/quote] What he always said was he [U]intended[/U] to coach for the full 5 years. Obviously circumstances changed, and he had a change of heart. Haven't well all had something similar happen to us at some point? |
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[QUOTE=BleedBurgundy;404342]Don't you think that past success is indicative of future success? I'd say you'd have to have more faith in them than in someone who has NOT gotten it done at the highest level. We're not talking about guys who had a good year or two. They've demonstrated consistent skill at managing a NFL team.[/QUOTE]
Indicative maybe, but not a guarantee. It's like the disclaimer at the bottom of every stock or mutual fund recommendation. "Past performance does not predict future performance." |
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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;404383]What he always said was he [U]intended[/U] to coach for the full 5 years.
Obviously circumstances changed, and he had a change of heart. Haven't well all had something similar happen to us at some point?[/QUOTE] That's exactly my point. Seems pretty easy to accept in my mind. Of course his intentions were to fulfill his contract and win a Super Bowl or three. I guess some people took "I intend" as "I will absolutely do, regardless of changing personal and professional circumstances." Language is important folks. An intention is not an iron-clad guarantee. |
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This isn't terribly surprising for me yet I didn't think he'd kick bricks before the end of his contract..
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[quote=GMScud;404367]I thought his grandson was doing much better? Everything I saw said his leukemia was in the remission stage and the treatments are much easier than last year. And was Gibbs' health suffering? I mean I know he has diabetes, but he's dealt with that for years...[/quote]
While this may be true (I don't know), I would think the death of Sean is a pretty stark reminder of the frailty of life to a man like Joe, and a reminder that you need to think about what's truly important in your life. For everyone who's upset that Joe didn't finish the contract, or any of that stuff, ask yourself this question -- "What if Joe came back next season and keeled over from a heart attack and died?" Wouldn't we all pretty much feel like selfish bastards and wish he'd retired, the same way we'd wish for pretty much any outcome for Sean other than the one we got? Having just lost my grandfather, a lifelong Redskins fan, and a man who was among the strongest and most positive people I've ever met, a man who also had an extraordinary amount of faith and was one of the most successful people I knew -- certainly a man who was always a "winner" -- I can say I understand why Joe would want to walk away now. My grandfather and Coach Joe probably would have gotten along very, very well. And if my grandfather were alive today I know he'd tell me to focus on all the good things Joe accomplished while he was here, not on his decision to retire (again). Finally I just want to say that Joe is a true leader, and what that entails doesn't always show up on the stat sheet, but it does show up on the hearts and minds of the people he worked with, who will be forever changed as a result of being associated with him. A huge part of leadership is the task of building up other leaders and then passing the torch. In his true brilliance of leadership, Joe has made Snyder a better owner, Williams and Saunders better coaches (to say nothing of all their assistants), and many players on the team better players and men. Most importantly, he has returned the confidence of the fans, and restored just a portion of the lost luster of this organization, enough to give people hope for the next 20 years. And, if you think about it, the phrase "he doesn't have anything else to prove" is really key here. Joe didn't have anything else to prove when he came back four years ago. In fact, you could say he did it to give back to the organization that he loves so much. He did it at the cost of a lot of personal sacrifice: health, time with his family, and frankly an awful lot of second-guessing, mean-spirited commentary from analysts and fans, and at the expense of a coaching record that had been Legendary and now looks "only" Really, Really Good by comparison. Our only regret should be that the timing couldn't have been better, but honestly, there's never a great time for things like this. We'll soon see if the right decisions have been made on selecting Joe's successor, but I would be shocked if continuity and camraderie in the locker room aren't made the highest priority. |
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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;404354]Laugh all you want about Cameron but that guy will be a winner[/QUOTE]
Whats up your lovefest w/ Cam Cameron. Are you related to him? |
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This just sucks. I mean, I was really starting to believe that this team would be turned around by Joe and now he steps down. I don't know where they go from here, but I hope that it isn't to Gregg Williams. I don't trust him as a head coach.
