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[quote=Giantone;586371]Dominant I don't know about but he was one if not the best avaiable but none of that was in the NFC East which has the best O lines in the league, still alot of questions about his health and fitness.[/quote]

You would think that a Giants fan would have more respect for defensive line play.

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17-13 Redskins. It'll be a defensive slugfest. Campbell will do well though.

[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;586105]

Tampa 94 - Dallas 3 :woot:[/quote]
Now thats the kind of math I'd like to see. Unfortunately Dallas will probably kill Tampa in that game but hey we can still dream right?

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[quote=Buster;586432]Whoa...weren't you the guy who picked AGAINST the Skins every week last season?

I was waiting to see the pessimist's prediction![/quote]

Yep, just waiting for reality to slap me in the face again. It's a shame because I have ocean front property on cloud 9 and I rarely get to use it. Hopefully I don't have to leave early again this year.

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Mort just announced on twitter that he's predicting the Redskins beat the Giants on Sunday.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;586440]17-13 Redskins. It'll be a defensive slugfest. Campbell will do well though.


Now thats the kind of math I'd like to see. Unfortunately Dallas will probably kill Tampa in that game but hey we can still dream right?[/quote]Eh. Tampa's got as much if not more roster talent than Dallas does. They've won 19 games in the last two seasons, the Cowboys have won only 22. The key is whether or not they've made enough progress this preseason (lots of roster turnover) to reach the level we already know the Cowboys are at.

I have no ability to predict that, so I'm just giving the benefit of the doubt to my homerism and picking against Dallas.

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[quote=GTripp0012;586470]Mort just announced on twitter that he's predicting the Redskins beat the Giants on Sunday.[/quote]

John Clayton is quietly predicting good things for our team and he's very high on Orakpo. Glad to hear that Mort thinks we can beat the Giants. I wouldn't mind for our team to be this year's cause of the annual fire Coughlin phase that NY fans go through :)

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[quote=RedskinRat;586092]Redskins 17 - Giants 12

One of those ugly NFC East games where you wonder WTF they were doing all preseason.[/quote]

[url=http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2009/09/ny_giants_cb_terrell_thomas_sa.html]NY Giants CB Terrell Thomas says he will start against Redskins - NJ.com[/url]

I'm revising my prediction to:

Redskins 35 - Giants 12

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[quote=Ruhskins;586473]John Clayton is quietly predicting good things for our team and he's very high on Orakpo. Glad to hear that Mort thinks we can beat the Giants. I wouldn't mind for our team to be this year's cause of the annual fire Coughlin phase that NY fans go through :)[/quote]A lot of the national media is trying to use past tendencies to pinhole the Redskins as a 6-8 win team. Specifically, they're drawing similarities between past failures and our actions this year where similarities do not exist.

There are cold, hard, statistics to support the fact that the Redskins might actually just be a 6-8 win team. But even those numbers don't support the notion that the Redskins CANNOT compete in this division with their current team. They simply suggest that the smart money would be on the Giants, and that the other three teams in the division have a 10-20% chance to win it each. Which is fine. Even the Patriots have about a 20% chance of finishing behind someone in the AFC East this year. The things that will actually determine who wins the division are largely out of our players' control anyway.

But the media is taking the above evidence, and presenting it in a way that suggets that there's no way the Redskins can outlast all three teams in the division. That's a limb and it's a completely unsupported limb.

At some point this year, maybe next Monday, maybe seven weeks down the road, it WILL look like the Redskins are the favorites in the NFC East. Same deal for the Eagles and the Giants. Perhaps the Cowboys as well. The reason the percentages come out the way they have is that for the Redskins to win the NFC East, things will need to keep going in their favor for the next three months. That's not likely, but it's certainly possible.

Long story short, there's no evidence that backs a prediction that the Redskins are a non-competitive team in the NFC East.

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[quote=Buster;586437]I'll just leave this here.

