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youth movement in washington!

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[quote=Ruhskins;815014]This guy is 340 lbs and one of the "less mobile" tackles in the league, no thanks. I'll take him as a NT though.[/quote]

He was a starting tackle for a team that won the Super Bowl two seasons ago and he's only 29. Would he be an upgrade over an oft injured Jamaal Brown? Maybe or maybe not, but he'd certainly be great for depth. All I said is he's worth a look.

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[quote=GMScud;815112]He was a starting tackle for a team that won the Super Bowl two seasons ago and he's only 29. Would he be an upgrade over an oft injured Jamaal Brown? Maybe or maybe not, but he'd certainly be great for depth. All I said is he's worth a look.[/quote]

But the Steelers offensive line has been less than stellar for some time, their scheme and Big Ben's ability to make something out of nothing often hid the lines deficiencies. Starks isn't that good and wouldn't be an upgrade over Brown, if Brown is healthy which I believe he is. Now if Starks would agree to a cheap contract as a backup, that would be one thing, but not starting tackle money.

We do have to re-sign Brown first though.

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[quote=GMScud;815112]He was a starting tackle for a team that won the Super Bowl two seasons ago and he's only 29. Would he be an upgrade over an oft injured Jamaal Brown? Maybe or maybe not, but he'd certainly be great for depth. All I said is he's worth a look.[/quote]

I'm sure he is worth the look, but I was looking at it from a scheme perspective. I was under the impression that our scheme looks for lighter and agile offensive linemen. Plus I think there are better RTs out there.

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[quote=Ruhskins;815137]I'm sure he is worth the look, but I was looking at it from a scheme perspective. I was under the impression that our scheme looks for lighter and agile offensive linemen. Plus I think there are better RTs out there.[/quote]

Agreed. Starks fits the fat boy road grader model that Pittsburgh likes.

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You guys will go after and probably get Vince Young once he's dropped by Ten Trust me on that 1

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Haynesworth trade makes sense for Pats, Redskins
Posted by Mike Florio on July 28, 2011, 9:09 AM EDT

Let’s preface this one by acknowledging that, if the Bengals had traded for Redskins defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, we’d all rolling our eyes and talking once more about how stupid the front office in Cincinnati is. But since the Patriots did it, many in the media will be predisposed to spinning the move in a way that advances the legend of Bill Belichick.

To be sure, Belichick has taken a huge risk by giving a new home to a guy who wasn’t happy with a $100 million mansion. But Belichick also won’t hesitate to put Haynesworth out on the street if Haynesworth says or does any of the things he did in Washington.

And then the media will be predisposed to spinning the move in a way that paints Belichick as a genius for dumping Haynesworth and sending a clear message to a young, impressionable team. Less than a year after the media killed Brad Childress for cutting Randy Moss less than a month after Belichick unloaded a guy who may have come in handy during that playoff game against the Jets.

For now, let’s assume Haynesworth passes his conditioning test (ass . . . you . . . me) and that he makes the team. As resident Patriots homer expert Rosenthal points out, the Pats use a 4-3 front roughly half the time. Thus, Haynesworth likely will be a part-time player, but he possibly will be in the alignment he prefers 100 percent of the time that he’s on the field.

And while there’s no way he’d be asked to play the nose tackle position in New England’s 3-4 alignment, thanks to the presence of Vince Wilfork, Belichick surely wouldn’t expect Haynesworth to be a traditional lineman-occupying presence at defensive end in that formation. That’s where Belichick’s brain becomes important. When a player doesn’t like a certain type of system, it’s because he doesn’t play as well in that system. So instead of forcing Haynesworth to eat his brussel sprouts, Belichick will find ways to let Haynesworth get the most out of his talents. Who knows? Maybe that will mean periodically lining him up on the edge in obvious passing situations and letting him maul a tackle one-on-one and chase down the quarterback.

Either way, the move can’t hurt an anemic pass rush that lost is most productive sack machine since 2009 with the decision to cut Tully Banta-Cain.

For practical purposes, Haynesworth’s $100 million contract is, in reality, a four-year, $48 million package. The Redskins have already paid the majority of that money. If Haynesworth has any pride whatsoever (the jury is still out on that one), he’ll try hard this year to redeem himself, like he did after he took a cleat to the forehead of Andre Gurode in 2006. Next year, Haynesworth necessarily will be in a contract year, like he was in 2007 and 2008.

