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How crazy would it be to draft the guy who replaced Heath Shuler at Tennessee more than 15 years after the fact

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[quote=SmootSmack;882425]How crazy would it be to draft the guy who replaced Heath Shuler at Tennessee more than 15 years after the fact[/quote]

Great if we actually drafted him.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7543001/peyton-manning-flexible-deal-demands-sources-say]Peyton Manning flexible on deal demands, sources say - ESPN[/url]

[QUOTE]A 2010 study of 99 players with neck injuries showed that 76 percent successfully returned to the playing field. Eight quarterbacks were part of the study, including Chris Weinke and Brad Johnson.

Weinke and Manning have been in contact with each other because their cases are similar, according to Weinke, who won a Heisman Trophy and national title at Florida State a year after a neck injury that required a fusion and total nerve regeneration. [/QUOTE]

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I still would be surprised if he does sign here, but I'm 100% behind making a run at him

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[quote=SmootSmack;882454]I still would be surprised if he does sign here, but I'm 100% behind making a run at him[/quote]

Interesting how Kyle wants him and Mike doesn't. I thought I heard the opposite somewhere else.

I'd be down for Peyton if he were 100% healthy, younger, and wasn't in this bootleg offense.


SS, if, If, we get PM, what WR's would we go after?

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So let me get this straight.

Concerning PM. Mike doesn't want, but Kyle does.

Concerning RGIII. Mike wants, but Kyle doesn't.


Can these two guys ever get on the same page in regards to a QB?

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[quote=NC_Skins;882460]So let me get this straight.

Concerning PM. Mike doesn't want, but Kyle does.

Concerning RGIII. Mike wants, but Kyle doesn't.


Can these two guys ever get on the same page in regards to a QB?[/quote]

Nope, thats a father-son combo for you!

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[quote=NC_Skins;882460]So let me get this straight.

Concerning PM. Mike doesn't want, but Kyle does.

Concerning RGIII. Mike wants, but Kyle doesn't.


Can these two guys ever get on the same page in regards to a QB?[/quote]

Beautiful isn't it?

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[quote=NC_Skins;882460]So let me get this straight.

Concerning PM. Mike doesn't want, but Kyle does.

Concerning RGIII. Mike wants, but Kyle doesn't.


Can these two guys ever get on the same page in regards to a QB?[/quote]


It's pretty simple;

MS is old school and likes Vet QB's.
KS is new school and likes Rookies to train.

Bu in any reality if we are to get rid of Grossman and Beck then there are two holes to fill and it's only logical that one spot be a Vet who's serviceable and the other a Rookie to develope or start if ready.

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[quote=SBXVII;882490]It's pretty simple;

MS is old school and likes Vet QB's.
KS is new school and likes Rookies to train.

Bu in any reality if we are to get rid of Grossman and Beck then there are two holes to fill and it's only logical that one spot be a Vet who's serviceable and the other a Rookie to develope or start if ready.[/quote]

KS likes rookies but wants Peyton Manning and MS likes vets but wants Robert Griffin III? Yep that makes sense.

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[quote=NC_Skins;882460]So let me get this straight.

Concerning PM. Mike doesn't want, but Kyle does.

Concerning RGIII. Mike wants, but Kyle doesn't.


Can these two guys ever get on the same page in regards to a QB?[/quote]

I wouldn't quite put it that way. Let's put it this way. Kyle only has to really think about Manning in terms of can he be my QB for my offense. Whereas Mike has to look at the big picture, both as head coach and team president. So naturally, MS is a bit more methodical in his analysis.

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More Peyton to DC hype.

[url=http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2012/02/05/report-peyton-manning-likely-to-sign-with-washington-redskins/#.Ty9sgb_sLzc.facebook]Report: Peyton Manning Likely To Sign With Washington Redskins « CBS Philly[/url]

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[quote=Alvin Walton;882528]More Peyton to DC hype.

[url=http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2012/02/05/report-peyton-manning-likely-to-sign-with-washington-redskins/#.Ty9sgb_sLzc.facebook]Report: Peyton Manning Likely To Sign With Washington Redskins « CBS Philly[/url][/quote]

That's not more per se. Just another link to Eskin again

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Now that eli won 2 sb, peyton would like to play again and aim to win one. redskins can provide him an opportunity to do that with our solid defense, we just need to shore up our OL. our WR is fine with Manning as QB

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[quote=CultBrennan59;882457]Interesting how Kyle wants him and Mike doesn't. I thought I heard the opposite somewhere else.

I'd be down for Peyton if he were 100% healthy, younger, and wasn't in this bootleg offense.


[B]SS, if, If, we get PM, what WR's would we go after[/B]?[/quote]

I just wonder if this happens if Reggie Wayne would not be on our radar. OR if PM would request we take a look at him.

Not saying this is what I think we should do if we get PM it would just be interesting to see if this shook out.

Reggie Wayne, Eddie Royal, Hankerson, and Moss. interesting WR core there.

