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[quote=Mattyk;815972]Would we have been better off caving in to C. Jenkins' last minute demands for even more $$?[/quote]

I would have hate the seen the contract that Vinny would have thrown at him. The man bids against himself on players. Creates markets when there isn't any.

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[quote=Mattyk;815970]Read up on some of the articles about him. The Cowboys were really counting on keeping him and he was going to be taking on a bigger role this year.[/quote]

DAL was really counting on keeping him at a reasonable cost. Needless to say he was an UDRFA, he still hadn't started much or dominated to demand that type of money, compared to Cofield. Thier contracts are close if the reports are accurate, $12.5M SB with Cofield earning a higher base salary. Let's see how these guys play.

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[quote=Mattyk;815972]Would we have been better off caving in to C. Jenkins' last minute demands for even more $$?[/quote]

Honestly I wouldn't have picked either guy. C. Jenkins is injury prone and Bowen is just too un proven at 27. I would've let the rookie play and get the game experience, along with Cofield and had Carrkier and Goldston back them up at DE.

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[quote=skinsfan69;815962]why is everyone saying this? he's 27 and hasn't really done anything. good players hit their stride in year 2 or 3. don't like this one at all.[/quote]

Bowens was an UDFA and, as such, took longer to develop. But reaching your prime is reaching your prime, whether that occurs in year 3 or year 6.

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[quote=Lotus;816010]Bowens was an UDFA and, as such, took longer to develop. But reaching your prime is reaching your prime, whether that occurs in year 3 or year 6.[/quote]

Very true. There's no set pattern in which players develop. Some burst onto the scene and tear it up from the beginning, others take awhile. I just hope it works out for us.

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Admittedly I dont know about bowen but i dont discount his abilities b/c i havent heard of him or he hasnt been a starter since day one or a pro bowler.

Id rather have high motor, lets get dirty type players in the trenchs than a guy whose mindset is expecting to be a probowler with the team adjusting the scheme to fit him and max out his production.

I like the fact we seem to be going after system guys, not collecting individually talented players that make a mix matched bunch.

Good to hear Dboyz thinks its a good deal for us.

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[quote=over the mountain;816023]Admittedly I dont know about cohen but i dont discount his abilities b/c i havent heard of him or he hasnt been a starter since day one or a pro bowler.

Id rather have high motor, lets get dirty type players in the trenchs than a guy whose mindset is expecting to be a probowler with the team adjusting the scheme to fit him and max out his production.

I like the fact we seem to be going after system guys, not collecting individually talented players that make a mix matched bunch.

Good to hear Dboyz thinks its a good deal for us.[/quote]

I know nothing about Cohen either. Joe or Landon Cohen?

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dang it, you qouted me to preserve it . . . well played.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;815814]Ok I've been out all day and heard this news quickly, not really detailed. I'm just now hearing this from you about the agent asking for more.

I wouldn't budge for more money, however Jenkins is far and beyond better than Bowen. Also not only will we not get a high impact, smart, super bowl, proven Vet, who knows this defense, but he could now be going to the Cowboys...Double dagger right there.[/quote]

The Cowboys have cap problems. If they felt Bowen was out of their price range, do you really believe they'd be willing to pay Jenkins who seems to be asking for even more?

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[quote=over the mountain;816048]dang it, [B]you qouted me to preserve it [/B]. . . well played.[/quote]

I always do. :laughing2

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[quote=Longtimefan;816055]The Cowboys have cap problems. If they felt Bowen was out of their price range, do you really believe they'd be willing to pay Jenkins who seems to be asking for even more?[/quote]

I sure hope they don't pay for Jenkins, but to the same extent, how are they still in the running for Nnamdi with his huge asking price? If they are in that running, then they shouldn't have a problem with Cullens money

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[quote=CultBrennan59;816075]I sure hope they don't pay for Jenkins, but to the same extent, how are they still in the running for Nnamdi with his huge asking price? If they are in that running, then they shouldn't have a problem with Cullens money[/quote]

That's what worries me about Bowen's value. Anyone working on his game film/highlights?

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[quote=diehard;816084]That's what worries me about Bowen's value. Anyone working on his game film/highlights?[/quote]


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HAHA nicely done.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;816075]I sure hope they don't pay for Jenkins, but to the same extent, how are they still in the running for Nnamdi with his huge asking price? If they are in that running, then they shouldn't have a problem with Cullens money[/quote]

Nnamdi.....question just how serious that is.