[IMG]http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k56/chad212_2006/6kydw93.gif[/IMG]

:woot:[/quote]

That's a great hit but Landry needs to be smarter than that. Taunting is a 15 yarder.

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[quote=skinsfan69;586495]That's a great hit but Landry needs to be smarter than than. Taunting is a 15 yarder.[/quote]

Not as bad as Plaxico's penalty. :)

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[quote=Buster;586496]Not as bad as Plaxico's penalty. :)[/quote]

lol.

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From [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/preview09/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&page=1stand10/09week1"]Clayton's First & 10[/URL] article this week :)

[QUOTE]3. Washington Redskins at New York Giants: If you are looking for a playoff sleeper, don't look past the Redskins. The schedule breaks right for them because it's the easiest in the NFC East. They play six winnable games against the Buccaneers, Broncos, Chiefs, Raiders, Lions and Rams. If they can do anything positive in division play, they could be a playoff team. The defense, which was good last season, is better with the additions of Albert Haynesworth and Brian Orakpo. Quarterback Jason Campbell looks better now that Redskins coach Jim Zorn is letting him go downfield more.

Meanwhile, Giants coach Tom Coughlin seems a little worried. He has one of the best offensive lines in football, but it has aged a little. The defensive line is just now starting to get healthy, but it hasn't had a chance to come together during the preseason. Sunday will be a big test.[/QUOTE]

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[quote=GTripp0012;586481]A lot of the national media is trying to use past tendencies to pinhole the Redskins as a 6-8 win team. Specifically, they're drawing similarities between past failures and our actions this year where similarities do not exist.

There are cold, hard, statistics to support the fact that the Redskins might actually just be a 6-8 win team. But even those numbers don't support the notion that the Redskins CANNOT compete in this division with their current team. They simply suggest that the smart money would be on the Giants, and that the other three teams in the division have a 10-20% chance to win it each. Which is fine. Even the Patriots have about a 20% chance of finishing behind someone in the AFC East this year. The things that will actually determine who wins the division are largely out of our players' control anyway.

But the media is taking the above evidence, and presenting it in a way that suggets that there's no way the Redskins can outlast all three teams in the division. That's a limb and it's a completely unsupported limb.

At some point this year, maybe next Monday, maybe seven weeks down the road, it WILL look like the Redskins are the favorites in the NFC East. Same deal for the Eagles and the Giants. Perhaps the Cowboys as well. The reason the percentages come out the way they have is that for the Redskins to win the NFC East, things will need to keep going in their favor for the next three months. That's not likely, but it's certainly possible.

Long story short, there's no evidence that backs a prediction that the Redskins are a non-competitive team in the NFC East.[/quote]

this is exactly why I cringe whenever I hear someone (except a few) talking about the Skins. Its as if they completely disregard any improvement and instead focus on what happened last year or so on, or the Danny factor.

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This comment from Jason Reid is so true:

Despite the addition of defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth and the impressive showing by rookie defensive end/strong-side linebacker Brian Orakpo, the Redskins will not be able to produce as they hope to defensively if Rogers is not right physically. Although DeAngelo Hall has the big contract and moved into the No. 1 corner slot Shawn Springs previously held, [B]the reality is that Hall gives up a lot of big plays and has throughout his career.[/B]

Hall also is going to make a lot of big plays, and the Redskins re-signed him, in part, because of his knack for getting interceptions. Rogers has dropped many would-be interceptions throughout his career, but no corner in the NFC East was better in coverage than Rogers for a long stretch last season.

"I'll be ready, and I think we can be good, real good, as a secondary," Rogers said. "I'm just ready to get going."

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I hope Rogers earns a big fat contract this year.

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[quote=53Fan;586545]I hope Rogers earns a big fat contract this year.[/quote]I worry to no end about the kind of team that looks at it's *three* first day draft picks from 2005-2006 and says to itself, "you know who has really earned a new contract...Rocky McIntosh!"