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[quote=Mattyk;881847]When Peyton Manning's oldest brother Cooper was diagnosed with a congenital spinal condition that ended his football career in 1992, the boys' father, former NFL quarterback Archie Manning, had both Peyton and Eli Manning tested.

Neither of the quarterbacks had the condition -- spinal stenosis, a narrowing of the spinal canal that is especially dangerous for football players.

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6957652/peyton-manning-indianapolis-colts-collects-3-million-roster-bonus]Peyton Manning of Indianapolis Colts collects $3 million roster bonus - ESPN[/url][/quote]

I will acknowledge and henceforth agree to the wisdom of Mattyk in this situation. I only pause to reaffirm the fact that this was the information stated on NFL radio. I can not help if the information they relayed was incorrect. I mean look at how many of your take info from the bleacher report or J LaCa as gospel. ;) You may now continue with your regularly scheduled stoning...

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[quote=NC_Skins;881871]I say we change Matty's name (or avatar) to:


[IMG]http://www.scssoft.com/image/busdriver/busdriver_box_153.jpg[/IMG]

...because he's taking kids to school. :cool-smil[/quote]

I prefer you nickname him daddy because he PACKED MY LUNCH and took me to school.

[IMG]http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk22/waggonerrama/brown-bag-lunch.gif[/IMG]

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With our O line don't we need a QB that can scramble a little better.LOL

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I'm starting to think all of this Manning talk is a huge smoke screen to give the Skins more leverage in obtaining RGIII.

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[quote=SmootSmack;882454]I still would be surprised if he does sign here, but I'm 100% behind making a run at him[/quote]

I'd be surprised if he signed here, too. Why would he want to? There are a few reasons I don't think he would.

First, he's been playing at least half of his games every season in a dome on a much faster track than Fed Ex Field. Just ask Drew Brees how much easier that makes life as a QB in today's NFL. He'd have to play in a colder environment here, where's he constantly outdoors, on grass (not field turf) nonetheless, and the elements play a much bigger factor. Definitely something to consider, especially if he comes back with some diminished arm strength.

Secondly, he's in Eli's division. Last night's game hurt Peyton's chances of ever wearing the B&G. Would he want to go to a division where his baby brother is the top dog? With the young nucleus of talent on the Giants including a very dynamic receiving corps and studly pass-rush, they'll be a force for the next several years. Eli is fully in his prime now. He'll be a top 5 QB for the next half a decade I suspect. Peyton will be retired in half a decade. If Peyton cares about his own legacy, which I'm sure he does, he'll stay away from the NFC East.

Thirdly, Peyton wants to go somewhere where he can win quickly. No reason to think that's here. Given our overall lack of talent and the caliber of talent on the rosters of our division rivals, I don't see how Manning would be convinced he'd have a chance at glory in DC before his window as a player is closed (if it isn't already).

In summary, I'd be stunned if he wanted to play in DC.

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[quote=12thMan;882626]I'm starting to think all of this Manning talk is a huge smoke screen to give the Skins more leverage in obtaining RGIII.[/quote]

Man I hope so.

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[quote=12thMan;882626]I'm starting to think all of this Manning talk is a huge smoke screen to give the Skins more leverage in obtaining RGIII.[/quote]

I'm hoping both are smoke screens. Manning might not be ready to play due to his numbness come Sept. and I don't see the coaching staff using RGIII's skills to their fullest. We would be better served to get a QB who is a pocket style QB, who is healthy, and who does have some scrambling ablility.

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[quote=12thMan;882626]I'm starting to think all of this Manning talk is a huge smoke screen to give the Skins more leverage in obtaining RGIII.[/quote]

Perhaps. But what kind of leverage does it really give them?

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maybe instead of showing interest right off the bat and driving the asking price too damn high, act uninterested, then swoop in with a late minute deal close to the draft?

(all contingent of course on Peyton manning still being available in free agency, and linked to a couple visits via Dannys private jet......)

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[quote=GMScud;882652]I'd be surprised if he signed here, too. Why would he want to? There are a few reasons I don't think he would.

First, he's been playing at least half of his games every season in a dome on a much faster track than Fed Ex Field. Just ask Drew Brees how much easier that makes life as a QB in today's NFL. He'd have to play in a colder environment here, where's he constantly outdoors, on grass (not field turf) nonetheless, and the elements play a much bigger factor. Definitely something to consider, especially if he comes back with some diminished arm strength.

Secondly, he's in Eli's division. Last night's game hurt Peyton's chances of ever wearing the B&G. Would he want to go to a division where his baby brother is the top dog? With the young nucleus of talent on the Giants including a very dynamic receiving corps and studly pass-rush, they'll be a force for the next several years. Eli is fully in his prime now. He'll be a top 5 QB for the next half a decade I suspect. Peyton will be retired in half a decade. If Peyton cares about his own legacy, which I'm sure he does, he'll stay away from the NFC East.