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[quote=Longtimefan;816141]Nnamdi.....question just how serious that is.[/quote]

pretty serious the cowboys media in San Antonio is going crazy thinking the girls are going to get him.

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I feel we must have have overpaid for him considering the guy starting ahead of him for his entire career is 6 million above making half of what bowen will over their respective 5 year contracts. 19.2 mil for spears vs 27.5 mil (12.5 guaranteed) for bowen. I think he will be an asset to our team, and I hope that shanny sees something in him that his other coaches didnt, but it looks like we overpaid him quite a bit.

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[quote=diehard;816084]That's what worries me about Bowen's value. Anyone working on his game film/highlights?[/quote]

He'll take a little longer. It's not like Fletcher, Torain, Hall, or Landry where you can find there name 10 to 12 times on a game log and go off that. Coefield should be a little easier. Chester as well. Problem is my computer is on it's last legs and the only footage I can find is in high def which slows down my computer to a crawl.

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[quote=skinster;816386]I feel we must have have overpaid for him considering the guy starting ahead of him for his entire career is 6 million above making half of what bowen will over their respective 5 year contracts. 19.2 mil for spears vs 27.5 mil (12.5 guaranteed) for bowen. I think he will be an asset to our team, and I hope that shanny sees something in him that his other coaches didnt, but it looks like we overpaid him quite a bit.[/quote]

Exactly.

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Splits a double and shows good hustle, gets a strip sack

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Didn't know that Bowen recently lost a new born. Sad story. Bless him and his wife.

[url=http://www.dailyjournal.net/view/story/2b3ed5ecc8cc4e13ab6afefbcdc61196/FBN--Redskins-Bowens-Burden/]Daily Journal - New Redskins DE Stephen Bowen burdened with infant son's death, other son's fight for survival[/url]

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[quote=12thMan;821549]Didn't know that Bowen recently lost a new born. Sad story. Bless him and his wife.

[url=http://www.dailyjournal.net/view/story/2b3ed5ecc8cc4e13ab6afefbcdc61196/FBN--Redskins-Bowens-Burden/]Daily Journal - New Redskins DE Stephen Bowen burdened with infant son's death, other son's fight for survival[/url][/quote]

GOD bless him & his family.

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Yes this has got to be horribly hard on him right now. I imagine it is difficult to keep your mind on football at a time like this.

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Sorry Stephen. I'm praying for your family man.

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Life is throwing a lot of tough stuff at Bowen all at once. I feel sorry for him and wish I could help. I hope the youngun' in the hospital improves.

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[quote=12thMan;821549]Didn't know that Bowen recently lost a new born. Sad story. Bless him and his wife.

[url=http://www.dailyjournal.net/view/story/2b3ed5ecc8cc4e13ab6afefbcdc61196/FBN--Redskins-Bowens-Burden/]Daily Journal - New Redskins DE Stephen Bowen burdened with infant son's death, other son's fight for survival[/url][/quote]

Damn. I can't even act like I know what he's going through right now. I hope his other twin survives though.

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[quote=12thMan;821549]Didn't know that Bowen recently lost a new born. Sad story. Bless him and his wife.

[URL="http://www.dailyjournal.net/view/story/2b3ed5ecc8cc4e13ab6afefbcdc61196/FBN--Redskins-Bowens-Burden/"]Daily Journal - New Redskins DE Stephen Bowen burdened with infant son's death, other son's fight for survival[/URL][/quote]

Wow. That sucks. I hope his other son turns out ok.

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[quote=skinsfan69;821911]Wow. That sucks. I hope his other son turns out ok.[/quote]

Four Months early. It's hard to imagine.

He will face so many medical/developmental hurdles arriving that premature.

Hope the little one is strong like his father.

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[quote=wilsowilso;821914][B]Four Months early. [/B] It's hard to imagine.

He will face so many medical/developmental hurdles arriving that premature.

Hope the little one is strong like his father.[/quote]Wow! My niece was 10 weeks early and those first few weeks were pretty scary. I can't even imagine what 4 months early is like for a family. I wish him and his family, especially his son the very best.