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[quote=53Fan;586545]I hope Rogers earns a big fat contract this year.[/quote]

He's going to have to go out and play 16 games. Plus play at the level he did the first half of last year. The fact that he's already hurt concerns me.

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[quote=GTripp0012;586481]A lot of the national media is trying to use past tendencies to pinhole the Redskins as a 6-8 win team. Specifically, they're drawing similarities between past failures and our actions this year where similarities do not exist.

There are cold, hard, statistics to support the fact that the Redskins might actually just be a 6-8 win team. But even those numbers don't support the notion that the Redskins CANNOT compete in this division with their current team. They simply suggest that the smart money would be on the Giants, and that the other three teams in the division have a 10-20% chance to win it each. Which is fine. Even the Patriots have about a 20% chance of finishing behind someone in the AFC East this year. The things that will actually determine who wins the division are largely out of our players' control anyway.

But the media is taking the above evidence, and presenting it in a way that suggets that there's no way the Redskins can outlast all three teams in the division. That's a limb and it's a completely unsupported limb.

At some point this year, maybe next Monday, maybe seven weeks down the road, it WILL look like the Redskins are the favorites in the NFC East. Same deal for the Eagles and the Giants. Perhaps the Cowboys as well. The reason the percentages come out the way they have is that for the Redskins to win the NFC East, things will need to keep going in their favor for the next three months. That's not likely, but it's certainly possible.

Long story short, there's no evidence that backs a prediction that the Redskins are a non-competitive team in the NFC East.[/quote]

I saw John Clayton on ESPN and he said the Skins were his sleeper team. He said with their easy schedule its not out of the realm of possibility that the Skins could win 11.

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[quote=irish;586569]I saw John Clayton on ESPN and he said the Skins were his sleeper team. He said with their easy schedule its not out of the realm of possibility that the Skins could win 11.[/quote]

Clayton's one of our biggest advocates here...I hope to meet him some day and thank him

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[quote=skinsfan69;586566]He's going to have to go out and play 16 games. Plus play at the level he did the first half of last year. The fact that he's already hurt concerns me.[/quote]

Yeah if he can play like he did the first half of last season we're golden. Hopefully his lack of playing time this preseason was just a precaution and the rest helped him completely heal. We need him to play well.

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[quote=SmootSmack;586571]Clayton's one of our biggest advocates here...I hope to meet him some day and thank him[/quote]

I've always liked Clayton. If you get the chance let him know that Redskin fans appreciate him. :food-smil

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[quote=irish;586569]I saw John Clayton on ESPN and he said the Skins were his sleeper team. He said with their easy schedule its not out of the realm of possibility that the Skins could win 11.[/quote]


ya think?If the Skins don't start off at least at 4-1.........you are screwd.

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[quote=Giantone;586583]ya think?If the Skins don't start off at least at 4-1.........you are screwd.[/quote]

What happens when we start 5-0?

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[quote=Giantone;586583]ya think?If the Skins don't start off at least at 4-1.........you are screwd.[/quote]

Looking at your schedule, you could say the same thing about the Giants.

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OK, the perennial Reskins hater, our WVA budy, has made s urprise statement. Is he rinking Danny's Kool-Aid of driking thatstuf he finds on the stump?

see: Rams release Chris Draft
Posted by Josh Alper on September 10, 2009 5:18 PM ET
Less than 72 hours before kicking off the 2009 season, the St. Louis Rams have dropped the guy expected to be their starting strongside linebacker.

The team released Chris Draft on Thursday after he declined to take a $380,000 pay cut, according to Jim Thomas of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Draft was set to make $1.225 million this season, so the cut would have dropped him down to the veteran minimum.

Draft, 33, was the third-oldest player on the Rams roster, so the move isn't surprising after an offseason that saw many veterans sent packing in the wake of Steve Spagnuolo's hiring. The timing of it is a bit surprising, given Draft's role on the first-team defense.