Also, I hope that the new coach doesn't decide that since he didn't pick Jason, Jason isn't his QB. It would be another wasted first round QB. I would like to see a young guy in the Mike Tomlin mold come in and give this team a jump start and a coach who could be here for 10 years. |
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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;404354]Laugh all you want about Cameron but that guy will be a winner. [/QUOTE]
His record at Indiana and in Miami says otherwise. He's no Norv Turner, oh wait.. |
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[quote=Redskins_P;404395]Whats up your lovefest w/ Cam Cameron. Are you related to him?[/quote]
Cam has free time now. I bet this IS him. He's probably registered on Ravens and Falcons forums too. |
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[QUOTE=Redskins_P;404395]Whats up your lovefest w/ Cam Cameron. Are you related to him?[/QUOTE]
No I'm not, I guess most of you all could have said the same thing about Gibbs when he was hired after being the OC of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers back in the 70's. Watch the offense of the team that hires him, if Garrett leaves the Cowboys and they hire him watch what he'll do. |
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[QUOTE=FRPLG;404275]That's stretching for a silver lining.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. But, hey, any boat in a storm. |
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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;404354]Laugh all you want about Cameron but that guy will be a winner. On another subject I wouldn't be surprised if Bugel also steps down. How do Gregg Williams and Al Saunders get along? Wasn't there some kind of distance between the O and D? How about ego's, if Williams gets the job who's to say Saunders won't step down cause he didn't get it?[/QUOTE]
I guess some people are just immune to reality. :doh: |
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I suspected something might be up when my call with Joe Gibbs Racing was cancelled today. And then one of my coworkers sent me an email early in the AM "What exactly is Gibbs going to advise the Redskins on?"
But...DAMN!! I really didn't see this coming. Resigning as HC doesn't completely surprise me but I thought for sure he'd be President still. The Wrong President Resigned :) (free sig, there for the taking) Seriously though, I'm admittedly upset. Not with Gibbs, but just with the fact that he's gone sooner than expected. And for the second time we don't have the opportunity to prepare for it and give him a proper send off (farewell tour)? It's how he wants it I suppose, but it's a shame that we spent so much time dissecting every aspect of his performance (down to the most minute details), yet never really took the time-or had the opportunity to take the time-to appreciate that our team, our beloved Washington Redskins, were led by one of the true legends of all of sports. I think a lot of us have taken what we had in him for granted. And had he said "I'm back for one more year and that's it" then maybe we would have spent time thanking him. You can call for a change and an infusion of youth all you want, that's fine. But I don't think there is a single fan of the NFL who can deny or refuse to appreciate the impact he had on the team, the city, and the entire league. At the same time, sometimes news like this just needs to hit you hard then you need to just rip it off like a band-aid instead of letting it linger. Now, as to the future. I haven't heard much, all I know at this point is that he'll be a part owner/advisor. But the advisor part will be a bit more impactful than it sounds supposedly. Still he won't be in a day to day management capacity. Now, why did he resign? Haven't heard much there either. A couple of things I have heard, he was tempted to resign last year after his grandson was diagnosed with leukemia. However, he was upset (angry?) at how the season went and how he and the team were perceived. So he wanted at least one more year to get them back to respectability. Then when Sean Taylor died, he started reevaluating things and wondering where his priorities were that he would pass up the chance to be with his real family to take care of the Redskins family. Something else I was told late last night some of his top assistants, not Saunders or Williams, but I did hear the name Bugel (don't know how true it is, my source on that one isn't reliable), weren't keen on coaching much longer and Gibbs wanted to leave with them. There's also another rumor that Snyder wasn't keen on giving some of those guys extensions like he supposedly was with Gibbs. Anyhow, that's all I've heard so far...which is really not much. As always, if I hear anything I'll tell...some of you. Honestly though, when the season began did anyone think if Gibbs resigned it would NOT be the biggest Redskins news of the year? RIP Sean |
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By Joe, you are forever a Redskin
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I am as deflated by the news today of Joe Gibbs' retirement as I was elated in 2004 when I read the first report that Joe Gibbs was coming back to coach the Skins. I'm glad we had him for four more years. Now we need to maintain the momentum he helped create late in the season. This is a sad day.