If he plays like he did in 2007 and 2008, it could be one of the smartest moves Belichick ever made.

That said, we’re still surprised that the Patriots would welcome a guy who has had so many off-field (and on-field) problems. The Gurode assault and battery is something for which Haynesworth should have been not only suspended but also prosecuted, and his propensity for driving anything and everything as fast as he can got a kid seriously injured a couple of years ago. And while Haynesworth’s alleged treatment of a waitress at a D.C. hotel pales in comparison to the allegations against less-than-one-week Patriot Christian Peter, Haynesworth’s history could make ownership more than a little queasy.

For the Redskins, the willingness of coach Mike Shanahan to cut his losses and take what he could get makes sense. He ignored the fact that he missed his chance to get more for Haynesworth in 2010, opting instead to give the franchise the fresh start it so badly needed. Besides, like the Saints possibly shipping Reggie Bush to the Dolphins, trading Haynesworth to the Patriots is a lot better than cutting him and watching him take the Acela to Philly, the new home of former Titans defensive line coach Jim Washburn.

Of course, Haynesworth could still end up with the Eagles. And if that’s where Haynesworth wants to be, all he has to do is act a little bit in Foxboro like did last year in D.C.

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[quote=D'BOYZ;815146]You guys will go after and probably get Vince Young once he's dropped by Ten Trust me on that 1[/quote]

I really don't think anyone wants to deal with the guy. His career may be over.

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[quote=skinsfan69;815154]I really don't think anyone wants to deal with the guy. His career may be over.[/quote]


I truly don't believe his career is over the guy has shown he can win in the NFL he's a little kid very inmature but he's no Jamarcus Russell. If you ask me I see you guys going for him Just because Shanahan has proved he can deal with inmature talented QB's in the past (Clausen)

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[quote=skinsfan69;815154]I really don't think anyone wants to deal with the guy. His career may be over.[/quote]

I doubt that, he's on our radar.

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[quote=D'BOYZ;815170]I truly don't believe his career is over the guy has shown he can win in the NFL he's a little kid very inmature but he's no Jamarcus Russell. If you ask me I see you guys going for him Just because Shanahan has proved he can deal with inmature talented QB's in the past (Clausen)[/quote]

Ah yes the Shanahan-Clausen years...what was your favorite memory of that time, fellas?

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For the right price, he deserves a look, but I would not anticipate him being our starter, we have three average quarterbacks already in contention, no need for overkill, unless he can play wide receiver.

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[quote=SmootSmack;815174]Ah yes the Shanahan-Clausen years...what was your favorite memory of that time, fellas?[/quote]

They went extremely smooth, almost like they never happened.

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[quote=SmootSmack;815174]Ah yes the Shanahan-Clausen years...what was your favorite memory of that time, fellas?[/quote]

When they won that Superbowl.

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[quote=SmootSmack;815174]Ah yes the Shanahan-Clausen years...what was your favorite memory of that time, fellas?[/quote]

When we traded the pick that could have had him for an over the hill quarterback, because we knew he was bad just by working him out.

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[quote=SmootSmack;815174]Ah yes the Shanahan-Clausen years...what was your favorite memory of that time, fellas?[/quote]

When he threw those two long 4th Quarter TD's to Santana in Dallas on their Ring of Shame night.

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JLC says Clements officially released?

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[quote=SmootSmack;815174]Ah yes the Shanahan-Clausen years...what was your favorite memory of that time, fellas?[/quote]

Wasnt Shanny fired from Denver because of the recruiting violation? I sure didnt have a problem with 16 year old kid taking the field in Denver. That Clausen gotta lotta balls even though its been proven he's quite immature

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We want young we want young!!

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[quote=D'BOYZ;815170]I truly don't believe his career is over the guy has shown he can win in the NFL he's a little kid very inmature but he's no Jamarcus Russell. If you ask me I see you guys going for him Just because Shanahan has proved he can deal with inmature talented QB's in the past (Clausen)[/quote]

Ok I just saw I F-UP .... hahaha Cluter

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So it looks like Nate Clements is available. I wouldn't mind us taking a look at him.