They said because of the their current salary cap situation, that down the line with the incentives they needed to pay to other players they'd end up being over the cap," Draft told the Post-Dispatch. "It seems like there's other people that that could have been directed to, that (a pay cut) wouldn't have impacted that much. It's a business decision; they feel like they have to do it.

As a result of the move, 2008's Mr. Irrelevant has suddenly become very relevant. David Vorbora, the 252nd and final pick after wrapping up a college career at Idaho, will move into the starting lineup. Vorbora played in eight games, and started one, as a rookie. The team also re-signed Quinton Culbertson, who was one of the players cut last weekend when rosters dropped to 53 players.

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Westbrook shows up on injury report
Posted by Tom Curran on September 10, 2009 5:01 PM ET
Eagles running back Brian Westbrook was listed on the Philly injury report with a knee injury today, according to the twitter account of Brian Seltzer of The Stray Cats, ESPN 950 radio in Philly.

Seltzer notes that Westbrook participated fully in the Eagles practice but, like Shawn Andrews, Westbrook was not listed anywhere on the Eagles report Wednesday before showing up today.

In a pre-practice press conference, Eagles offensive coordinator Marty Morhinweg said that, "Brian is pretty healthy right now."

He added that, at this point, Westbrook might be spelled by rookie LeSean McCoy more because of wind than any nagging injury. "I have great confidence in Brian to play the whole game," said Mornhinweg. "If you get into a situation there and he's gassed just a little bit, then LeSean will play a little bit more."

The Eagles are at Carolina on Sunday

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Titans-Steelers tonight, Redskins-Steelers in February
Posted by Mike Florio on September 10, 2009 4:39 PM ET
Now that we're part of the semi-legitimate media, we need to behave like the semi-legitimate media and pretend that we know what we're talking about when it comes to predicting the teams that will make it to the postseason.

The reality is that no one knows what will happen, primarily because the only certainty is that injuries will screw up everything.

We often criticize so-called experts who base their predictions too heavily on the outcome of the prior season, so we've picked our Super Bowl teams in part by playing it safe and in part by thinking beyond the box.

Our best guess as of right now is that the Redskins and the Steelers will face off in February, and that the Steelers will win their third title in five years.

A lot of careful thought went into that. Specifically, the guys at WSSP in Milwaukee put me on the spot Wednesday morning, and so I blurted out the picks my cousin Josh had e-mailed to me the day before.

But I'll go with that. I've been saying for months that the Redskins could be the surprise team of the NFC, and the Steelers are bringing back too much talent and have too good of a coach to not be considered the favorites to return to the championship game.

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[quote=Giantone;586371][SIZE=5]Dominant I don't know about[/SIZE] but he was one if not the best avaiable but none of that was in the NFC East which has the best O lines in the league, still alot of questions about his health and fitness.[/quote]

Are you kidding me? Like seriously I would love to know... People are comparing him to Reggie White. True, my concern is his durability, but give me a break, he is ABSOLUTELY dominant. He takes double and even triple teams almost every snap. Sometimes you just have to call a spade a spade.

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profootballtalk.com has us and the steelers playing each other in the super bowl.
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/10/titans-steelers-tonight-redskins-steelers-in-february/]Titans-Steelers tonight, Redskins-Steelers in February | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

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[quote=CultBrennan59;586648]profootballtalk.com has us and the steelers playing each other in the super bowl.
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/10/titans-steelers-tonight-redskins-steelers-in-february/]Titans-Steelers tonight, Redskins-Steelers in February | ProFootballTalk.com[/url][/quote]

Well, currently we are undefeated and tied for first place. I think PFT is impressed.

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watching the ten/pit game, and thinking about our preseason - I hope we avoid dumb penalties

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;586707]watching the ten/pit game, and thinking about our preseason - I hope we avoid dumb penalties[/quote]

I hope DeAngelo Hall listens to you.

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[quote=Lotus;586691]Well, currently we are undefeated and tied for first place. I think PFT is impressed.[/quote]

LOL.......that is true!