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[quote=SmootSmack;404415]I suspected something might be up when my call with Joe Gibbs Racing was cancelled today. And then one of my coworkers sent me an email early in the AM "What exactly is Gibbs going to advise the Redskins on?"
But...DAMN!! I really didn't see this coming. Resigning as HC doesn't completely surprise me but I thought for sure he'd be President still. The Wrong President Resigned :) (free sig, there for the taking) Seriously though, I'm admittedly upset. Not with Gibbs, but just with the fact that he's gone sooner than expected. And for the second time we don't have the opportunity to prepare for it and give him a proper send off (farewell tour)? It's how he wants it I suppose, but it's a shame that we spent so much time dissecting every aspect of his performance (down to the most minute details), yet never really took the time-or had the opportunity to take the time-to appreciate that our team, our beloved Washington Redskins, were led by one of the true legends of all of sports. I think a lot of us have taken what we had in him for granted. And had he said "I'm back for one more year and that's it" then maybe we would have spent time thanking him. You can call for a change and an infusion of youth all you want, that's fine. But I don't think there is a single fan of the NFL who can deny or refuse to appreciate the impact he had on the team, the city, and the entire league. At the same time, sometimes news like this just needs to hit you hard then you need to just rip it off like a band-aid instead of letting it linger. Now, as to the future. I haven't heard much, all I know at this point is that he'll be a part owner/advisor. But the advisor part will be a bit more impactful than it sounds supposedly. Still he won't be in a day to day management capacity. Now, why did he resign? Haven't heard much there either. A couple of things I have heard, he was tempted to resign last year after his grandson was diagnosed with leukemia. However, he was upset (angry?) at how the season went and how he and the team were perceived. So he wanted at least one more year to get them back to respectability. Then when Sean Taylor died, he started reevaluating things and wondering where his priorities were that he would pass up the chance to be with his real family to take care of the Redskins family. Something else I was told late last night some of his top assistants, not Saunders or Williams, but I did hear the name Bugel (don't know how true it is, my source on that one isn't reliable), weren't keen on coaching much longer and Gibbs wanted to leave with them. There's also another rumor that Snyder wasn't keen on giving some of those guys extensions like he supposedly was with Gibbs. Anyhow, that's all I've heard so far...which is really not much. As always, if I hear anything I'll tell...some of you. Honestly though, when the season began did anyone think if Gibbs resigned it would NOT be the biggest Redskins news of the year? RIP Sean[/quote] Good info Smoot. all sounds realistic, especially the bit about Snyder not wanting to extend Bugel et al. If true, that may have given Joe the out he needed, or the final straw in making his decision. Not saying it all came down to that, but combined w/other factors, I can see how he would see it's his time to go if Buges and Breaux were leaving too. |
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[QUOTE=Buster;404400]Cam has free time now.
I bet this IS him. He's probably registered on Ravens and Falcons forums too.[/QUOTE] Very Funny!! Welcome to the forum Cam! Sorry about your job |
Re: HOLY SHIT, Joe resigns
[QUOTE=MonkFan4Life;404114]My heart LITERALLY just sank ![/QUOTE]
This about says it all. It was one of those tidbits of news that you read and suddenly it feels like someone threw a boulder on you or something. I guess I knew it was a possibility, but I really thought he would stick around. |
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Just when you thought you couldn't get any lower.
First there was all those injuries, then the losing streak, then the loss of Taylor...finally the ship had turned and we went to playoffs only to lose to, what I feel, was an inferior team, and now this. Excuse me while I go to the corner for a while and cry. |
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[quote=jsarno;404475]This about says it all.