[url=http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Nate-Clements-is-out-after-all-in-San-Francisco.html]Nate Clements is out after all in San Francisco | National Football Post[/url]

Scouting Report
Comment: Clements is a seasoned veteran who has been a starter for almost all of his previous nine years. He missed the last half of the 2009 season with a shoulder injury and finished with 35 tackles and one interception. He is a good-sized corner who has the strength to be physical at the line of scrimmage when jamming receivers. Clements has the speed and acceleration to get in the receiver's hip and trail him around the field. He has a quick hip flip to turn and run and can plant and drive with minimal excess movement in transition. He shows good route recognition and the ability to read the quarterback's eyes when in off coverage.

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[quote=D'BOYZ;815203]Ok I just saw I F-UP .... hahaha Cluter[/quote]

Swing and a miss. That's 0 for 2. I think you mean Cutler. We have had enough clutter as it is.

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Yeah. I wouldn't mind Clements either BUT I think the bidding for him is going to be pretty high. I don't think he comes cheap. He's probably in Rodgers class but without the stone hands and I don't know how he would fit Haslett's system.

If they sign him great, if not, no big thing.

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F:::: That's what happens when you try to write in 4 boards fast.

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NEWS BREAK

Redskins Reached an Agreement with former Cowboys DE stephen Bowen on a 5 year $27.5 mill deal that includes $12.5 million guarenteed.

Great deal Guys We really wanted this kid back player on the Raise

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VY going to be released this afternoon per Schefter

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[quote=redskinfan401;815250]VY going to be released this afternoon per Schefter[/quote]

And will get a call from Dan 1 second after they do

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Mebane staying in Seattle

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[quote=SmootSmack;815284]Mebane staying in Seattle[/quote]


hearing anything about adding another dlinemen? I said on another thred id like to see us add Franklin instead of C. Jenkins to go with Cofield, J. Jenkins and Bowen. Get a big NT and have depth on the line. Its a lot of money to tie up but the trench is a good place for it. Keeps legs fresh

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[quote=JoeRedskin;815235]Yeah. I wouldn't mind Clements either BUT I think the bidding for him is going to be pretty high. I don't think he comes cheap. He's probably in Rodgers class but without the stone hands and I don't know how he would fit Haslett's system.

If they sign him great, if not, no big thing.[/quote]

I doubt Clements will be expensive, the reason they are cutting him is because of money. And he may return to the 49ers for less money.

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They could be cutting him to replace him with Nnamdi.

I'd love to sign Clements.

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VY talk heating back up for WSH and Philly

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[quote=skinsfaninok;815363]VY talk heating back up for WSH and Philly[/quote]

Where are you hearing that right now?

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[quote=SmootSmack;815366]Where are you hearing that right now?[/quote]

Horny4Zorny? LOL. :laughing-

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[QUOTE]Agent Drew Rosenhaus reportedly sent a mass email to all 32 teams Wednesday night announcing the Bears were making TE Greg Olsen available for trade.[/QUOTE]
Nice...trading one of their best players. Now Olsen is saying he's mad because he wanted to play his entire career in Chicago. The Panthers are trying to put something together for him. They need TE since they just signed Jeremy Shockey.

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Bushrod stays with the Saints...

"Adam Schefter
Saints reached agreement with OT Jermon Bushrod on a two-year deal."

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Looks like the Kolb deal is coming to an end and Philly strikes again...

"John Clayton
No surprise here. Kolb goes to Ariz for DRC and a No. 2, according to sources."

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[quote=Ruhskins;815398]Looks like the Kolb deal is coming to an end and Philly strikes again...

"John Clayton
No surprise here. Kolb goes to Ariz for DRC and a No. 2, according to sources."[/quote]


Andy Reid needs to get HC/GM/Executive of the year. Fleecing us on McNabb, and turning around and fleecing Arizona with Kolb. The rich get richer. It's a good thing his play calling is suspect and his clock management is putrid.

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Brad Smith to the Bills...

"Adam Schefter
Bills reach agreement with former Jets WR Brad Smith on a 4-yr, $15 million deal."

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[quote=NC_Skins;815406]Andy Reid needs to get HC/GM/Executive of the year. Fleecing us on McNabb, and turning around and fleecing Arizona with Kolb. The rich get richer. It's a good thing his play calling is suspect and his clock management is putrid.[/quote]Thats...a long year.