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;586624]Are you kidding me? Like seriously I would love to know... People are comparing him to Reggie White. True, my concern is his durability,.[/quote]

Nope ........no one is comparing him to reggie,maybe you but .......nope,Played one full season (all 16) games in his career.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;586707]watching the ten/pit game, and thinking about our preseason - I hope we avoid dumb penalties[/quote]

It's one reason I won't make predictions in the begining of the year,some of these guys are in preseaon mode and some of the young ones...need to get there head into the game.

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[quote=Giantone;586790]Nope ........no one is comparing him to reggie,maybe you but .......nope,Played one full season (all 16) games in his career.[/quote]

[quote]It's hard to hold a conversation with Albert Haynesworth without thinking about labels. Troublemaker. The guy who stomped on Andre Gurode. Injury-prone. Maybe a bit of a slacker. The $100 million man. The next Reggie White or Bruce Smith.[/quote]

[url=http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/dp-s0357.fbn--redskins-hayneswaug27,0,2090555.story]Redskins' $100M man Haynesworth pursues greatness -- chicagotribune.com[/url]

[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/25/dan-daly-second-coming-of-reggie-white/]Dan Daly: Second coming of Reggie White? - Washington Times[/url]

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[quote=CultBrennan59;586648]profootballtalk.com has us and the steelers playing each other in the super bowl.
[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/10/titans-steelers-tonight-redskins-steelers-in-february/"]Titans-Steelers tonight, Redskins-Steelers in February | ProFootballTalk.com[/URL][/quote]

Here were my predictions I posted on another site early this week:
[quote]
AFC East: Patriots
AFC North: Steelers
AFC South: Colts
AFC West: Chargers
Wild Cards: Texans, Ravens

NFC East: Redskins
NFC North: Packers
NFC South: Saints
NFC West: Cards
Wild Cards: Giants, Vikings

Super Bowl: Redskins beat Steelers Yes, I said it.[/quote]

:)

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[quote=Giantone;586790]Nope ........no one is comparing him to reggie,maybe you but .......nope,Played one full season (all 16) games in his career.[/quote]

I will be happy as long as he plays 6-7 games a year!(exaggeration, but not much) Our D was good with Monty and Griff. And we have depth to cover games like Detroit KC TB etc. The only games he should play until post season are Div and Panthers.

Ok, I am not 100% serious. but if he misses the Detroit and StLouis games, I wont cry a river.

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[URL="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/11/receivers-are-united-on-kelly-promotion/"]Kelly #2 - Rogers returns - Giants CB woes[/URL]

[I]The news wasn't nearly as good for the Giants' corners. Coach Tom Coughlin ruled out starter Aaron Ross and isn't optimistic about backup Kevin Dockery. If Dockery can't play either, second-year man Terrell Thomas will start with only rookie free agent Bruce Johnson in reserve. [/I]

We need to light up the Giants secondary, I'll be very upset if they don't work their CB's with heavy doses of Moss/Kelly and the long ball.

Let's see that arm, Campbell! Light 'em up!

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;586892]I will be happy as long as he plays 6-7 games a year!(exaggeration, but not much) Our D was good with Monty and Griff. And we have depth to cover games like Detroit KC TB etc. The only games he should play until post season are Div and Panthers.

Ok, I am not 100% serious. but if he misses the Detroit and StLouis games, I wont cry a river.[/quote]

Deal ,you don't cry on those game and I won't cry if he miss's the Giants 2 games!:food-smil

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[quote=Giantone;587018]Deal ,you don't cry on those game and I won't cry if he miss's the Giants 2 games!:food-smil[/quote]

LOL well we know he will play at least 1 down this game, so I think you will cry a little.

The more press I read, both Wash and NYG, the more I expect you guys to double/triple team him at least at first. It would make sense, you certainly want to wear him down if possible. But when you do that, I believe, AC and probably Orakpo, will be having a field day in your backfield.

One thing I believe is for certain this game will set the tone for the NFC East.

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I believe we win. I hate picking a score but 23-13 soungs right.