It was one of those tidbits of news that you read and suddenly it feels like someone threw a boulder on you or something. I guess I knew it was a possibility, but I really thought he would stick around.[/quote] It was crazy because I was talking to one of my boys on the phone about the Skins and he was like, " Oh shit, no young...Get the fuck out of here " So I asked him what was he talking about and he said, " Joe Gibbs retired, ESPN just said it. Then I refreshed my Warpath window and saw it, still didn't believe it. Then I went to ESPN and I was done. He started talking about Brian Billick and I was really mad. I told him I didn't "want to hear that shit right now" I was done, this is the second time I've gotten this news. I thought he was going to leave though. After the Seattle game I just had a feeling that the team was headed in the right direction and that he did what he came to do. You add that to his ailing grandson and you can understand it happening. I hoped he would stay, even signing an extention but as the old addage goes, all good things must come to an end. Hail To The Redskins !!! |
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[quote=jsarno;404483]Just when you thought you couldn't get any lower.
First there was all those injuries, then the losing streak, then the loss of Taylor...finally the ship had turned and we went to playoffs only to lose to, what I feel, was an inferior team, and now this. Excuse me while I go to the corner for a while and cry.[/quote] I fell apart at work and couldn't get my act together, so I left. I'm a pretty tough cookie, but also a very passionate person. To say I'm passionate about Joe Gibbs would be an understatement. I just hoped he would finish out and I guess I selfishly wanted that 5th year to prepare for his departure. |
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[quote=SmootSmack;404415]I suspected something might be up when my call with Joe Gibbs Racing was cancelled today. And then one of my coworkers sent me an email early in the AM "What exactly is Gibbs going to advise the Redskins on?"
But...DAMN!! I really didn't see this coming. Resigning as HC doesn't completely surprise me but I thought for sure he'd be President still. The Wrong President Resigned :) (free sig, there for the taking) Seriously though, I'm admittedly upset. Not with Gibbs, but just with the fact that he's gone sooner than expected. And for the second time we don't have the opportunity to prepare for it and give him a proper send off (farewell tour)? It's how he wants it I suppose, but it's a shame that we spent so much time dissecting every aspect of his performance (down to the most minute details), yet never really took the time-or had the opportunity to take the time-to appreciate that our team, our beloved Washington Redskins, were led by one of the true legends of all of sports. I think a lot of us have taken what we had in him for granted. And had he said "I'm back for one more year and that's it" then maybe we would have spent time thanking him. You can call for a change and an infusion of youth all you want, that's fine. But I don't think there is a single fan of the NFL who can deny or refuse to appreciate the impact he had on the team, the city, and the entire league. At the same time, sometimes news like this just needs to hit you hard then you need to just rip it off like a band-aid instead of letting it linger. Now, as to the future. I haven't heard much, all I know at this point is that he'll be a part owner/advisor. But the advisor part will be a bit more impactful than it sounds supposedly. Still he won't be in a day to day management capacity. Now, why did he resign? Haven't heard much there either. A couple of things I have heard, he was tempted to resign last year after his grandson was diagnosed with leukemia. However, he was upset (angry?) at how the season went and how he and the team were perceived. So he wanted at least one more year to get them back to respectability. Then when Sean Taylor died, he started reevaluating things and wondering where his priorities were that he would pass up the chance to be with his real family to take care of the Redskins family. Something else I was told late last night some of his top assistants, not Saunders or Williams, but I did hear the name Bugel (don't know how true it is, my source on that one isn't reliable), weren't keen on coaching much longer and Gibbs wanted to leave with them. There's also another rumor that Snyder wasn't keen on giving some of those guys extensions like he supposedly was with Gibbs. Anyhow, that's all I've heard so far...which is really not much. As always, if I hear anything I'll tell...some of you. Honestly though, when the season began did anyone think if Gibbs resigned it would NOT be the biggest Redskins news of the year? RIP Sean[/quote] I find it real hard to believe that Snyder did not want to extend Bugel. Maybe Don B. cause he really has no role. But not Bugel. Buges has done an amazing job and I think Snyder has a real fondness for him. I remember when OBC was having trouble protecting the QB and Snyder hired Buges as a consultant. I think Buges wants to be with his family too. His daughter just had her arm taken off. |
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[QUOTE=Lady Brave;404511]I fell apart at work and couldn't get my act together, so I left. I'm a pretty tough cookie, but also a very passionate person. To say I'm passionate about Joe Gibbs would be an understatement. I just hoped he would finish out and I guess I selfishly wanted that 5th year to prepare for his departure.[/QUOTE]
Hey, you're not the only one. As several have pointed out here, I am extremely passionate about the Skins, I live and breathe Skins, and this felt like a punch in the gut. I do not blame Gibbs at all, but like you, I was hoping for that last year on the contract to prepare. Luckily I am off today to absorb this...it seems like the word of the day for me is just "DAMN". |
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I don't like our post gibbs history....