Thirdly, Peyton wants to go somewhere where he can win quickly. No reason to think that's here. Given our overall lack of talent and the caliber of talent on the rosters of our division rivals, I don't see how Manning would be convinced he'd have a chance at glory in DC before his window as a player is closed (if it isn't already).

In summary, I'd be stunned if he wanted to play in DC.[/quote]

Don't go crowning the Giants the team to beat for the next 5 yrs because to much happens in football to quick for that. I bet they don't evn make the playoffs next year.

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[quote=firstdown;882704]Don't go crowning the Giants the team to beat for the next 5 yrs because to much happens in football to quick for that. I bet they don't evn make the playoffs next year.[/quote]

I didn't say team to beat. I said a force. You know they're not even the early favorite to win the NFC next season? Today Vegas gave better odds to GB and Philly. The Giants are a mere 20-1 to repeat as NFC champs.

That said, they got to the Super Bowl despite a rash of season ending injuries. They'll be better on paper at the start of next season's training camp than they are right now.

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[quote=GMScud;882652]
Thirdly, Peyton wants to go somewhere where he can win quickly. No reason to think that's here. Given our overall lack of talent and the caliber of talent on the rosters of our division rivals, I don't see how Manning would be convinced he'd have a chance at glory in DC before his window as a player is closed (if it isn't already).

In summary, I'd be stunned if he wanted to play in DC.[/quote]


He does'nt want to play here and lets remember money is not a factor for Peyton ,he won't play for free but as you said he'll go to where he can win the fastest and ...2)Does anyone out there really beleive the the Shannahans will give up control of the Offese to him....ahhhh no.

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[quote=firstdown;882704]Don't go crowning the Giants the team to beat for the next 5 yrs because to much happens in football to quick for that. I bet they don't evn make the playoffs next year.[/quote]

How much are you betting becuase after the last Redskin game Vegas had the Giants at 100- 1 to win the super bowl,how did that work out for them?I agree anything can happen ...just sometimes it takes ..like 20 years.

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[quote=Giantone;882717]How much are you betting becuase after the last Redskin game Vegas had the Giants at 100- 1 to win the super bowl,how did that work out for them?I agree anything can happen ..[B].just sometimes it takes ..like 20 years.[/B][/quote]

Good for you for winning the Super Bowl. Congrats.

How's about if you're gonna come on the site the day after, you win with some class, mmmkay?

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[quote=GMScud;882718]Good for you for winning the Super Bowl. Congrats.

How's about if you're gonna come on the site the day after, you win with some class, mmmkay?[/quote]

I've done nothing but .

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[quote=Giantone;882720]I've done nothing but .[/quote]

Rubbing 20 years in our face is classy? Sure.

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[quote=GMScud;882726]Rubbing 20 years in our face is classy? Sure.[/quote]

I did'nt rub a thing,all I did was respond to firstdowns post.Did'nt know you were touchy on the subject.

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I've always wondered something. Do you also post on a Giants message board?

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[quote=SmootSmack;882765]I've always wondered something. Do you also post on a Giants message board?[/quote]


A few, and a Eagels,Jets......and another Redskins one.

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[quote=Giantone;882774]A few, and a Eagels,Jets......and another Redskins one.[/quote]

Please tell me it's not Extremeskins. If I had a choice to post at a Giants forum or Extremeskins, I'd pick the Giants forums.

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LOL...oh HELL NO!!!

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[quote=firstdown;882704]Don't go crowning the Giants the team to beat for the next 5 yrs because to much happens in football to quick for that. I bet they don't evn make the playoffs next year.[/quote]

[quote=Giantone;882717]How much are you betting becuase after the last Redskin game Vegas had the Giants at 100- 1 to win the super bowl,how did that work out for them?I agree anything can happen ...just sometimes it takes ..like 20 years.[/quote]

I'm with Scud on this one.. Giantone's comment was uncalled for. Especially since FD's original post was not a shot at the Giants, but rather a valid comment in today's NFL.

Do you realize that 4 of the last 5 years, at least one of the NFC Championship game participants has failed to make the playoffs the following year? (06 Chi, 07 GB, 09 Min, 10 Chi, exception 08 Ari/Phi)

Based on this data the odds of the mighty Giants missing the playoffs next year are 40% (4/5 * 50%). Not a bad bet at all, especially if/when you find a cocky NYG fan to give you 3-1 or better... ;)

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The Giants have underperformed for the past 5-6 years. (including Super Bowl years) I gave them a pass this year due to all their injuries at the beginning, and losing out on some free agents. However, that team has had entirely too much talent on it to have performed the way they have the past few years.

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This is why we couldn't find manning last night... [IMG]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_1x1mvb2W23Q/SrgPI2sT4gI/AAAAAAAACDw/gdKJBB1_MLM/s400/peyton.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;882788]
Based on this data the odds of the mighty Giants missing the playoffs next year are 40% (4/5 * 50%). Not a bad bet at all, especially if/when you find a cocky NYG fan to give you 3-1 or better... ;)[/quote]


Small sample size, mate.

(Sorry, I couldn't resist being a Devil's Advocate. XD)