:(...A decade of seeing my team lose and only make 1 playoff appearance. |
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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;404516]I find it real hard to believe that Snyder did not want to extend Bugel. Maybe Don B. cause he really has no role. But not Bugel. Buges has done an amazing job and I think Snyder has a real fondness for him. I remember when OBC was having trouble protecting the QB and Snyder hired Buges as a consultant. I think Buges wants to be with his family too. His daughter just had her arm taken off.[/QUOTE]
I think it was the Breaux's and Burns' types of the staff that were not exactly being welcome back with open arms. |
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[QUOTE=jsarno;404517]Hey, you're not the only one. As several have pointed out here, I am extremely passionate about the Skins, I live and breathe Skins, and this felt like a punch in the gut. I do not blame Gibbs at all, but like you, I was hoping for that last year on the contract to prepare.
Luckily I am off today to absorb this...it seems like the word of the day for me is just "DAMN".[/QUOTE] It's all you can say...other than "WOW"....followed by damn. A great coach, and an even better man. This really makes the Dallas game my dad and I got to go to even more special. |
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Crazy! Ever since I joined this board I've said Gibbs should move beyond the HC (part of the reason I joined actually) but after I really thought through it I really hoped he would stay on w/ the organization - President, GM, whatever. This is a shock. I completely understand w/ the rest of you how he is looking to be w/ family but to completely retire? All I can figure is that he did not want any official position - maybe he's an all or nothing guy.
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I am not concerned about the coaching part of Gibbs leaving. We have the best coaching staff in the NFL and hopefully Snyder will not feel the need to make his typical splash of announcing some big name coach from outside the organization. [B]Dan please promote from within.[/B]
My big concern in the front office. I was going back and forth with Smootsmack yesterday on another thread about my concerns in the Front Office. We finally both agreed that with Gibbs around there is no immediate problem. Well now with Gibbs leaving we are back with the two headed draft failures in Cerratto/Snyder. These two guys wrote the book on how to mismanage player personnel and salary cap for an NFL Organization. Their track record is not very good. I do not want them running the front office. This is not good. |
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[quote=jsarno;404517]Hey, you're not the only one. As several have pointed out here, I am extremely passionate about the Skins, I live and breathe Skins, and this felt like a punch in the gut. I do not blame Gibbs at all, but like you, I was hoping for that last year on the contract to prepare.
Luckily I am off today to absorb this...it seems like the word of the day for me is just "DAMN".[/quote] I feel like the wind as been knocked out of me too. I'll probably feel better after I hear him speak. Right now, I just need someone to tell me not to worry and everything will be ok. God, I sound like such a sap. I really need to get it together. I hereby reserve the right to go back through this thread and edit my posts to reflect what an emotional retard I am. |
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[QUOTE=Defensewins;404534]I am not concerned about the coaching part of Gibbs leaving. We have the best coaching staff in the NFL and hopefully Snyder will not feel the need to make his typical splash of announcing some big name coach from outside the organization. [B]Dan please promote from within.[/B]
My big concern in the front office. I was going back and forth with Smootsmack yesterday on another thread about my concerns in the Front Office. We finally both agreed that with Gibbs around there is no immediate problem. Well now with Gibbs leaving we are back with the two headed draft failures in Cerratto/Snyder. These two guys wrote the book on how to mismanage player personnel and salary cap for an NFL Organization. Their track record is not very good. I do not want them running the front office. This is not good.[/QUOTE] But... that may be exactly the kind of special advisory role Gibbs will play from this point forward to Dan and Vinny. I'm not willing to accept that those two guys haven't learned anything from 4 seasons of Gibbs' leadership. |
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[QUOTE=MTRedskinsFan;404539]But... that may be exactly the kind of special advisory role Gibbs will play from this point forward to Dan and Vinny. I'm not willing to accept that those two guys haven't learned anything from 4 seasons of Gibbs' leadership.[/QUOTE]
Please no more Snyderatto runing the Redskins. They have proven to be failures. Why does Snyder have one set of rules for ability to do your job for players and coaches and another for him and Vinny? I am not willing to accept them running the team again after the track record they left behind them. Gibbs is just now turning the team around from the mess they created. |
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[quote=Lady Brave;404538]I feel like the wind as been knocked out of me too. I'll probably feel better after I hear him speak. Right now, I just need someone to tell me not to worry and everything will be ok.[/quote]
Don't worry, everything will be ok.... ;) |
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[QUOTE=Lady Brave;404538]I feel like the wind as been knocked out of me too. I'll probably feel better after I hear him speak. Right now, I just need someone to tell me not to worry and everything will be ok.
God, I sound like such a sap. I really need to get it together. I hereby reserve the right to go back through this thread and edit my posts to reflect what an emotional retard I am.[/QUOTE] If you can't be emotional now when the Skins are in disarray, when can you? |
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i'm not upset at all. I'm almost happy. I think most of my posts show that I love gibbs and want him to stay but if he is ready to go then more power to him. He wouldn't leave us unless he felt that we were heading in the right direction. I'm not happy to see him go but happy that he feels he can go. Gibbs put all the pieces together. We are a FAR better team then we were when he came here. He did a fantastic job and i am happy for him. I'm not REALLY surprised and i wasn't when i heard it, especially after it was hinted at after his press conference yesterday.
Its all good. We have gone to the playoffs twice in the last 3 years and that is much better than the skins have been my whole life. Whats not to like. I love our players. Really, there are teams with crazy ass stupid players but we have character. We are fun. Every team in the NFL has a different type of character but i honestly like ours the best. All of our players are fun and good guys. Just look at the interviews from today and you can see our team is mature. I don't think many players act this way when their coach retires. They had a lot of respect for Gibbs and what he has done here. Rock said the team is like a family. I just hope it stays that way. I think it will if GW is our coach. If we promote from within then gibbs is a fucking magician. He comes in and fixes up the team and slowly backs away and prepares us for his leaving. This year he took a step back in his duties and got us ready for when he was going to leave. That is awesome. He set this team up for future greatness. He is the man. Today is a good day. We should celebrate gibbs and nothing more today. Today isn't a bad day at all. He didn't come back to win championships but he came back to put us in position to win in the future. |
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[QUOTE=Defensewins;404534]I am not concerned about the coaching part of Gibbs leaving. We have the best coaching staff in the NFL and hopefully Snyder will not feel the need to make his typical splash of announcing some big name coach from outside the organization. [B]Dan please promote from within.[/B]
My big concern in the front office. I was going back and forth with Smootsmack yesterday on another thread about my concerns in the Front Office. We finally both agreed that with Gibbs around there is no immediate problem. Well now with Gibbs leaving we are back with the two headed draft failures in Cerratto/Snyder. These two guys wrote the book on how to mismanage player personnel and salary cap for an NFL Organization. Their track record is not very good. I do not want them running the front office. This is not good.[/QUOTE]This has probably been mentioned, but what about bringing Charley Casserly back? He still does Redskins analysis for Comcast so he can't hate the team all that much for letting him go. Plus, his last draft with Houston looks pretty good after 2 seasons. |
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[quote=jsarno;404547]If you can't be emotional now when the Skins are in disarray, when can you?[/quote]
I have to say...I'm glad I can come on here and see other people feel the same as I do... I've been on the verge of tears all day... Thank God I work in a job that requires me to wear wraparound sunglasses alot because they've been put to use...lol |
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[QUOTE=ArtMonkDrillz;404551]This has probably been mentioned, but what about bringing Charley Casserly back?
He still does Redskins analysis for Comcast so he can't hate the team all that much for letting him go. Plus, his last draft with Houston looks pretty good after 2 seasons.[/QUOTE] Be careful you will piss alot people off by mentioning Casserly. I don't hate or like him, but for some reason some people hate him on this site. Kind of weird. But for some reason some like Cerratto. I am not sure why? Maybe it is all the success when he and Snyder were running the show. |
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The day Coach Gibbs came back was one of the happiest days of my life.
Today is one of the saddest. I feel like crying. |
Re: Gibbs to Resign as HC/President
[QUOTE=dgack;404391]While this may be true (I don't know), I would think the death of Sean is a pretty stark reminder of the frailty of life to a man like Joe, and a reminder that you need to think about what's truly important in your life.
For everyone who's upset that Joe didn't finish the contract, or any of that stuff, ask yourself this question -- "What if Joe came back next season and keeled over from a heart attack and died?" Wouldn't we all pretty much feel like selfish bastards and wish he'd retired, the same way we'd wish for pretty much any outcome for Sean other than the one we got? Having just lost my grandfather, a lifelong Redskins fan, and a man who was among the strongest and most positive people I've ever met, a man who also had an extraordinary amount of faith and was one of the most successful people I knew -- certainly a man who was always a "winner" -- I can say I understand why Joe would want to walk away now. My grandfather and Coach Joe probably would have gotten along very, very well. And if my grandfather were alive today I know he'd tell me to focus on all the good things Joe accomplished while he was here, not on his decision to retire (again). Finally I just want to say that Joe is a true leader, and what that entails doesn't always show up on the stat sheet, but it does show up on the hearts and minds of the people he worked with, who will be forever changed as a result of being associated with him. A huge part of leadership is the task of building up other leaders and then passing the torch. In his true brilliance of leadership, Joe has made Snyder a better owner, Williams and Saunders better coaches (to say nothing of all their assistants), and many players on the team better players and men. Most importantly, he has returned the confidence of the fans, and restored just a portion of the lost luster of this organization, enough to give people hope for the next 20 years. And, if you think about it, the phrase "he doesn't have anything else to prove" is really key here. Joe didn't have anything else to prove when he came back four years ago. In fact, you could say he did it to give back to the organization that he loves so much. He did it at the cost of a lot of personal sacrifice: health, time with his family, and frankly an awful lot of second-guessing, mean-spirited commentary from analysts and fans, and at the expense of a coaching record that had been Legendary and now looks "only" Really, Really Good by comparison. Our only regret should be that the timing couldn't have been better, but honestly, there's never a great time for things like this. We'll soon see if the right decisions have been made on selecting Joe's successor, but I would be shocked if continuity and camraderie in the locker room aren't made the highest priority.[/QUOTE] bravo ... you hit the nail right on the head.....and yes what else is there for joe to prove heck he already has three superbowl rings to his credit..and not to mention he has carried out that same example in nascar with the people who work thru him at the raceshop in charlotte. joes family comes first.... amen |
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